[DeadHedge]

GMG (and hopefully some advice from our resident Malaz Docs) - my son is ill yet again.

He has been ill quite literally every 8 to 11 weeks with the doctor branding it as a 'viral infection' every time. The first time (maybe the second as didn't notice a pattern at first) it was so bad that he was actually hospitalised with dehydration.

With the exception of IBS my wife is in a good bill of health, however I have IGA Nepthropathy (form of kidney disease) which affects my immune system (ironically I have been ill less than my son).

The doctors so far have done no tests other than check his throat and temperature when we take him in. Do any of the resident docs have any idea if there could be underlying medical problems?

DH

[Tiste Simeon]

 Andorion, on 22 March 2016 - 09:14 AM, said:

Shoe shopping.This trivial little thing is basically an endless source of humilation and frustration to me. I wear sizes 11-12, which are outlandish by Indian standards, so shopkeepers either stare, rudely say no, or look depressed. Even when I do get fitting shoes they are not of a model or colour I would like, but since they are the only ones available, I don't really have a choice

I know that experience wasn't good for you, but I immediately thought of this:

[Gust Hubb]

 DeadHedge, on 22 March 2016 - 10:24 AM, said:

GMG (and hopefully some advice from our resident Malaz Docs) - my son is ill yet again.

He has been ill quite literally every 8 to 11 weeks with the doctor branding it as a 'viral infection' every time. The first time (maybe the second as didn't notice a pattern at first) it was so bad that he was actually hospitalised with dehydration.

With the exception of IBS my wife is in a good bill of health, however I have IGA Nepthropathy (form of kidney disease) which affects my immune system (ironically I have been ill less than my son).

The doctors so far have done no tests other than check his throat and temperature when we take him in. Do any of the resident docs have any idea if there could be underlying medical problems?

DH

Not sure. That isn't enough info to go on.
Hopefully at the hospital they ran more tests? Depending on the kid's age, getting sick that frequently is not unusual, although dehydration is not something that should be happening to the extent of hospitalization. That is about all I can say.

If you are worried he had what you have, just ask the docs to screen for it. I think a urinalysis could be a starting point, but as it was for you, I think a definite diagnosis requires a kidney biopsy, and it doesn't sound like you have gotten to that point yet with your kid.

This post has been edited by Gust Hubb: 22 March 2016 - 12:45 PM

[Slow Ben]

 Andorion, on 22 March 2016 - 09:14 AM, said:

Shoe shopping.This trivial little thing is basically an endless source of humilation and frustration to me. I wear sizes 11-12, which are outlandish by Indian standards, so shopkeepers either stare, rudely say no, or look depressed. Even when I do get fitting shoes they are not of a model or colour I would like, but since they are the only ones available, I don't really have a choice

I feel your pain.

I wear a size 15, so i have to order everything online without being able to try them on.

It usually takes a few rounds of trying them on and sending them back before I find a pair.

[Andorion]

 Slow Ben, on 22 March 2016 - 01:10 PM, said:

 Andorion, on 22 March 2016 - 09:14 AM, said:

Shoe shopping.This trivial little thing is basically an endless source of humilation and frustration to me. I wear sizes 11-12, which are outlandish by Indian standards, so shopkeepers either stare, rudely say no, or look depressed. Even when I do get fitting shoes they are not of a model or colour I would like, but since they are the only ones available, I don't really have a choice

I feel your pain.

I wear a size 15, so i have to order everything online without being able to try them on.

It usually takes a few rounds of trying them on and sending them back before I find a pair.

I am very wary of shoe shopping online. I once ordered a size 12 pair of sandals online and they were at most a 9. At least they were cheap, my father liked them so I gave them to him instead. I have decided if I am going to order online I will order 2 sizes over.

I can't remember the last time I wore a leather shoe. Nothing fits. Its sneakers and floaters for me

[Maark Abbott]

Northern rail. You've seen it once, now piss off and leave me be you purple-bedecked knobjugglers.

[Gorefest]

Paris, now Brussels. Is this ever going to end?

What worries me as well is that there are Muslim school kids in Amsterdam and other big cities cheering. I know it is just a bit of strutting, but what does it say about our multicultural society when some of our own kids feel more sympathy for mass murderers than for innocent victims?

This post has been edited by Gorefest: 22 March 2016 - 01:49 PM

[Morgoth]

 Gorefest, on 22 March 2016 - 01:47 PM, said:

Paris, now Brussels. Is this ever going to end?

What worries me as well is that there are Muslim school kids in Amsterdam and other big cities cheering. I know it is just a bit of strutting, but what does it say about our multicultural society when some of our own kids feel more sympathy for mass murderers than for innocent victims?

Uhuh, is that like when muslims supposedly cheered on the streets following the 9/11 attacks.

