[Vengeance]

dktorode, on Oct 22 2008, 11:06 AM, said:

still nothing???

venge must have been waiting for lace to come back to put his actions in. Frame job

[Jump Around]

Man, Lace been "posting" for 8 minutes.

Wait for it.....

[dktorode]

aaaah bugger it....im going home now.
might check in later...dont count on it though

[dktorode]

Jump Around, on Oct 22 2008, 06:11 PM, said:

Man, Lace been "posting" for 8 minutes.

Wait for it.....

oh SNAP!!!


im might actually wait for it now...

This post has been edited by dktorode: 22 October 2008 - 04:13 PM

[Lacedaemonian]

You are so dodgy, mate. You have built no case against me:

• I abused your wife
  
• You are called Vengence for a reason
  
• I abused your wife
  
• I was spamming the forum over the weekend
  
• I abused your wife.
  
• You are called Vengence for a reason.

I built a very good case on Morgoth and I still stand by it. Bloody hard building cases this early on, especially with the deaths reaping us very little information. You even said you were not going to take your vote off me. Is this the act of somebody who wants to punish somebody? Or is it the words of a man who is hiding behind behind that motive? Nobody questions your vote against me - seems to me like a good cover for a killer.

Assuming I do not die during the night...... I am glad Morgoth is dead so that I can view the situation with more objectivity. His death was always going to be useful to me in that sense. With this in mind, added to my inability to vote this afternoon, I began to think about other areas of scrutiny.

Who is the vigilante? The way I see it, anybody with a role is going to be playing the game different. I will give the vigilante role more consideration but here is my tuppence worth until later:

The Vigilante might not be somebody trigger happy in the lynch. They have their kill card and do not wholy need to help with the creation of a case/train. Not in the first few days. I honestly thought this was Dibs earlier but I am not so sure now.

[Vengeance]

We need a good rant....It seems like ages...

[Vengeance]

Lacedaemonian, on Oct 22 2008, 11:14 AM, said:

You are so dodgy, mate. You have built no case against me:

• I abused your wife
  
• You are called Vengence for a reason
  
• I abused your wife
  
• I was spamming the forum over the weekend
  
• I abused your wife.
  
• You are called Vengence for a reason.

I built a very good case on Morgoth and I still stand by it. Bloody hard building cases this early on, especially with the deaths reaping us very little information. You even said you were not going to take your vote off me. Is this the act of somebody who wants to punish somebody? Or is it the words of a man who is hiding behind behind that motive? Nobody questions your vote against me - seems to me like a good cover for a killer.

Assuming I do not die during the night...... I am glad Morgoth is dead so that I can view the situation with more objectivity. His death was always going to be useful to me in that sense. With this in mind, added to my inability to vote this afternoon, I began to think about other areas of scrutiny.

Who is the vigilante? The way I see it, anybody with a role is going to be playing the game different. I will give the vigilante role more consideration but here is my tuppence worth until later:

The Vigilante might not be somebody trigger happy in the lynch. They have their kill card and do not wholy need to help with the creation of a case/train. Not in the first few days. I honestly thought this was Dibs earlier but I am not so sure now.

That is it....Oh come on....Obviously your very good case against Morgy was based off of total bullshit....Lets see

You are a girl
I suspect you cause I can't say
You are a girl
Still can't say why I suspect you
You give me the heeby jeeb's (possibly Herpes)
My spider sense tingles when you walk into the room

Please that was a bullshit case. Why I didn't vote for him. I like voting Morgy off almost as much as I like voting for JA it makes me happy. However I never got the killer vibe from Morgy. You started the game aggressive which you are now using as a defense....I.e. No killer would be that aggressive on the first day.... Well you said that you should be tied to Morgy and guess what he came up innocent.

[Lacedaemonian]

Vengeance, on Oct 22 2008, 05:14 PM, said:

We need a good rant....It seems like ages...

Lads. I have a young family and dinner to cook etc. I usually post more at the end of the day as I can not really give too much thought to what I am writing.

