[The Dude]

crap.... we are going to have to wait for dkt to make it through all the posts huh??? I can only stay up for 30 more min. then I am asleep for 6 hours. really want to hear his take..

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The Dude, on Oct 24 2008, 10:25 AM, said:

JA why don't you vote obdi then If you are so sure? Also, you state mocker is doing all the things you have seen new players do when playing inno... But you just randomly put him at the top of your because you want to look in new directions? He is doing everything a noob would do, but... you want to look in a new directions. Your #2 suspect you seem much more unsure about, yet he is #2 to a person that is playing like an inno. AND your #3 person is someone who you said might be a killer... you have thought about it... but you are going to vote for the person who, according to you has acted as new players play acting inno. Granted, I suspected Mocker for a bit... but he is very new, he could have helped hammer on day 2 but didn't. Hell, he wasn't even here on day three. Not saying you are scum but I don't like your logic for your vote.

In your favor though, and this is very meta and might be in bad taste... think I read this on the forums somewhere, so if it is I will remove it if you let me know. Clearly mocker is roled. good or bad. he is roled.

Man I need to sleep.

My point was to make a list of who my suspects would be if I didn't know who was new and who was not, i.e. if this was an alted game. I have completely ignored the new players until now, but this was an exercise to compensate for that.

I honestly would prefer to not lynch a new player today, too much gambling IMO. But if we should, it would be mocker-Baudin-Lace. I chose Mocker to see what would happen.

[Silencer]

Not necessarily. The 'real vig' may still have a kill left. I doubt that. But it's possible.
And they may also be new, in which case they would not reveal, for fear of being blamed.

As I said, in this case, JA is trusting. I am not. Hell, if JA is guilty, dkt is my second choice, Obdi my third.

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Silencer, on Oct 24 2008, 10:33 AM, said:

As I said, in this case, JA is trusting. I am not. Hell, if JA is guilty, dkt is my second choice, Obdi my third.

If I was scum, I would laugh so hard right now that I might manage to bring down dktorode with me.

[The Dude]

Bah! I think its Silencer and Baudin. Thats what my gut and my senses tell me. But dammit to hell if I don't stay in on a hand with 10, Jack unsuited sometimes just cause my gut tells me too ( I always lose that hand). Can't trust your gut right now. Gotta go with the facts. WHen is it night? If I come back in 6 hours will it still be day? (assuming no lynch)

[Silencer]

It will, as far as I know.

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Night is far, I think, at least 12 hours.

[The Dude]

allright, no one here but a dead J_Slr I am headed to bed. Hope we don't lynch before I get back. Good night.

edit: or silencer and JA are on see you tomorrow.

This post has been edited by The Dude: 24 October 2008 - 07:44 AM

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G'night Duuude

[Silencer]

Night.

[dktorode]

Obdigore, on Oct 23 2008, 11:39 PM, said:

TLDR: JA = Killer, keeping everyone confused. He cozy'ed up to DK to get him on his side, he keeps getting inno's lynched and has yet to put up a good case on any single person. He also didn't have any major confrontations until Veng and I called him out today. That is NOT inno-JA play. inno-JA plays like inno-dibs, he's an ass to get people to reply and tempers to flare to see what comes out.

I dont think he has cozy'd up to me. Its more mutual. Simply because we have been seeing things the same way for almost everything.
I will say this...the last time i remember JA to be scum. He did play in this sort of helpful manner. Especially in that mini finder game...so....but meta reasoning aside! He hasnt made any mistakes that i can see
Besides being on every train.
Maybe there IS something there after all. But i just dont see why he would fight so hard about lynching you(obdi) instead of venge.
He did give in to venge in the end, but he could have just gone the other way without making it hard on us on who to lynch. It was back and forth quite allot there at the end yesterday.

anyways...lemme catch up some more

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The Dude has a point that maybe my list in "order of scumminess" is stronger than it should be.

To summarize, it would be more:

inno: The Dude
inno or symp: Lisheo
symp or killer: Lace
killer: Mocker, Baudin.

That's if we were alted. Knowing those are new players, add "or inno" after every line. That's my problem, and the reason I stayed away from them until now. But cutting slack to new players has bitten us before

[dktorode]

The Dude, on Oct 24 2008, 09:30 AM, said:

crap.... we are going to have to wait for dkt to make it through all the posts huh??? I can only stay up for 30 more min. then I am asleep for 6 hours. really want to hear his take..

wait whats going on...?

im answering as im going but i ran across this post

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nothing urgent, don't fret

[dktorode]

Lacedaemonian, on Oct 24 2008, 01:11 AM, said:

The Dude, on Oct 23 2008, 11:51 PM, said:

Lace, what are your thoughts. I am really on the Fence about you and would like to hear some of what you have to say.