[Mezla PigDog]

 DeadHedge, on 22 March 2016 - 10:24 AM, said:

GMG (and hopefully some advice from our resident Malaz Docs) - my son is ill yet again.

He has been ill quite literally every 8 to 11 weeks with the doctor branding it as a 'viral infection' every time. The first time (maybe the second as didn't notice a pattern at first) it was so bad that he was actually hospitalised with dehydration.

With the exception of IBS my wife is in a good bill of health, however I have IGA Nepthropathy (form of kidney disease) which affects my immune system (ironically I have been ill less than my son).

The doctors so far have done no tests other than check his throat and temperature when we take him in. Do any of the resident docs have any idea if there could be underlying medical problems?

DH

What country are you in DH? I think I recall you are in the UK so this is UK NHS centric advice (and for clarity I am not a medical doctor but have worked in research in the NHS) - the NHS is basically set up to cater very well to people within the normal spectrum of health problems. If you've got something weird or you want some non-routine attention then the way to get it sorted is to make a fuss until you get put in front of the right person. If your gut is telling you that your son needs some more tests then you get a GP appointment and lay your concerns on the line, Make sure you have a list of all the recurrences so that you can force the GP to sit and take a look at the longer history of the issue and either justify to you why he doesn't need more tests or refer him for tests. The doctor might be right but if so then they should be reassuring you that the chosen course of action is the right one. In the GPs defence it is not easy for them to do that in a 10min typical consultation window so you have to force them to. Some GP surgeries offer longer consultations if you ask for them. Stay in the consultation until you are happy you have been taken seriously - don't be polite and leave when your time is up, act like a pushy customer who expects a certain level of service. If that GP doesn't convince you then ask for another. Do the same thing every time your son is sick again.

On the other hand some kids do go through very sickly spells that can last a few years - there's nothing inherently wrong with the kid but they catch everything going and are wiped out by it.

[cauthon]

Bombs in the capital. Days after we were triumphant we caught one alleged terrorist.

[Gredfallan Ale]

Terror.

And still Europe won't pull together to solve its shit together.

It's depressing.

[DeadHedge]

 Mezla PigDog, on 22 March 2016 - 02:37 PM, said:

 DeadHedge, on 22 March 2016 - 10:24 AM, said:

GMG (and hopefully some advice from our resident Malaz Docs) - my son is ill yet again.

He has been ill quite literally every 8 to 11 weeks with the doctor branding it as a 'viral infection' every time. The first time (maybe the second as didn't notice a pattern at first) it was so bad that he was actually hospitalised with dehydration.

With the exception of IBS my wife is in a good bill of health, however I have IGA Nepthropathy (form of kidney disease) which affects my immune system (ironically I have been ill less than my son).

The doctors so far have done no tests other than check his throat and temperature when we take him in. Do any of the resident docs have any idea if there could be underlying medical problems?

DH

What country are you in DH? I think I recall you are in the UK so this is UK NHS centric advice (and for clarity I am not a medical doctor but have worked in research in the NHS) - the NHS is basically set up to cater very well to people within the normal spectrum of health problems. If you've got something weird or you want some non-routine attention then the way to get it sorted is to make a fuss until you get put in front of the right person. If your gut is telling you that your son needs some more tests then you get a GP appointment and lay your concerns on the line, Make sure you have a list of all the recurrences so that you can force the GP to sit and take a look at the longer history of the issue and either justify to you why he doesn't need more tests or refer him for tests. The doctor might be right but if so then they should be reassuring you that the chosen course of action is the right one. In the GPs defence it is not easy for them to do that in a 10min typical consultation window so you have to force them to. Some GP surgeries offer longer consultations if you ask for them. Stay in the consultation until you are happy you have been taken seriously - don't be polite and leave when your time is up, act like a pushy customer who expects a certain level of service. If that GP doesn't convince you then ask for another. Do the same thing every time your son is sick again.

On the other hand some kids do go through very sickly spells that can last a few years - there's nothing inherently wrong with the kid but they catch everything going and are wiped out by it.

Wont let me multi-quote on work computer but thanks GH and Mezla and yes I am in the UK.

My wife took him to his appointment this morning to yet again be fobbed off, she had to push them to even do a urine test.

Its a difficult one to describe as he is the only kid in his nursery that gets ill at this frequency and it is very regular. In fact it is so regular that being sick is routine for him as he vomits as though it is nothing now, no tears and no screams. Even I cry when I am sick like he is.

my wife checked and it was nearly 11 weeks to the day since he was last ill (thanks for FB for once), he seems to vomit for a day or 2 then he is back to normal, when it starts it is usually around early AM at a frequency of every 10 minutes, then after a few hours every 20 and usually halfway through the day it stops. It then tends to happen again all over again the next day. It was bad today as he was bringing up a little blood due to the wrenching .

