[mocker]

yeah im off too this boards too quiet

i'll be back online bout 7pm UK time

see ya then ppl

[Lacedaemonian]

The Dude - I would run with you on the last day. We can fire Catch 22 quotes at them all and make their lives a misery. I really can not see how we will get out of this.

"There are billions of conscientious body cells oxidating away day and night like dumb animals at their complicated job of keeping me alive and healthy, and every one is a potential traitor and foe."

[Lisheo]

The reason DK was not killed was becausm guessing if his healer comment, I'm guessing the killers didin't want to risk taking the chance he might have survived and they wasted an nk

[Lacedaemonian]

Lisheo, on Oct 24 2008, 12:18 AM, said:

The reason DK was not killed was becausm guessing if his healer comment, I'm guessing the killers didin't want to risk taking the chance he might have survived and they wasted an nk

You bought that healer bullshit story? It was like he was writing a script for the retarded children's nativity play. Felt way too contrived for me. DK and JA's sudden friendship and absolute trust occurred long before the revelation of DK being the Vigg. Like some ace card to play at the gayest possible opportunity. I read their early postings from my mobile at work and missed huge chunks of dialogue. But they just bulldozed through the day effortlessly.

I wont even ask the healer to stand up, because the bullshit would become unbearable.

I might go with the flow in the morning or I might send the fuckers up. Who knows?? Did I say morning? I probably wont be able to post until 4pm ish. Either way my team looks ruined.

[Lisheo]

Ì assumed that if there is a healer they really would guard DK. if the kilers are n00bs, i guess they may buy the same story, and if they know what they're about, they won't even bother with DK for that.

[Lacedaemonian]

Lisheo, on Oct 24 2008, 12:27 AM, said:

Ì assumed that if there is a healer they really would guard DK. if the kilers are n00bs, i guess they may buy the same story, and if they know what they're about, they won't even bother with DK for that.

Take nothing in this game at face value. I would like to go after JA or Obdi tomorrow. Or even Lisheo or Silencer......... I still like the idea of lynching DK. This would appeal to me. If he turns up Inno, well at least we can justify it by saying he was a totally shit Vigilante. His and JA's sudden confidence today seemed unrelative to their attitudes on any other day so far.....

Badger said it best:

"The Wild Wood is pretty well populated by now; with all the usual lot, good, bad, and indifferent - I name no names. It takes all sorts to make a world."

The Wind in the Willows

This post has been edited by Lacedaemonian: 23 October 2008 - 11:45 PM

[The Dude]

dkt is the closest thing we have to a confirmed innocent. There is no way he is being voted off. He guessed wrong. Tapped was a big question and probably would have been voted off anyway. He just saved us time. Anyway, that's in the past. We have a lynch to worry about.

[Giles]

Tbh the NK was blatantly obvious if you thikn about it because Gavin was the least likely to have a case made against him, and at this point the killers want to keep as many poeple in the game who can have cases against them as they can as that helps muddy the waters.
right now im very drunk and its almost 4am so i will comment more when it is a sensible hour.

[Path-Shaper]

it is day 4, 17 hours and 40 minute left

9 people still grooving to the beat: Baudin, Dktorode, Jump Around, Lacedaemonian, Lisheo, Mocker, Obdigore, Silencer, The Dude

takes 5 votes to lynch or 5 to go to night

no one has voted yet

Reminder: the only things that should be bolded in your posts are votes.

[Silencer]

Well, at least I didn't miss much of the day yet.

And I'm pleased to see you guys didn't lynch me.

Now....I think the easiest thing to do from here is lynch JA. Why? If he isn't a killer, then you're going to lynch me, and probably Obdi too, in which case the game will basically be over. If you lynch me, JA is going to basically own the game with no-one really talking about him.

One thing that's interesting, Lace said that the killers have left us with a bunch of weak inno's. This isn't true. We've technically got some of the strongest players still alive - dkt, JA, Obdi, etc.
So, what makes him think this? Because JA and dkt haven't been playing their normal, over-the-top games. Neither has Obdi...but he hasn't been quite as cruising as the other two.