Veng, do you read the forums? Morg was flapping around like a dead man last night. "My defence is I am Inno." Was all he could say. He even apologised for making such a weak as piss defence.

Your case against me is as described in my last post. I am one hundred percent certain that you are hiding behind your vote on me. If you turn out to be innocent then you are screwing our team.

[Lacedaemonian]

I will continue to play aggressive. And you are so full of shit about me not building a case on Morg. Even Morg acknowledged I had a case on him. I will get you some quotes. You still have not provided a case against me and you are lying through your teeth. Total scum - whether you are inno or not. Total scum.

[The Dude]

dktorode, on Oct 22 2008, 09:09 AM, said:

The Dude, on Oct 22 2008, 06:08 PM, said:

Here catching up. Morgoth inno.... lame. I feel stupid. I hate this game, its not good for my self confidence.

bad acting is bad

Are you talking about Airplane again... Leslie is a wonderful bad actor. I can only one day hope to act as bad as him

[Vengeance]

Lacedaemonian, on Oct 22 2008, 11:23 AM, said:

Vengeance, on Oct 22 2008, 05:14 PM, said:

We need a good rant....It seems like ages...

Lads. I have a young family and dinner to cook etc. I usually post more at the end of the day as I can not really give too much thought to what I am writing.

Veng, do you read the forums? Morg was flapping around like a dead man last night. "My defence is I am Inno." Was all he could say. He even apologised for making such a weak as piss defence.

Your case against me is as described in my last post. I am one hundred percent certain that you are hiding behind your vote on me. If you turn out to be innocent then you are screwing our team.

We will see. Is that the same 100% certain that Morgy was scum. If you turn up scum then I won't have been screwing my team. Plus JA is still alive and that is his job. However at this time I am willing to vote for any of my top 3 suspects. With you being number one. You can't try to lay this blame on me. You are the one that said that you should be held accountable for Morgy not me. The way that I look at morgys posts over the last day and he had already defended himself again and again what more was there for him to say.

Enjoy your dinner. Play with your baby have a nice night.

[Lacedaemonian]

Morgoth, on Oct 21 2008, 11:17 PM, said:

Lacedaemonian, on Oct 22 2008, 12:03 AM, said:

Morgoth, on Oct 21 2008, 10:45 PM, said:

Lacedaemonian, on Oct 21 2008, 11:34 PM, said:

EDIT: The Dude - I have built a very sound case against Morgoth. A better case than anybody else has provided against anybody else. I am sticking with Morg until anything significantly changes my view of the game. The death of Dib only adds weight to my argument. Perhaps I am being played? Either way I want to find out.

Hey, you wouldn't happen to have a link to your case, or a copy of it laying around? Seeing I've not been very much around today as a result of work, I've probably just browsed through it without really noticing. If you have it, I can try to respond

My case against you was made on Monday, mate. I too have been away from the game today. It is not that my case is brilliant - just that I can not see the merit in many other cases.

A brief version of my case:

• There was some heat on Morg on Day One. Suddenly a train against Alt, who had voted Morg. Alt is dead.
  
• There was a definite effort to get a train against me over the weekend - I was talking about and voting Morg. The train efforts seemed a little contrived, similar to the contrived vibe I was getting on the Alt train.
  
• Only Dib backed me and his words carry more weight than mine because I am considered unreadable despite my heavy teacherous effort at using bulletpoints. Ohh Dib is dead as a result of a night kill.
  
• My case was first built on my gut feelings over the weekend - the physical evidence (ie the deaths) just added substance to my feelings.
  
• You seem to obvious a killer at times, but I have not played this game before so I do not know how you all play.
  
• Gem seemed to invite a lynching yesterday. This could be for many reasons. However, I placed her in the group of suspects and stated that I thought she was a Symp. So this invitation of a lynching through quite terrible play took some attention away from who I suspect are the killers. I know she was probably vig killed - but she seemed to be seeking a lynching yesterday.
  
