[Lisheo]

Tapper won't crack even if he is a killer, which I doubt. He's A ) too experienced to crack, and B ) he just doesnt strike me as a killer.

[Lacedaemonian]

mocker, on Oct 18 2008, 11:28 PM, said:

the annoyin thing about this game is that to get results, you need to piss ppl off.

i say annoyin, but i really mean beautiful!

Exactly. Their motives for voting are piss poor tbh. Nobody has scrutinized either person. They were integral in getting rid of Alt and they almost got rid of me today - and I am not out of the woods yet. I have planted a seed at least.

[Lisheo]

Keep it alive, people, if possible. its no wonder Ive got the highest post count lol

[Vengeance]

Silencer, on Oct 18 2008, 04:47 PM, said:

What he said. ^

Oh, and Vote Tapper

Lacedaemonian, on Oct 18 2008, 04:51 PM, said:

vote Tapper

Lacedaemonian, on Oct 18 2008, 05:15 PM, said:

Tapper's posting and none posting patterns coupled with the timing of her votes against both Alt and against me. Tapper and Gem appear to be in cahoots. I do not expect this vote to carry any weight but am interested in their response to it.

This is suspicious to me. Silencer comes on and lays down a vote just like Alt was doing yesterday? Doesn't give a reason. Then a couple of minutes later Lace does the same thing. 20 minutes goes by and Lace gets on and decides that he had better put some kind of reason down, cause if you add that vote to his behavior from yesterday and last night it looks suspicious. Now silencer doesn't even bother to put a reason down or to respond to a request for a reason. More suspicious behavior from Lace and now from silencer. Behavior that looks more suspicious to me then Tapper and Gem.

[Lisheo]

Silencers vote did set off alarm bells for me, I can understand Lace's vote (Tapper did vote for him earlier and perhaps he hopes to start a train in retaliation or something), but Silencer's was just random.

[Vengeance]

Lisheo, on Oct 18 2008, 06:19 PM, said:

Silencers vote did set off alarm bells for me, I can understand Lace's vote (Tapper did vote for him earlier and perhaps he hopes to start a train in retaliation or something), but Silencer's was just random.

It was the timing of the two votes that seemed to be the most suspicious...

[Lisheo]

Waiting for someone else to step first, perhaps? Still, I agree, the timing was suspicious. But if thats the case, then Silencer is still the master...

[Vengeance]

Lisheo, on Oct 18 2008, 05:35 PM, said:

Tapper won't crack even if he is a killer, which I doubt. He's A ) too experienced to crack, and B ) he just doesnt strike me as a killer.

The best killers blend in with the townies....

[Lisheo]

Ah but how likely is Topper as a killer? There's nothing even remotely connecting him to Alt or J_Slr.

[Lacedaemonian]

I had named them both earlier and saw the opportunity to stick the boot in. I dont give a monkeys if it looks suspicious. It is no more or less suspicious then the votes against me earlier and against Alt yesterday. And please dont be thinking that a 20 minute gap indicates anything - I was reading book reviews at that time and playing with my baby - and I had already made a case against them earlier.

[Vengeance]

Lisheo, on Oct 18 2008, 06:29 PM, said:

Waiting for someone else to step first, perhaps? Still, I agree, the timing was suspicious. But if thats the case, then Silencer is still the master...

Or they are both killers working in tandem....If there is one killer team then they will be able to talk to each other. There symp might only know one of them. The killers might have decided that they could try to use a WIFOM to distance themselves from each other...I.e. Why would I follow his vote so quickly if I was his partner. It is just more suspicion to lay at Lace's feet. Enough suspicion and we have a killer or a bad symp.

[Morgoth]

Ok, I just browsed the thread quickly. Am going to bed, and don't have time to respond to everything. It's good that you're not speed lynching Lace mind you, but as that puttered out, no worries.