The way I see it:
JA
dkt
Obdi
Lace

Therein lies the killers. And therein lies the order of the lynching. If one of those four isn't a killer...I'll eat my internet-hat.

[Path-Shaper]

16 hours left, no votes yet

I'm out for the night, your next mods should be on shortly....

[Jump Around]

Haha, precious. Obdigore puts his vote, makes a case, removes his vote. I guess he un-convinced himself.

So far he has accused me of different things. One is to railroad the whole game so far:

Obdigore, on Oct 23 2008, 06:49 PM, said:

NOW you goddamn sheep listen the fuck up. It is WIFOM heaven, but JA has been railroading all fucking game.

Then of laying low:

Obdigore, on Oct 23 2008, 07:29 PM, said:

Where has JA been days 1-3? He has been hiding, staying on the DL, and so you think he is innocent.

Bot suscpicious, I give him that, but hardly compatible


Now his actual case on me. I see different arguments he's using but on the same lame categories:

1) I was suspicious of Vengeance since the start:

Obdigore, on Oct 24 2008, 12:39 AM, said:

His first magical vote in the game, on vengeance, but he is suspicious of me as well. Laying groundwork me thinks?

Jump Around said:

T-T-T-T-T-Triple funky post!

After re-read, of the two, I find Vengeance the most suspicious.

Obdigore is focusing on me, so he's either inno and worried I'm a killer after my hate post last game, or a killer acting like this. Then, he's tried against Gem, and that's his natural hormonal unbalance.

Venge, on the other hand, has tried to lynch around when one target was failing, myself, dibs, morgoth (although, strangely, not dktorode. Hmmm....), and I don't see he has any personal reasons to do this, besides the suspicious lets-get-rid-of-the-dangerous-opposition mentioned above.

Vote Vengeance for now.

Well, I was, I mentioned it early indeed. Later he puts the blame off all the inno lynches on me, so which one is it? I focused on Vengeance, or railroaded anyone? Vengeance was the first inno kill which was my choice.

2) He mocks my analysis of the failed lynch day. He says I'm accusing everyone who were on the trains, even if the trains were on innos, or if the target ended up night killed. That's not what I said, I said I couldn't believe the lynch failed, and tried to understand why. My theory is that scum were already on their rescpective trains and swapping to get the lynch gets attention. This merges with

3) I was on all the inno lynch trains. I give it to Obdigore, he did not participate to a single lynch so far in this game. I'm not sure what his point is, I think he thinks this is a PHEONIX INN thread: pop in from time to time to spam, and everyone will love you and all is good. WTF?

So far, Obdigore either didn't put any vote, or put useless votes when time was ticking . See his lonely vote on Gavin on day 1, or him going to bed on his one-man train on Lisheo. If he does that because he thinks HE's right, then why is he not trying to get more votes, to actually have an influence on the lynch? He's telling us he KNOWS all the innos. Then when will he tell us who is killer? (Besides now where he's pissed he had to change his underwear because of me)

4) I interacted with players who gt night-killed:

Obdigore, on Oct 24 2008, 12:39 AM, said:

Then later on day 2, DIBS says this and JA responds:

Jump Around said:

Quote

(drinksinbars @ Oct 20 2008, 12:59 PM)
@ja - thats a very uncomplicated game your playing.

Uh?

Guess who died that night? Yea, DIBs did. Interesting yet?

Yeah, uuh, OK.

If there's a point of his case I didn't address properly, please tell me, I'm around and not afraid of what I did this game.

[Jump Around]

As for today:

Obdigore is a killer, I'm even more sure than yesterday. Silencer, a little less since Vengeance was inno.

If Vengeance was a symp, he could have voted Obdigore to derail Silencer's lynch, or to dissociate from him. Notice he removed his vote when they wre accumulating (even saying he wouldn't), then claimed that Obdi because "inno" in his eyes

But anyways, dktorode is right, enough slack to the noobs. If we were alted, I would have harassed them more than I did, that's for sure. So let's play a game and imagine I don't know it's their first game. Here they are, in my eyes, in order of scumminess, from least to most:

1) The Dude. New or not, he played a good game. I don't remember him saying or doing anything suspect, inno in my eyes.

