[Lisheo]

Yes indeed you do. You cant post here however you get to go to spoiler heaven where all things are revealed.

[Lacedaemonian]

Grief, on Oct 18 2008, 08:17 PM, said:

Upon death, a mod will private message you the password, and obviously you cannot post here.
In the spoilers you will find everyones roles, pms etc.

Cheers mate - I presumed so. I anticipate very little revelation in Spoiler Heaven. Can I ask for a vote count please? I want to go and play Pro Evo 09. Lisheo unless you have a role, I suggest you remove your vote from me.

[Lisheo]

@Lace: Why? Im confused

[The Dude]

J_Slr, on Oct 16 2008, 10:38 PM, said:

Jump Around, on Oct 17 2008, 07:27 AM, said:

T-T-T-T-T-Triple funky post!

After re-read, of the two, I find Vengeance the most suspicious.

Obdigore is focusing on me, so he's either inno and worried I'm a killer after my hate post last game, or a killer acting like this. Then, he's tried against Gem, and that's his natural hormonal unbalance.

Venge, on the other hand, has tried to lynch around when one target was failing, myself, dibs, morgoth (although, strangely, not dktorode. Hmmm....), and I don't see he has any personal reasons to do this, besides the suspicious lets-get-rid-of-the-dangerous-opposition mentioned above.

Vote Vengeance for now.

It would have been a little obvious going for DKt seeing as he only has internet at work.... But I see your point...

OK Trying to look at why J Slr might have been killed. First off, maybe just because he had very few posts and was possibly a roled inno laying low.. but there is no evidence of that so I will let it lie. In this quote he see's the logic in JA's posts (which in and of itself is probably a lynchable offense ) Dkt might see J slr as a threat down the road and decided to take him out early. I don't remember much of DKt's posts as I was asleep but If I recall correctly he seems to be laying low. (might just be internet issues though) Suspect number 1: DKt

J_Slr, on Oct 17 2008, 11:11 AM, said:

Well If I die at least you guys will know where to look....

I found this really interesting.He unintentionately insults Gem. Brings up the fact that if he dies you know where to look... This RIEKS to me of a veteran player as the FM. An inside joke among the vets if you will. Gem has had a few off handed comments about how she "wants to mod" "I want to get lynched" Throwing us off the scent? Hell hath to fury like a woman scorned. Right Gem Suspect #2 Gem or a veteran framing her as an inside joke....

J_Slr, on Oct 17 2008, 12:00 PM, said:

Lacedaemonian, on Oct 17 2008, 08:58 PM, said:

Lisheo, on Oct 17 2008, 07:57 PM, said:

Well, put your case forward and lets see if we've got something to go by...
Im new too!

Then we are both innocent.

How do you arrive at that conclusion?

Edit: Grammar

Edit2: Spelling

Here J Slr questions Lace's innocence (sp?) Possible reason for a NK. And Lace has been really really defensive today..but thats just WIFOM. Suspect #3 Lace

J_Slr, on Oct 17 2008, 11:06 PM, said:

I went back and had a look at Lace's posts and two things occurred to me.

1. Lace does not seem to be taking anything seriously. I.E. it would appear he is still just messing around

and 2. It was painful! He has been posting here as well as in other threads, so I kept seeing posts I could not remember

@Silencer: Your a mod. How hard would it be to create a search function that would allow us to search a specific thread for a specific person.

Maybe I am being dense, but so far I have only found the search thread (which only looks at what was actually posted in thread) and the "Find members posts" which is shows all posts for a member, which in Baudin's case is painful because he posts so much in "first word that comes to mind"

Back ON TOPIC:

Will be interested to see how Lace plays come day 2.

Edit: Grammar

Again he says he is going to be watching Lace...then he ends up dead. Strike 2 against Lace.

Finally Suspect #4 Venge. Not sure why, I have a funny feeling about him.Of course my last funny feeling was about Alt and he turned up inno.

I know I have 2 strikes against Lace but I really think a veteran is one of the FM's The fact he died after that crack at Gem is really suspicious.

Sorry for the long post

This post has been edited by The Dude: 18 October 2008 - 07:34 PM

[The Dude]

P.S. Happy B-day Baudin Have fun tonight

[The Dude]

Hmmm. Thinking about it, killing J Slr was the perfect way to get ppl to go after Lace...also would be a Vetran move. Bah! there just isn't enough info, everything leads to WIFOM. I know weekends are slow, but more input would be nice, I am just spinning my wheels here.

[The Dude]

kk I am out till more ppl are on, back in a few hours.

