[Morgoth]

There'll be a new meeting today, now with the entire board as well as every single boss of note. However, I am somewhat above averagely stubborn, and trying to push me like this just makes me unwilling to move in the slightest. Not that I should have to. They all know I'm right, they just don't want me to be. The thing is, they can easily chose to simply ignore my recommendation. That is their prerogative. But no one is willing to take responsibility for such an act. To make a choice in regards to tax law that is against the recommendation of their one resident tax lawyer. No one would want that on the record. So they want me to change my mind, but I will not.

[Tiste Simeon]

Macros, on 13 September 2018 - 01:34 PM, said:

Make full use of the Donald Trump power handshake.
Be sure to wear your longest tie.

Remember, these are key to the art of the deal

Also yelling "FAKE NEWS" every now and then should really get them on your side!

[TheRetiredBridgeburner]

To emphasise how right you are, remind them that you have the "best ideas" and "everyone says so". See if you can throw "bigly" in too, and you're definitely on to a winner

[Morgoth]

TheRetiredBridgeburner, on 14 September 2018 - 07:54 AM, said:

To emphasise how right you are, remind them that you have the "best ideas" and "everyone says so". See if you can throw "bigly" in too, and you're definitely on to a winner

I'm being paid to decided these issues. I make the best decisions. Everyone says so. But you refuse to listen. Sad.

[Abyss]

Morgoth, on 14 September 2018 - 06:53 AM, said:

There'll be a new meeting today, now with the entire board as well as every single boss of note. However, I am somewhat above averagely stubborn, and trying to push me like this just makes me unwilling to move in the slightest. Not that I should have to. They all know I'm right, they just don't want me to be. The thing is, they can easily chose to simply ignore my recommendation. That is their prerogative. But no one is willing to take responsibility for such an act. To make a choice in regards to tax law that is against the recommendation of their one resident tax lawyer. No one would want that on the record. So they want me to change my mind, but I will not.

Excellent, you lured them all into one place. Now you can destroy them all in one fell swoop and NO ONE WILL DARE OPPOSE YOUR BENEVOLENT RULE!!!

[Andorion]

Abyss, on 14 September 2018 - 12:06 PM, said:

Morgoth, on 14 September 2018 - 06:53 AM, said:

There'll be a new meeting today, now with the entire board as well as every single boss of note. However, I am somewhat above averagely stubborn, and trying to push me like this just makes me unwilling to move in the slightest. Not that I should have to. They all know I'm right, they just don't want me to be. The thing is, they can easily chose to simply ignore my recommendation. That is their prerogative. But no one is willing to take responsibility for such an act. To make a choice in regards to tax law that is against the recommendation of their one resident tax lawyer. No one would want that on the record. So they want me to change my mind, but I will not.

Excellent, you lured them all into one place. Now you can destroy them all in one fell swoop and NO ONE WILL DARE OPPOSE YOUR BENEVOLENT RULE!!!

Ah the Red Wedding strategy.

[Macros]

PDAs

Get a fucking room, it's not even a dark corner of a bar, it's the middle of a well lit open airport bar. I'm trying to fucking work here

[Cause]

Macros, on 14 September 2018 - 12:59 PM, said:

PDAs

Get a fucking room, it's not even a dark corner of a bar, it's the middle of a well lit open airport bar. I'm trying to fucking work here

Pull out your camera and start recording. Look really into it. They will stop

[QuickTidal]

Macros, on 14 September 2018 - 12:59 PM, said:

PDAs

Get a fucking room, it's not even a dark corner of a bar, it's the middle of a well lit open airport bar. I'm trying to fucking work here

They are trying to do the reverse, though....work fucking.

LOL

Sorry, I'll see myself out.