2) Lisheo. Lots of posts, with content. Not "original" content, lots of agreeing or disagreeing, but at least I remember his opinions on most of what was happening, and he never hid. A few suspicious acts, like vote-hopping and refusing to finish Morgoth. (unalted game note: for his first game, if he's getting the highest post count while being a killer, he is a fucking force of evil that needs to be hunted in future games. As it stands, it reminds me of Grief's first game, he's posting a lot, having fun, enjoying the power of lynching the rest of the poor suckas )

edit: he could still be a symp, though, just getting inno lynches for his masters. That's not a difficult strategy to come up with in your first game, and explains the relaxed way he's playing and the fun he's having

3) Baudin. Strange game he played, in between being around and not. I see two cases made on him, by Vengeance and The Dude, and I like them. He might be a killer

4) Lace. He raised many hairs since the start, and that has nothing to do with being new. That's my problem with him, and the reason I voted him earlier: new or not, his game doesn't sound inno. Then again, it doesn't sound killer that I know, but then again, maybe he's a new breed. I would vote for him today happily.

5) Mocker. Well, he's playing the classical killer game, new or not: laying low, many lol posts, asking lots of questions, asking others what we should do, laying low in intense moments. All this, however, I have seen in new player playing inno, which is why I didn't raise it before. But if we are to look in new directions and look somewhere else, my choice would be him.

So, assuming Obdigore and Silencer are not scum (which is highly improbable)

vote Mocker

This post has been edited by Jump Around: 24 October 2008 - 05:25 AM

[Jump Around]

Silencer, on Oct 24 2008, 07:10 AM, said:

The way I see it:
JA
dkt
Obdi
Lace

Therein lies the killers. And therein lies the order of the lynching. If one of those four isn't a killer...I'll eat my internet-hat.

So, yesterday, there was no hint that your number 1 and 2 would be lynched, but number 3 on your killer list had quite a few votes, and you just lurked?

Missed a good chance there Silencer, or is that list just for show?

[Silencer]

Wait a second...now you find both me and Obdi likely to be scum...and you vote for Mocker?

[Silencer]

See my last post, JA. You aren't voting for one of the two people you are sure is scum, either.

What makes you so sure that I'm evil? I've been playing my usual game. You have not.

As for the Obdi thing, I was ignoring that because my computer was screwing up, and because I'm far more sure of you. I could vote for Obdi. But I'm only going to compromise at the last possible minute.

[Jump Around]

Silencer, on Oct 24 2008, 08:23 AM, said:

Wait a second...now you find both me and Obdi likely to be scum...and you vote for Mocker?

I admit the possibility I could have been wrong so far, and try something else.

That's the second day in a row you're pissed I don't vote you, what's wrong with you?

[Jump Around]

Silencer, on Oct 24 2008, 08:36 AM, said:

But I'm only going to compromise at the last possible minute.

"compromise" ? WTF?

[Silencer]

Settling for someone who I'm not sure of, is a compromise.

And I'm not pissed at you not voting for me, I'm amused that you keep going:

"I am SURE x or y is Scum...but I'll vote z"

[Jump Around]

Silencer, on Oct 24 2008, 08:36 AM, said:

What makes you so sure that I'm evil? I've been playing my usual game.

It's funny you bring this up, but you are playing the EXACT same game as Ment's psych game, and you were killer.
I would know, I was very tuned to your game, since I was your symp. It's very meta, I admit, and I can't use it for a proper case, but it is one of the reasons I have been on your back a lot this game.


As for "I think X and Y are scum and I vote Z", it's not true. I said "I think X, Y and Z are scum, and I vote Z".

Obviously, I'm wrong for one of them, unlike Obdi I have no "conviction of innocence" on anyone but dktorode (unless he's playing the game of his life)