Anything I might say would be lost in the mornings posts. I lynched Morg and Veng (more or less on a whim). I distrust DK and I aint happy with how relaxed he and JA are with each other. I have no idea who Baudin is or Silencer. Obdi seems a bit highly strung but perhaps he is just exasperated by the casual gang banging of JA and DK.

I dont expect Mocker or Lisheo to be of much use tomorrow.

Basically I have no agenda and no allies going into the last day. Coolio.


Why the fuck was DK not night killed? He is talking shit?

The killers have left us with a weak ass bunch off Innocents.

Common...your better than that, surely you can see i couldnt be lying. If i was someone would have counter revealed by now. Everyone has been on right?
Gavin was on and he didnt counter ...neither did vengeance. Those are the only two who have died since my vig. I cant understand you people...pa-ra-noi-a

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Lacedaemonian, on Oct 24 2008, 01:25 AM, said:

Lisheo, on Oct 24 2008, 12:18 AM, said:

The reason DK was not killed was becausm guessing if his healer comment, I'm guessing the killers didin't want to risk taking the chance he might have survived and they wasted an nk

You bought that healer bullshit story? It was like he was writing a script for the retarded children's nativity play. Felt way too contrived for me. DK and JA's sudden friendship and absolute trust occurred long before the revelation of DK being the Vigg. Like some ace card to play at the gayest possible opportunity. I read their early postings from my mobile at work and missed huge chunks of dialogue. But they just bulldozed through the day effortlessly.

I wont even ask the healer to stand up, because the bullshit would become unbearable.

I might go with the flow in the morning or I might send the fuckers up. Who knows?? Did I say morning? I probably wont be able to post until 4pm ish. Either way my team looks ruined.

Sigh...you just dont get it do you?
I just reminded the killer that the healer was there and that im a obvious choice to get healed.
Its fuck-with-the-killers 101

Just the fact that the healer COULD heal me probably saved my bacon lastngiht.
Paranoid people are paranoid

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Lacedaemonian, on Oct 24 2008, 01:44 AM, said:

Lisheo, on Oct 24 2008, 12:27 AM, said:

Ì assumed that if there is a healer they really would guard DK. if the kilers are n00bs, i guess they may buy the same story, and if they know what they're about, they won't even bother with DK for that.

Take nothing in this game at face value. I would like to go after JA or Obdi tomorrow. Or even Lisheo or Silencer......... I still like the idea of lynching DK. This would appeal to me. If he turns up Inno, well at least we can justify it by saying he was a totally shit Vigilante. His and JA's sudden confidence today seemed unrelative to their attitudes on any other day so far.....

Badger said it best:

"The Wild Wood is pretty well populated by now; with all the usual lot, good, bad, and indifferent - I name no names. It takes all sorts to make a world."

The Wind in the Willows

Or we could just lynch you
Your play in general has been shit.
You are only still here because you are new and we did (and still are) giving you guys so many chances. Its actually getting to me.

The mere fact that no one counter claimed wipes out all your other bullshit theories.
you need to move on or your gonna be stuck with your head even further up your own ass than what it has already been this game so far.
Broaden your horizons ol chap

[dktorode]

Silencer, on Oct 24 2008, 06:10 AM, said:

Well, at least I didn't miss much of the day yet.

And I'm pleased to see you guys didn't lynch me.

Now....I think the easiest thing to do from here is lynch JA. Why? If he isn't a killer, then you're going to lynch me, and probably Obdi too, in which case the game will basically be over. If you lynch me, JA is going to basically own the game with no-one really talking about him.

One thing that's interesting, Lace said that the killers have left us with a bunch of weak inno's. This isn't true. We've technically got some of the strongest players still alive - dkt, JA, Obdi, etc.
So, what makes him think this? Because JA and dkt haven't been playing their normal, over-the-top games. Neither has Obdi...but he hasn't been quite as cruising as the other two.

The way I see it:
JA
dkt
Obdi
Lace

Therein lies the killers. And therein lies the order of the lynching. If one of those four isn't a killer...I'll eat my internet-hat.

See its things like this that get to me....where the fuck to you get me as SECOND on the list.
You are also going to refute my claim as vig? The only way you could do that is by counter revealing. That would then mean you are scum.
Bah...

This is such a scummy move, trying to discredit me when im VPI...your better than that silencer.

[Silencer]

Your position on that list is based on JA being scum.

If he isn't, you're in the clear.

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Silencer, on Oct 24 2008, 11:11 AM, said:

Your position on that list is based on JA being scum.

If he isn't, you're in the clear.

You are suggesting that you want to lynch an inno to see if dktorode is clear, despite all that happened and his reveal?

Why? Because I reminded you he was VPI?

Silencer, you HAVE to be kidding.