[Puck]

So I've had it with certain people who live in the same apartment building... Someone, and I can make an educated guess as to who, has gotten into the habit of leaving their huge trash bags on the TINY landing before the stairs that lead down into the basement, where the freaking trash ACTUALLY belongs. I'm annoyed but also meh when it's only one trash bag, but upon opening the door to the basement stairs just now I almost fell over FOUR trash bags, which together more than take up the available space AND block the way to the stairs. I kicked a couple of those down the stairs and pinned an appropriately worded note to the wall. We'll see if that helps any, though I doubt it. I don't fancy getting the landlord involved, but I will if that continues, because I fancy even less being almost buried in trash when opening a door OR falling down the stairs

[Abyss]

Puck, on 14 September 2018 - 04:21 PM, said:

So I've had it with certain people who live in the same apartment building... Someone, and I can make an educated guess as to who, has gotten into the habit of leaving their huge trash bags on the TINY landing before the stairs that lead down into the basement, where the freaking trash ACTUALLY belongs. I'm annoyed but also meh when it's only one trash bag, but upon opening the door to the basement stairs just now I almost fell over FOUR trash bags, which together more than take up the available space AND block the way to the stairs. I kicked a couple of those down the stairs and pinned an appropriately worded note to the wall. We'll see if that helps any, though I doubt it. I don't fancy getting the landlord involved, but I will if that continues, because I fancy even less being almost buried in trash when opening a door OR falling down the stairs

Unleash hell.

[Cause]

Pick up the trash and carry it up to his apartment and leave it outside his door.

Escalate to breaking a window in his car an spouting the trash inside.

[Mezla PigDog]

Raymond Luxury Yacht, on 11 September 2018 - 05:50 AM, said:

My kid cried himself to sleep tonight because he doesn’t have a brother or a sister. My wife tried to talk me into having another kid when this one was one or two, I wasn’t having it. Now my son is 4, I’m having second thoughts, and we are both 39 and it might be too late. I don’t even know if I actually want to have another kid, or if I just feel guilty for not having one back then. Had a big talk with my wife. She’s moved on from the idea and has accepted that it’s nit happening, so was surprised at my hysterical outburst as I tried to process all of my emotions. I made a scene. Not a stoic manly scene either.

So now there’s a lot up in the air. My wife seems down to have another if I want to, but we need to do it NOW. I don’t know if that’s actually what I want. I just started thinking about this tonight. Of course, if I decide I don’t want to, I’m an asshole for bringing it up and making her think about it again.

It’s a tough call. My gut is that my son is so awesome I would love another kid, but honestly the whole baby thing happening again is terrifying. Plenty of reasons not to, it will be a big financial difference and lifestyle change. I can imagine myself holding a screaming infant at 4 in the morning and realizing I’ve screwed up badly. My wife has some health issues, we’ve had some marital issues.

All of that is irrelevant when I look at my son and think about how amazing he is and how much I love him. If I could have that level of emotion for ANOTHER human being, but choose not to, isn’t that a terrible decision? Sure life would change, but I don’t love everything about my life anyways. One of those things I don’t like is my job, and my wife already said that the only way this would work would be if I stay at home. I’m not mad about that.

Lots to contemplate. Sorry to dump it all on you fine people but I needed to type it out somewhere.

I don’t know what to do.

You're over thinking RLY. Firstly it's only really a question when you know you can get pregnant. Secondly if you do have another kid you will totally regret it at regular intervals - 4am or 4pm they'll be awful and you will wonder why you did it but it's the balance of regret vs not regret that counts. If you quit work then it's only for a few years and the awful grinding exhaustion stage is only for a few years too.

So if you can afford it and think on balance it will be OK then go for it.

If actually life is perfectly fine or perfectly hard enough as it is then don't bother. Your kid will understand the pro's and con's when he's older - he could have just as easily cried himself to sleep over wanting a new toy.

I think what I'm trying to say is that either way you will always wonder what the other side would have been like so to heck with it.

