[D'riss]

Well seeing as you are the only one around and I doubt this is going to change anything I might as well reveal what I know. And vig me if you want, Peter has this game in the bag anyway.

Of all the people in the Game there are 3 people I can not recruit, Claire, Peter and Bob. This is a fact damn it!

Now this is how I see it, Bob is the company head and hence the faction leader for the Company, if I can not recruit him to my side when I kill him and Peter obviously can not recruit me, by accidently saving my ass. Why should the company be able to recruit the other faction Leaders?

There thats it my cards are on the table and if all I achieve is taking Serc down with me I will be happy.

I know it might seem weak to you and I am sure Peter + co will just ignore it or try to blow the theory under the rug, but it makes logical sense to me!

[Shadow]

lol, figures... so I can't heel-smash you?
I kid, I kid

anyhow, I'm out for about 40 min. D'riss, looking forward to reasons why I should keep you alive.

EDIT: @ Haitian

Cross-post with D'riss
well you can't recruit them, but you can still kill them--killing the 2 is your victory condition after all
as for the company--well, their primary objective was to Capure Peter, you, Claire and Adam. since that's the case, I'm ASSUMING they can catch you. and your condition would change (at least temporarily, untill you escape) to theirs.


anyhow, we're in no hurry, unless Mockra logs on and just puts in an action, which is unlikely.
so, back in a bit.

This post has been edited by Shadow: 02 November 2008 - 04:48 PM

[D'riss]

Fener, on Nov 2 2008, 06:37 PM, said:

D'riss, on Nov 2 2008, 04:32 PM, said:

Actually that is what I want to test right now, as far as I can tell if someone is protected it takes me 2 nights to kill them. If I am right Serc should be dead in the morning (which means he loses with me ), if not well then its only Claire that takes me 2 ngihts to kill even if she is protected....

But that is only a theory.

I can recruit the Haitian.

But you need to realise that the company recruiting in not an ability I can absorb.

Powers dont work on me. I can be lynched that is it.

Not according to my recruiting conditions.

[D'riss]

@Fener: Abilities or night actions do not affect you?

[Fener]

D'riss, on Nov 2 2008, 04:44 PM, said:

@Fener: Abilities or night actions do not affect you?

You are bluffing mate and look stupid. Powers do not work around me - full stop.

[D'riss]

Hey I had to ask, obviously you might be the exception, but as far as me recruiting goes, the only people I can not recruit are Bob, Claire and Peter.

And my use of absorbed abilities and my kill are two distinctly different actions.

[D'riss]

Still I wish I had of gone for shadow night one!

Getting 2 kills a night would have been epic

[Fener]

D'riss, on Nov 2 2008, 04:54 PM, said:

Hey I had to ask, obviously you might be the exception, but as far as me recruiting goes, the only people I can not recruit are Bob, Claire and Peter.

And my use of absorbed abilities and my kill are two distinctly different actions.

Jog on with your bollocks.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 02 November 2008 - 04:59 PM

[D'riss]

Well your role says something and mine says something else.
Sorry for not being all knowing, but I have stated things as I know them from my role.

Edit: spelling

This post has been edited by D'riss: 02 November 2008 - 05:06 PM

[D'riss]

Anyway Fener, you are tied to Noah, which means you want Claire alive, so I know you are going to do everything and anything to discredit me!

[Liosan]

Ok, as I see it the company has two, equally risky options.

We can:

Recruit Peter, kill him next day(sorry, you would still win however) and kill sylar. This gives sylar one night to kill claire, or even more depending on his BPs.

OR.

Recruit Sylar, kill peter, kill sylar. This gives shadow one night to kill sylar, and sylar one night to kill claire.

IF in the second option, sylar kills claire, everyone else can still win.
Personally, I cant see him doing it. He doesnt have a hope of winning except the company. Why would he?

If we do option one, we have to kill peter, before sylar, because otherwise he will just leave, regain his conditions, and win.
If we do option two, sylar must be recruited, peter must be vigged, peter must be lynched, sylar must be vigged, and since he'd have no powers he would be no threat.

Personally, I am starting to be convinced that recruiting sylar is the better option.
It just seems to me that peter has more chance of winning without us than sylar does.

IF sylar DOES kill claire(which I find unlikely atm) we can just kill him, and recruit peter.

So, I'd say the only major risk of recruiting sylar, is that shadow vigs him.
The major risks of recruiting peter, are that he leaves the company and wins, or that he keeps his old win conditions.

There is also another option. Im not sure it would work.

We recruit peter. We kill sylar. We re-recruit peter. We kill peter(he keeps our win conditions, so it doesnt matter) we recruit everyone else.
Peter and sylar take up so many recruits that I dont think while they live, we can recruit anyone else.
The one we kill with our conditions, still wins, however.

The risks: I dont know if we can re-recruit someone. I dont know how long it takes for an escape. I dont know if we can recruit someone who escapes simultaneously.

We have to capture one of them. Its just a matter of which. Whoever we capture must be killed, while they still keep our win conditions.

If ive messed up anywhere etc, tell me.

[D'riss]

Hope you have thought this out, but if I am killed at any point and Claire still lives and Peter gets his old conditions back, he wins!

Plain and simple, and I still doubt that capturing Peter overrides his win conditions!

[Shadow]

you know, IF sylar has no BPs, there's a third option

company has 4 recruits.
I vig Sylar, he dies.
you guys convince Nathan, to not go flying tonight
company uses 4 recruit on the "4 remaining Heroes"--Me, Hiro, Nathan, Matt

Peter recruits Ando (if he wants)

morning results:
Sylar is dead, Claire lives--Peter and Ando win
Company has all the heroes (except Peter)--Company wins
Claire is alive and company wins--Noah wins

sure, Peter also wins, but all wins are simultaneous, so it doesn't matter.
besides, not like any of you can stop me from vigging Sylar...

[D'riss]

Shadow: how does Peter recruit Ando exactly? he needs to save the bugger and no one is targeting him

[Shadow]

sigh
then Ando loses
sorry, Ando...

[Liosan]

Besides which, I think wed lose without peter...
Stop trying to make us lose, just cause he's recruiting you, damnit

[D'riss]

Oh yeah! Poor Poor Ando! Unfortunate him!

You fuckers are all laughing at me! I know it!

[Liosan]

Screw that, im recruiting ando tommorow, whether bosses like it or not.
Cause I said I would.

[Fener]

D'riss, on Nov 2 2008, 05:02 PM, said:

Anyway Fener, you are tied to Noah, which means you want Claire alive, so I know you are going to do everything and anything to discredit me!

I am only not tied to Sylar.

[Liosan]

Actually, sylar you could still win.

It depends whether recruiting you, or recruiting peter, is more risky.

The other one will have to die without conditions...