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#221 Ain't_It_Just_

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 08:34 AM

Where'd you read that?

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QUOTE (KeithF @ Jun 30 2009, 09:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

It has been proven beyond all reasonable doubt that the most powerful force on Wu is a bunch of messed-up Malazans with Moranth munitions.

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 10:46 AM

He didn't, I'm fairly sure; it's just a plot device to make it so Fiddler can use the drum again lol.

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 12:49 PM

yes you are right but its a obvius bonus vs the lighting fast KCCM aint it sumthing they cant avoid if they make a misstepp...

i want to see this world where T'lan imass kneels

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Posted 28 January 2009 - 03:34 AM

I think Nightchill will show up and be all crazy and stuff and Kallor will be like "aw hell naw" because I've been rereading MoI and I'm pretty sure Nightchill is/was an incarnation of the third elder god who cursed Kallor, Sister of The Cold Nights or something.

I would like that anyway.

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#225 Aptorian

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Posted 28 January 2009 - 04:23 AM

Nightchill was Sister of cold nights. She kept her self entertained playing human, it's what got her killed at pale, as per the curse.

She is now a part of Silverfox.

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Posted 28 January 2009 - 03:51 PM

It's true, and besides, ICE will probably pick up Silverfox's storyline in one of his books.

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#227 Seguleh 1st

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Posted 28 January 2009 - 05:04 PM

i definitely hope so, since it was an interesting line, but first SE made all that fuss about Silverfox and then she denies the Imass and we hear nothing more of her worth considering.

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Posted 28 January 2009 - 05:10 PM

Seguleh 1st, on Jan 28 2009, 11:04 AM, said:

i definitely hope so, since it was an interesting line, but first SE made all that fuss about Silverfox and then she denies the Imass and we hear nothing more of her worth considering.

She does not deny the Imas by the end of MOI. she wants to let them all return to being human but the Imas say there is still work to be done on Assail. If they survive that last war then she will return them to being "alive" since they now have a place for their souls to go to.

At least that was my take on it.
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Posted 29 January 2009 - 07:33 AM

I don't think they'll become mortal again if Silverfox releases them. I reckon they'll disappear a la LotR Oathbreakers (long sigh, fades way into the ether).

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QUOTE (KeithF @ Jun 30 2009, 09:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

It has been proven beyond all reasonable doubt that the most powerful force on Wu is a bunch of messed-up Malazans with Moranth munitions.

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Posted 29 January 2009 - 07:36 AM

Correct. Silverfox was created to offer them a dissolution, however, it were to become known that a realm existed where T'lan were able to once again become Imass if they believed in it after their death? Well, then perhaps there is the potential burgeoning of Pral's Refugium.

Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....

#231 Ain't_It_Just_

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 06:07 AM

Are there other refugiums?

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QUOTE (KeithF @ Jun 30 2009, 09:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

It has been proven beyond all reasonable doubt that the most powerful force on Wu is a bunch of messed-up Malazans with Moranth munitions.

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 08:23 AM

Ain't_It_Just_, on Jan 30 2009, 07:07 AM, said:

Are there other refugiums?

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I also think that the T'lan Imass will/can become flesh after MoI. Otherwise how did Tool become flesh?

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 08:43 AM

he is the first sword...

i want to see this world where T'lan imass kneels

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 08:55 AM

beru, on Jan 30 2009, 09:43 AM, said:

he is the first sword...

How does that explain anything?

Unless K'rull or someone did something strange, it implies that when Silverfox release them they'll become flesh.

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 09:05 AM

Aptorian, on Jan 30 2009, 03:23 AM, said:

I also think that the T'lan Imass will/can become flesh after MoI. Otherwise how did Tool become flesh?

Did this have anything to do with Silverfox? I don't remember that part. All I remember was Tool's exiting Coral with Kilava, who was already human. I think it would be one hell of a cop-out to let the T'lan become Imass again after hundreds of thousands of years. While they were oftentimes saviors (HFE), they were also extraordinarily unforgiving.

Honestly, I think they deserve dissolution. I'd be dead afraid of a reanimated group of cold-blooded killers like them.

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 09:22 AM

But that's the thing, the T'lan Imass aren't just cold blooded killers. As we see in RG Imass are extremely sensitive emotional beings who are moved easily. That is part of their extreme reaction to the Jaghuts existance.

Silverfox has the ability to release the Imass. I think she did so for Tool.

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 12:33 PM

apt it was but a folish atempt on a joke... (see the assail T'lann talking to envy in moi)

i want to see this world where T'lan imass kneels

#238 Sinisdar Toste

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 11:39 PM

hmm this mayb insanity but for some reason i always thought kilava returned tool to his flesh

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Posted 31 January 2009 - 12:09 AM

See, for some reason I also think I remember one such reference from MoI, but if she could do that stuff... and really, how could Kilava be stronger/better/more skilled than half the legion of bonecasters and Olar and Silverfox... then Silverfox wouldn't have been needed in the first place.

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Posted 31 January 2009 - 12:20 AM

well perhaps kilava was given up as a lost cause? could be she could only do this for tool, for, as toc notes, the lines of blood kinship between them are not as severed as they believe

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