I do however feel compelled to resond to DiBs' post.

drinksinbars, on Oct 18 2008, 01:51 PM, said:

Gavin, on Oct 17 2008, 05:57 PM, said:

Well looks to me the case on Morgoth is because he has sent a message to spoilers? If thats the case and it apparently, then thats gayer than a night out with Dibs.

Whats worse people are jumping on it. Come on people seriously we're voting people for sending messages to Spoilers? While Morgy has come across as a bit dodge still don't think its a case for voting on.

Since night is upon us soon and I need to go...
Vote Alt146

For being a little suspicious before and now just jumping on any bandwagon that looks like it might be the lynch.

J_Slr, on Oct 17 2008, 06:02 PM, said:

Vote Alt146

You (among others ) seem to be a little to lynch-happy.

Lisheo, on Oct 17 2008, 06:03 PM, said:

I agree with Gavin. While I'm only a newb to the game, reading peoples PMs in SH was always amusing, at least vote someone who shows genuine evidence of being dodgy, Im torn between voting Alt and Yellow, but atm Im keeping my vote on Yellow now, he seemed far too eager to get someone voted off this early with Alt just jumping on the bandwagon, and the only kind of player who wants someone off this early is scum.

EDIT: No screw it, I can understand Yellow, Morgy voted for him with no reason first, so...
Remove Vote

Vote Alt146

The Dude, on Oct 17 2008, 06:17 PM, said:

Something about the way Alt146 just keeps popping in and out, not saying much but watching everything seems a bit fishy. Doesn't look like we are going to get a lynch but I really don't think Morgoth is that suspicious and haven't played enough games to subscribe to the meta-reasoning on why he might be.

vote Alt146

for reasons mentioned above.

Jump Around, on Oct 17 2008, 06:31 PM, said:

Sorry, I was kicked out of the computer without warning. (Actually, there was warning, but caught in the game I didn't really pay attention. The open picture of Photoshop with Lisheo and the Bee-Gees kinda destroyed the illusion that I was doing something important )

Now I'm only passing by since the arguments of "mafia day time out" can only get you so far.

This is a CF game, and lynching is good. Of the two I prefer

remove vote
vote alt146

I agree with dktorode he played it smooth and non-conspicuous for the whole day, until, I guess, he was called up by dktorode.

Tapper, on Oct 17 2008, 06:53 PM, said:

Remove Vote
Vote alt146

We Gem, Venge, DiBs and Mocker change, he's nailed.

multiquote

this was quite a swing (i know i said i was going, but i am downloading supernatural and it has like ten mins to go) the next one on is mine but i think theres a limit.

@gavin - only noticed that comment, i wish i had killing powers you cheeky monkey i would have taken you out for that!!

There arent any real attempts at a case, now there are a few possibilities here, morgo is a killer and his symps and partner threw on alt as a scapegoat to derail the train. 2 morgo looks good for a lynch day 1 cahnces are he is good later and the killers decided to swicth it up to make him look bad. In that case gavin is the killer, but j_slr is second to vote and we know he was inno (though could have been a symp, unlikely)

Given that J_slr is framed as symp from the first train if morgo is a killer taking him out makes it look on surface that morgo is inno, as the killers are targetting the train that saved him, but i dont buy into that reasoning, its just too transparent. For that reason i am going to push my case on morgoth again from yesterday and see if a train suddenly starts somewhere else. The behaviour of the dude and morgoth still strikes me on reread as one of partnership, which would make gavin a possible killer/ symp as well.

vote morgoth

of course jslr was probably killed because of what he said to gem

Now, this just seemsto obsessive for my liking. Sure, though I do not enjoy being on the receiving end of a day one case, I understand that those cases will be limited. But we're not on day 1 anymore. We're at the very begining of what will be a very long day 2. And what is the first thing DiBs does? He votes for me again. There's nothing new to his argument, apart from the WIFOM point in regards to the night kill. In essense and in reality, he's voting on me based solely on the day 1 case. He completly ignores both trains, and every other player that is not dead and focuses solely on me. I admitt I am more than a bit biased, seeing that it's aimed at me, but this is just getting ridiculous.