• I think the heat has been taken off me - for no reason. This is also could add weight to my views.
  
• Vengence is hiding behind some personal abuse line - he used it as an afront for his support for you. The derailer. Whether he is a killer though? I am not sure.
  
• I am thinking less about Tapper now. Not because of Gems death but just my gut feelings are closing that door.

Hope this helped.

Aye, thanks.

I can do little but agree that a lot points towards me. When it comes to playing style, I do not think I playing different than I normaly do, but that's hardly a piece of information that will or should clear me from suspicion. As for the heat on me day 1, I think how things shifted towards alt can be blamed almost purely on Yellow. DiBs made a case on me that -seeing it was an early day 1 case- was very weak, but not utterly insubstansial. That garnered a couple of votes. But then Yellow presented his case on me based it seemed mainly on me admitting to having sent PMs to spoilerheaven. That didn't sit right with a lot of people, so when Gavin presented the case on Alt, a several saw a way out of a somewhat uncomfortable situation. People remembered Yellow's case, not DiBs' case. I'm not saying DiBs' case had any worth. It didn't. But at least it was based on behaviour in game and not purely on meta arguments.

I still stand by the opinion that night kills almost never provide usefull information. there are exceptions, but the J_slr and DiBs kills are too WIFOM to have much value as arguments at this point.

As for why the heat was taken of you. You've begun playing the game in the way that benefits the innocents, and as such the main argument against you is moot.

... and what do you think about my Tapper case?

You came on last night asking about this and were too lazy to look back a few posts. And somebody even quoted this post in the post after your tenuous enquiry. I say tenuous because you are/were not really interested. I am a convenient bluff vote for you.

[Obdigore]

Oh oh oh, do me next Lace!

[Jump Around]

Vengeance, on Oct 22 2008, 07:31 PM, said:

If you turn up scum then I won't have been screwing my team. Plus JA is still alive and that is his job.

Oh you mofo...

For the record I am called "Weasel" because I tend to screw the team I'm not with.

[Yellow]

Gavin, on Oct 22 2008, 04:18 AM, said:

4) If you don't like it, you can fuck off.

Absolute quality. There are now four rules of mafia.

Sorry for not getting online this morning - in my drunkenness, I forgot to turn on the alarm clock I was not popular in our house this morning.

We got another inno, but I agree with dkt that it was preferable to getting no lynch. Two days in a row without lynching would have been idiotic. I will try not to cry too much for Morgy

I'm around for a little while but I think we're off out for a meal tonight, so dunno. I'll probably remain sober. Having said that, though, this morning I had zero hangover. It was bizarre. I felt... good. Better than normal, even. I should drink more often.

[Lisheo]

JA, from what I've seen you screw with every team It's a talent.

[Obdigore]

Jump Around, on Oct 22 2008, 11:35 AM, said:

Vengeance, on Oct 22 2008, 07:31 PM, said:

If you turn up scum then I won't have been screwing my team. Plus JA is still alive and that is his job.

Oh you mofo...

For the record I am called "Weasel" because I tend to screw the team I'm not with.

So you are going to screw team inno, and you screw the team you are not with?

Only one conlcusion:

DISCO-EVIL

[Lisheo]

And sorry about not posting much lately, Ive got mod duties to attend to at the mo. Shall be on more later.

[Jump Around]

Obdigore, on Oct 22 2008, 07:37 PM, said:

Jump Around, on Oct 22 2008, 11:35 AM, said:

Vengeance, on Oct 22 2008, 07:31 PM, said:

If you turn up scum then I won't have been screwing my team. Plus JA is still alive and that is his job.

Oh you mofo...

For the record I am called "Weasel" because I tend to screw the team I'm not with.

So you are going to screw team inno, and you screw the team you are not with?

Only one conlcusion:

DISCO-EVIL

DiscoWeasel does not speak to fake "disco-stus" with inappropriate avatars.

[Giles]

ok well i wont be on now until the morning got taekwondo then a mates 21st.