[Abyss]

Mezla PigDog, on 15 September 2018 - 09:36 AM, said:

Raymond Luxury Yacht, on 11 September 2018 - 05:50 AM, said:

My kid cried himself to sleep tonight because he doesn't have a brother or a sister. My wife tried to talk me into having another kid when this one was one or two, I wasn't having it. Now my son is 4, I'm having second thoughts, and we are both 39 and it might be too late. I don't even know if I actually want to have another kid, or if I just feel guilty for not having one back then. Had a big talk with my wife. She's moved on from the idea and has accepted that it's nit happening, so was surprised at my hysterical outburst as I tried to process all of my emotions. I made a scene. Not a stoic manly scene either.

So now there's a lot up in the air. My wife seems down to have another if I want to, but we need to do it NOW. I don't know if that's actually what I want. I just started thinking about this tonight. Of course, if I decide I don't want to, I'm an asshole for bringing it up and making her think about it again.

It's a tough call. My gut is that my son is so awesome I would love another kid, but honestly the whole baby thing happening again is terrifying. Plenty of reasons not to, it will be a big financial difference and lifestyle change. I can imagine myself holding a screaming infant at 4 in the morning and realizing I've screwed up badly. My wife has some health issues, we've had some marital issues.

All of that is irrelevant when I look at my son and think about how amazing he is and how much I love him. If I could have that level of emotion for ANOTHER human being, but choose not to, isn't that a terrible decision? Sure life would change, but I don't love everything about my life anyways. One of those things I don't like is my job, and my wife already said that the only way this would work would be if I stay at home. I'm not mad about that.

Lots to contemplate. Sorry to dump it all on you fine people but I needed to type it out somewhere.

I don't know what to do.

You're over thinking RLY. Firstly it's only really a question when you know you can get pregnant. Secondly if you do have another kid you will totally regret it at regular intervals - 4am or 4pm they'll be awful and you will wonder why you did it but it's the balance of regret vs not regret that counts. If you quit work then it's only for a few years and the awful grinding exhaustion stage is only for a few years too.

So if you can afford it and think on balance it will be OK then go for it.

If actually life is perfectly fine or perfectly hard enough as it is then don't bother. Your kid will understand the pro's and con's when he's older - he could have just as easily cried himself to sleep over wanting a new toy.

I think what I'm trying to say is that either way you will always wonder what the other side would have been like so to heck with it.

If damned if you do, and damned if you don’t, then dammit, you might as well.

[Mezla PigDog]

Abyss, on 15 September 2018 - 08:55 PM, said:

If damned if you do, and damned if you don’t, then dammit, you might as well.

Well you say that but all the people encouraging me to have a second child have family around to help them. It's very different for different people but I think since you will always wonder either way then there is no point worrying too much about it. NOT having another (or any) is probably the harder choice because once you have kids you have to play the day in front of you anyway and there's not much time for pondering.

Oh and messing with my groove - I have time and energy to read a book but my Kindle is out of juice.

This post has been edited by Mezla PigDog: 15 September 2018 - 09:32 PM

[Slow Ben]

When people ask me if we're going to have a 3rd kid I tell them when one of two things happens. I grow a 3rd arm, or they're free.

[amphibian]

I can send texts, but I cannot receive them. I must now go back to the horror that is phone calls until I get this fixed or a new phone.

[Andorion]

amphibian, on 16 September 2018 - 02:52 AM, said:

I can send texts, but I cannot receive them. I must now go back to the horror that is phone calls until I get this fixed or a new phone.

Could be a network issue? I had this once. It was a tower problem.

[Macros]

club dinner last night, I had a genius plan.

only take a hundred quid with me, there no card facilities at the club, when my money runs out, home.

the club were kind enough to let me start at tab at 1am, the bastards

got home about 6.30. I have no idea how much the tab is

[Slow Ben]

amphibian, on 16 September 2018 - 02:52 AM, said:

I can send texts, but I cannot receive them. I must now go back to the horror that is phone calls until I get this fixed or a new phone.

Its like your some kind of cave person