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Posted 03 November 2008 - 06:03 PM

I can't seem to find the old thread. Did a Mod finally put it out of its missery?

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To start us back up again...

I came across this passage someone posted on penny-arcades forums in a thread about legend of the seeker.

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They raced out from the long shadows of the buildings and poured around the corner. The people off at the end of the street all turned when they spotted Richard's force coming. More people--men and women from the city--surged into the street in front of the compound of buildings the soldiers had taken oup as barracks and a command post. The people looked like a scraggly lot.

"No war! No war! No war!" the people shouted as Richard led the men up the street at a dead run.
"Out of the way!" Richard yelled as he closed the distance. This was no time for subtlety or discussions: the success of their attack depended in large part on speed. "Get out of the way! This is your only warning! Get out of the way or die!"
"Stop the hate! Stop the hate!" the people chanted as they locked arms.
They had no idea how much hate was raging through Richard. He drew the Sword of Truth. The wrath of its magic didn't come out with it, but he had enough of his own. He slowed to a trot.
"Move!" Richard called as he bore down on the people.
A plump, curly-haired woman took a step out from the others. Her round face was red with anger as she screamed. "Stop the hate! No war! Stop the hate! No war!"
"Move or die!" Richard yelled as he picked up speed.
The red-faced woman shook her fleshy fist at Richard and his men, leading an angry chant. "Murderers! Murderers! Murderers!"
On his way past her, gritting his teeth as he screamed with the fury of the attack begun, Richard took a powerful swing, lopping off the woman's head and upraised arm. Strings of blood and gore splashed across the faces behind her even as some still chanted their empty words. The head and loose arm tumbled through the crowd. A man mad the mistake of reaching for Richard's weapon, and took the full weight of a charging thrust.
Men behind Richard hit the line of evil's guardians with unrestrained violence. People armed only with their hatred for moral clarity fell bloodied, terribly injured, and dead. The line of people collapsed before the merciless charge. Some of the people, screaming their contempt, used their fists to attack Richard's men. They were met with swift and deadly steel.
At the realization that their defense of the Imperial Order's brutality would actually result in consequences to themselves, the crowd began scattering in fright, screaming curses back at Richard and his men.


What the hell?

I'm guessing there's a lot of stuff leading up to this part, but having your hero cutting down unarmed civilians protesting against a war?

And Richard just chops them down without any remorse?

I say again what the hell?

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Posted 03 November 2008 - 06:42 PM

I heard it was nothing like the book. I have no desire to watch it.

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Posted 03 November 2008 - 06:50 PM

I honestly don't think even the Yearded One would agree with that. I'm guessing he has very little control over the series? Because Richard may have had raptor eyes, may have been a bit of a git, may have been all kinds of messed up, but that is completely over the top.
And yes, I believe the Goodkind thread was destroyed. Sad, that. I miss tSE#2. On bad days, I'd reread his posts and have a good chuckle.
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Posted 03 November 2008 - 07:26 PM

Here's everyone's favorite scene, the defining moment in the series if you will...

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"Hissing, hackles lifting, the chicken's head rose. Kahlan pulled back. Its claws digging into stiff dead flesh, the chicken slowly turned to face her. It cocked its head, making its comb flop, its wattles sway. "Shoo," Kahlan heard herself whisper. There wasn't enough light, and besides, the side of its beak was covered with gore, so she couldn't tell if it had the dark spot, But she didn't need to see it. "Dear spirits, help me," she prayed under her breath. The bird let out a slow chicken cackle. It sounded like a chicken, but in her heart she knew it wasn't. In that instant, she completely understood the concept of a chicken that was not a chicken. This looked like a chicken, like most of the Mud People's chickens. But this was no chicken. This was evil manifest."-- Soul of the Fire

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Posted 03 November 2008 - 07:28 PM

Lmao as always, fantastic... :p
I'm considering doing an evil chicken sig series now...
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Posted 03 November 2008 - 07:29 PM

Is it a picture of TG in the first post?
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Posted 03 November 2008 - 07:31 PM

Aye, it is the Yearded One himself.
Looks terrifying bald, I actually won't lie, he looks quite sinister. Anyone see the pic with the sunglasses? I wouldn't like to meet him in a dark writers workshop lol
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Posted 03 November 2008 - 07:46 PM

If ever they make a spiderman film with the vulture as a badguy I want goodkind to get the role.
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Posted 03 November 2008 - 07:49 PM

That actually made me laugh out loud lmao. God damn we should start a petition for it :p
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Posted 03 November 2008 - 07:52 PM

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Posted 03 November 2008 - 07:54 PM

What a dreadful jacket that is!
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Posted 03 November 2008 - 07:57 PM

Supermod appears with the Truth!
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Posted 03 November 2008 - 08:10 PM

Putting the Seeker out of a job...

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Posted 03 November 2008 - 08:29 PM

View PostTerez, on Nov 3 2008, 01:42 PM, said:

I heard it was nothing like the book. I have no desire to watch it.


Doesn't this mean that the show should be good?

Which is scarier, evil chicken, evil vine, or whoever that was playing Zedd. I new I couldn't watch it after seeing him and just laughing. Spectacularly awful. Good show Badkind.
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Posted 03 November 2008 - 09:48 PM

That chicken excerpt was awesome! That jacket was pure puke, if I ever wear a jacket like that, you have my permission to excise me from planet Earth. :p
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Posted 03 November 2008 - 10:34 PM

View PostLisheo, on Nov 3 2008, 11:50 AM, said:

I honestly don't think even the Yearded One would agree with that. I'm guessing he has very little control over the series? Because Richard may have had raptor eyes, may have been a bit of a git, may have been all kinds of messed up, but that is completely over the top.
And yes, I believe the Goodkind thread was destroyed. Sad, that. I miss tSE#2. On bad days, I'd reread his posts and have a good chuckle.

I think you misunderstood, that quote in Apt's opening post is not from the TV show, it's from the novels. Naked Empire, to be exact. The Yeard would indeed agree with it, since he wrote every word of it.
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Posted 03 November 2008 - 10:45 PM

Are you kidding, Mysh? Ive only read bits and pieces but he didnt seem that hungry for blood in WFR
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Posted 03 November 2008 - 11:30 PM

evil chickens abound, this shall indeed be the finist tv series ever made.
:p if the dirge ten min preview is anything to go by it seems as god awful as the book and I've yet to read a review that says otherwise.

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Posted 04 November 2008 - 01:38 AM

I was heartened to see Zed conversing with chickens in the half hour or so I watched the pilot... "Oh, chicken, you know I'd never rub my naked old-man body on your naughty bits if it did not excite you so..."
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Posted 04 November 2008 - 06:21 AM

View PostLisheo, on Nov 3 2008, 11:45 PM, said:

Are you kidding, Mysh? Ive only read bits and pieces but he didnt seem that hungry for blood in WFR


I've only read the first four books... and had eye surgery afterwards... but there's two explanations for Richards temper, that I remember.

The sword can be used in two ways, out of anger or out of love. Mostly the sword is weilded in anger. The sword is fuelled by his rage and in turn it fills him with rage amplifying his emotions.

Second, Richard is a selfrighteous prick. I think it was already starting in book 2 and 3 but basically, if Richard thinks he's in the right, he'll kill a little old lady if she lies to him. (I'm slightly exaggerating) Richard only seems to work in extremes. In book 2 he kills a bunch of unarmed corrupt officials because they annoy him... also he thought they had ordered the excecution of Kahlan.

But seriously, chopping down unarmed protestors? Why couldn't he just had used magic to move them or something? Silly Goodkind.
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