[Telas]

Shadow, on Nov 2 2008, 07:03 PM, said:

Liosan, on Nov 2 2008, 01:00 PM, said:

Besides which, I think wed lose without peter...
Stop trying to make us lose, just cause he's recruiting you, damnit

I don't know if you need to capture Peter or not.
Company's win condition states
Capture the big 4

OR

all the REMAINING heroes
from day 1 i took that to mean "all players with powers that AREN'T the big 4"
your bosses should be able to clarify.

By remaining heroes I thought it meant all heros still alive.

[Korvalain]

Yeah that's what i assumed but I can see how it could be read the other way. I think we do need a clarification on that.

[Telas]

Fener, on Nov 2 2008, 07:27 PM, said:

Telas, on Nov 2 2008, 06:17 PM, said:

Sylar doesn't need a power to kill you and take yours.

EDIT: This post looks stupic because I missed a whole page...

So he doesn't need a power to absorb my power?

I doubt your power continues to work once your dead. Therefore he can kick you ass, then take your power. Least, that's how I imagine it would be.

[Liosan]

Fener.
A guy with a gun could kill the haitian.

The absorbing power thing doesnt come from your death.
After you're dead, he cuts your head open and looks at your brain.
Your power aint gonna stop that.

[Liosan]

I think we need to come up with some kind of plan.

[D'riss]

Well look recruiting me prevents me from killing, but killing me gives peter the win!

Now:
Noah, The Haitian, Peter, Issac and Hiro, all want me dead and Claire to live! That gives them the win!

As for me, I need Peter and Claire dead and I doubt I can manage that with everyone knowing who I am and what I can do, not to mention I need to attack Claire 2 nights in a row to kill her, so I am fucked people.

[Liosan]

Yes. Sylars only hope of winning is by recruitment.

Gotta wonder why we're all agreeing to not kill claire, when frankly, its a minority that wants that.
Far easiest is just to kill her, and recruit sylar.

Still, since the minority want claire alive, Im happy to look for another solution.
The only such solution, seems to be recruit and kill peter, then do the same to sylar.

Why kill? So he cant leave and get his old win conds.
We cant do sylar first, as peter wins even if dead, unless we replace his win condition.

[D'riss]

Dont you get it! Recruiting does not fucking help.

Peter and I both keep our original fucking victory conditions!

All recruiting us does is prevent us from using our NAs!

[Liosan]

Shadow, if you're certain you kill sylar, why are you keeping the hit on him?
We need to recruit/kill peter first.
If you keep the kill on sylar, you force us to recruit him.
If we have to recruit him, we then have to let him loose, in order to recruit peter.
This is a large risk to claire.

Surely, couldnt you kill him tommorow night, after we recruit/kill peter, if thats the plan.

[Liosan]

Basically then, you are ssaying d'riss, that once captured, you keep your win conditions.
That means, that even if peter dies, we cant kill you, cause he keeps is condition.

But we'd have to keep you recruited, so we'd have to recruit you every night, to stop you kill claire.

Actually, that could work.

Kill peter tommorow/tonight. Recruit sylar tonight, and one other. Or, we could recruit/kill peter if he wants to win, for fairness, although it risks claire,
Lynch no one.
Re-recruit sylar+one other. Repeat until everyone else is recruited.

[Liosan]

Hoi, barghast.
Im unhappy that you are forcing me, basically, to agree.
I wont be back before the end of night.

I dont actually think, at this point, that recruiting peter is a good idea.

[Liosan]

And out of sheer stubborness, I certainly am not going to put my capture on ruse, unless you at least explain why I should.

[D'riss]

Liosan, on Nov 2 2008, 08:58 PM, said:

Basically then, you are ssaying d'riss, that once captured, you keep your win conditions.
That means, that even if peter dies, we cant kill you, cause he keeps is condition.

But we'd have to keep you recruited, so we'd have to recruit you every night, to stop you kill claire.

Actually, that could work.

Kill peter tommorow/tonight. Recruit sylar tonight, and one other. Or, we could recruit/kill peter if he wants to win, for fairness, although it risks claire,
Lynch no one.
Re-recruit sylar+one other. Repeat until everyone else is recruited.

I am a Faction Leader, if I get captured my winning conditions stay the same! The same goes for Bob and Peter.

[Liosan]

You've said.
Im considering it.
Thats why I say recruit/kill, and re-recruit. It stops you killing claire.

[D'riss]

But if you kill me before Claire dies, Peter wins.
But I can live with the whole recruit/re-recruit thing, I just really want Peter to lose Damn it!

[Liosan]

The only way I can see peter losing now, is if we kill him, or everyone not caring about claire etc, kills her, and gets recruited by company.
Killing him is possible. Claire dying is unlikely.

[D'riss]

huh? Peter only needs me dead and Claire alive, it does not matter if he dies.

[Liosan]

Yes. I know.
We kill him, and keep you alive. Or claire dies. Or he wins.

That seems how it is going.

[D'riss]

Fair enough, but you all know I am biased towards Claire dying. I do not care if Peter does or not! I just want Claire dead. That way he can not win! But his recruits can then be captured and they can win.

(I know I sound like a stuck record, but I want the Cheerleader dead and I want to see if she has any special powers that Gem has hidden from us)