And the whole thing with Gavin being the killer if I am not? How can he be so certain? Gavin didn't agree with the case on me and moved in another direction. Perhaps he did that because he's my symp. Perhaps he did it just because he disagreed? e have no information! Not to mention I do not see the logic making Gavin a killer in the first place. When people get as absolutely confident in their assumptions as does DiBs, my alarm bells start ringing. I don't think DiBs is a killer, but he acts quite like a symp right now.

that's it. I'm off to bed. See you tomorow night or monday

[Vengeance]

Lacedaemonian, on Oct 18 2008, 06:31 PM, said:

I had named them both earlier and saw the opportunity to stick the boot in. I dont give a monkeys if it looks suspicious. It is no more or less suspicious then the votes against me earlier and against Alt yesterday. And please dont be thinking that a 20 minute gap indicates anything - I was reading book reviews at that time and playing with my baby - and I had already made a case against them earlier.

How old is your baby?

[Vengeance]

Lisheo, on Oct 18 2008, 06:30 PM, said:

Ah but how likely is Topper as a killer? There's nothing even remotely connecting him to Alt or J_Slr.

If you are an experienced killer you kill to frame someone else or to WIFOM everyone but you. That is the wonderful thing about WIFOM is that it can fuck with you till you feel like checking into the place that Bent and bubba escaped from last night....

[Lisheo]

Ah, Spoiler Heaven. Where all is revealed. Well, if you gots a case against anyone for being a killer, not a symp, I'll vote.

[Lacedaemonian]

Vengeance, on Oct 19 2008, 12:36 AM, said:

How old is your baby?

Six months old. He's my first.

I think it unfair to use the time it took me to respond against me when you consider how long it has taken some people to even post on here, and their general contribution so far. Seems to me that some people are lying very low. And, like I said, I had already made a case for this earlier.

Originally I was looking at the pro Morg people: they had all been seen unleashing their butterfly knives into Alt out back of the disco. These people included - Veng, Lish, J_Slr and Morg by association. The death of J_Slr and a re-read of posts made me doubt my earlier suspicions.

I had another look at the Alt voting situation and made a mental note of how things were panning out prior to his lynching. At that very same time the same patterns of postings and votings were taking place. This now placed Tapper and Gem in the frame (with one or two others dancing in the background).

I placed my vote back on Morgoth as this seemed to have an effect the day earlier. I removed it later to see if anybody would pick up on this, which they didnt. When Silencer voted - I saw the opportunity to cause a stir and committed myself against one of my strongest suspects. Though I think she is only a Symp.

[Lisheo]

Lace: Congrats

Well its simple as this, right now we're just throwing sparks at each other, as much as I hate to say it, but once we get another lycnh/night kill we should get more info.

Although I think Gem would be too obvious. She joked about killing J_Slr, after all

[Path-Shaper]

It is day two. Weekend freeze is in effect.

16 dancers still getting down: Baudin,Dktorode, DrinksinBars, Gavin, Gem, Jump Around, Lacedaemonian, Lisheo, Mocker, Morgoth, Obdigore Silencer, Tapper, The Dude,Vengeance, Yellow,

9 votes to lynch, 8 to go to night.

1 Vote Morgoth: DiBs,
3 Votes Lacedaemonian: Vengeance, Tapper, Gem Windcaster
2 Votes Tapper: Silencer, Lacedaemonian

Players yet to vote: Baudin,Dktorode, Gavin, Jump Around, Lacedaemonian, Lisheo, Mocker, Morgoth, Obdigore, Silencer, The Dude, Yellow

Im off to bed.
Not sure when the other mods will be around.
Play nicely.

Edit:

For some reason people were missing out Baudin and Obdi in the player count. This has now been remedied.

[Lisheo]

Well, I think I shall retire for the night!

[Lacedaemonian]

Night mate.

I just had a few lines of speed and will be dancing well into tomorrow.