[Lacedaemonian]

It is interesting how people look into things. I was shocked when J_Slr turned out to be innocent because these posts seemed to be guiding Vengence and co in some fashion or another. My idea of things has changed as a result. It is too easy to blame those lads. There seems to be a lot of inactive people playing who could all have roles and the innos are simply bashing each other. I think Veng's reasoning needs to be looked at. It is clearly a personal issue. If you people are lynch happy then I am your man - but I fear you are just making it harder to see the real players.

[Lisheo]

I genuinely don't intend to lynch you tonight, Lace, your playing style is contributing, I find myself doubting Vengeance more and more, which is more than I can say for some of the other players. However your earlier comment confused the hell out of me? It was typical scare tactics. If I remove it and have a role, then the killers know Im a roled innocent trying to lay low, a good target for em, and if I keep it, then Im "known" to have my role. However, if Im roleless, when I remove it it still looks dodgy, so the best thing to do is keep it there until I need to take it down.

[Lacedaemonian]

I find it amazing that people seem to expect me/and others to slip up. It's not like we are strapped to a rack here. I have felt no pressure at all, not even with the mounting posts saying 'vote lacedaemonian'. I simply scoff at the illogic or ill will - whichever it is.

[Lisheo]

Well, I won't lie to you, I consider the last message, the remove your vote unless your roled, a slip up. If your a symp, it'd be a good signal for the master to take me out. If you can give me reasoning for the post, I will consider removing my vote, but right now Im keeping it where it can put pressure on you.
If I get nk though, your out of the frying pan and into in the fire

[The Dude]

Lacedaemonian, on Oct 18 2008, 12:50 PM, said:

I find it amazing that people seem to expect me/and others to slip up. It's not like we are strapped to a rack here. I have felt no pressure at all, not even with the mounting posts saying 'vote lacedaemonian'. I simply scoff at the illogic or ill will - whichever it is.

People will slip up. FM's by necesity are forced to lie. Getting people to talk gives more information, this information (even useless banter is information) can be used to point out inconsistancies (sp) And its not true "Pressure" in the sense of the word. its not like you will really die or anything. But it is assumed that you did sign up for this game to play, and play to win. They way to apply pressure in MAFIA terms is to threaten a lynch with votes. (as I understand it...this is after all my first game) This should get you talking to defend yourself, assuming you still want to play. If you are inno, your stories will check out, or at least make sense. (Unless you are JA). I would think if you really are inno, and really do want to win this game you would try to defend yourself and help the inno team, rather than just scoffing at people for being illogical or full of ill will.

[Lacedaemonian]

Team Innocent has more Roles than Team Evil.

[The Dude]

OK I am really leaving now...peace.

P.S. I find it funny that the 3 n00bs are the only ones posting.

[The Dude]

Lacedaemonian, on Oct 18 2008, 01:03 PM, said:

Team Innocent has more Roles than Team Evil.

Whats your point?

[Lisheo]

Thats true but Id rather no one know what my role is, if I have one, then team Evil know it and nk me, tbh.

[Lacedaemonian]

The Dude, on Oct 18 2008, 09:06 PM, said:

Lacedaemonian, on Oct 18 2008, 01:03 PM, said:

Team Innocent has more Roles than Team Evil.

Whats your point?

Somebody questioned my line about roles, earlier.

You are right what you are saying about pressure and helping out my team. At this moment in time I just do not know how to do that as I am just learning. I am not just new to this game but new to this forum. I am constantly browsing the FAQ and this game set up. Something tells me that no FAQ is going to clarify how to play this game though. Tis a borderline madness.

remove vote

[Lisheo]

Yeah its pretty mental, I love it.
And fair enough.
Remove my vote
You convinced me. We're all noobs here, I guess.

[Vengeance]

Lacedaemonian, on Oct 18 2008, 03:14 PM, said:

The Dude, on Oct 18 2008, 09:06 PM, said:

Lacedaemonian, on Oct 18 2008, 01:03 PM, said:

Team Innocent has more Roles than Team Evil.

Whats your point?

Somebody questioned my line about roles, earlier.

You are right what you are saying about pressure and helping out my team. At this moment in time I just do not know how to do that as I am just learning. I am not just new to this game but new to this forum. I am constantly browsing the FAQ and this game set up. Something tells me that no FAQ is going to clarify how to play this game though. Tis a borderline madness.

remove vote

That is the first step in understanding Mafia. Next is to know that everyone is is a miserable lying scum. Until you lynch them. Then they were innocent. Third is that NK are WIFOM and are always WIFOM and will always be WIFOM. Especially night 1 NKs. Fourth is that JA should be lynched on the first day if that doesn't happen....Shakes head...then if he is on your team you are as good as dead....

[Lisheo]

Quick, lets get JA!!!! Lmao