The GP my wife saw today said she would get his urine tested but that was all as she simply put it down to a virus, my wife has gotten so fed up fighting and not being listened to that she is ready to give up. We have noted when he was ill now and when he is next to look for patterns in behaviour/health before it so that if it comes back again we have more evidence.

I hear what you are saying about being pushy Mezla, it seems to be the only way anything happens in our underfunded NHS these days, its all re-active and not pro-active anymore. I pushed for 6 months to be tested for kidney problems (hereditary family problem running through my mums side) but it wasn't until we saw the head of our GP I got my referral. it was the same for my wife who has IBS, crones runs in her family and we suspect she may have it but trying to get tested for it is proving a nightmare. She was tested and it came back inconclusive, however the 'attacks' she has are far worse than what IBS should give.

I'm going to see how my son is overnight and then push the NHS as far as I need to get things checked. After all who knows their child's health better than their parents?

[Gorefest]

 Gredfallan Ale, on 22 March 2016 - 03:04 PM, said:

Terror.

And still Europe won't pull together to solve its shit together.

It's depressing.

Not really sure what that statement has to do with terror. Europe is already working together when it comes to fighting terrorism. Unless you are mixing up terrorists with refugees?

The simple fact of the matter is that it is very difficult to stop a committed individual or a small group of people of blowing themselves up in a random location.

[Abyss]

 Gorefest, on 22 March 2016 - 05:19 PM, said:

 Gredfallan Ale, on 22 March 2016 - 03:04 PM, said:

Terror.

And still Europe won't pull together to solve its shit together.

It's depressing.

Not really sure what that statement has to do with terror. Europe is already working together when it comes to fighting terrorism. Unless you are mixing up terrorists with refugees?

The simple fact of the matter is that it is very difficult to stop a committed individual or a small group of people of blowing themselves up in a random location.

From the initial reports these look like backpack bombs or suicide bombers in an airport ticket line and metro station. How does any non-dictatorship stop that?

Keep them out of the country? They could be citizens.

Find them before they act? Works a (significant) percentage of the time but can never be 100%.

Get to the root of the problem and love them until they love us back? Just shut up.

[Una]

 DeadHedge, on 22 March 2016 - 03:34 PM, said:

My wife took him to his appointment this morning to yet again be fobbed off, she had to push them to even do a urine test.

Its a difficult one to describe as he is the only kid in his nursery that gets ill at this frequency and it is very regular. In fact it is so regular that being sick is routine for him as he vomits as though it is nothing now, no tears and no screams. Even I cry when I am sick like he is.

my wife checked and it was nearly 11 weeks to the day since he was last ill (thanks for FB for once), he seems to vomit for a day or 2 then he is back to normal, when it starts it is usually around early AM at a frequency of every 10 minutes, then after a few hours every 20 and usually halfway through the day it stops. It then tends to happen again all over again the next day. It was bad today as he was bringing up a little blood due to the wrenching .

The GP my wife saw today said she would get his urine tested but that was all as she simply put it down to a virus, my wife has gotten so fed up fighting and not being listened to that she is ready to give up. We have noted when he was ill now and when he is next to look for patterns in behaviour/health before it so that if it comes back again we have more evidence.

You aren't giving me enough details to know whether I would be concerned or not. You said he's in nursery, so I'm guessing he's somewhere between 2-5 years old? For a preschool aged kid, getting sick every 8-11 weeks is not unusual, but it's usually viral colds and the occasional stomach bug. I've seen studies that say they get sick an average of 8-11 times per year, which works out to almost once every month or so. But getting sick with only vomiting and nothing else would be a bit weird and I don't know if there's anything else you have noticed that would be outside of a typical viral pattern. Vomiting is tricky. The thing about vomit is that little kids vomit fairly easily. They vomit with fever. They vomit when they cry. They vomit when they cough. They vomit when they overeat. Heck, my kid vomits when he plays too hard. It tells you they are sick, but by itself it doesn't tell you where the problem is. So when you have a pukey kid, you need other clues to narrow down where to look for the problem. Does he have a cough? A change in the stools? Cries every time he pees? Different symptoms every time?

I am a GP in Canada, so I don't know how it works in the UK, but basically if I saw a set of parents this worried about it, I would offer a referral to a general pediatrician and ask, "Is there anything we are missing here? Could you rule out a couple things so we can relax?" The pediatricians don't usually give me a hard time about those kinds of referrals because they see lots of parents and know how it is. Can you ask for a pediatrician referral? Be really nice about it. Sort of a, "Yeah, I get it. It got better last time. It'll probably get better this time too. But he gets sick so often, so it's going to happen again and again, and we have all this family history of bad stuff and we are super worried. I think we'd feel better if we had someone look him over just to be sure."

I don't know about how pushy you have to be in the UK, like Mezla PigDog suggests. Here, I find you get a lot more by being nice. You have to be clear in your requests, but going into pushy and hostile mode tends to shut people down and make them want to kick you out as fast as possible instead of sitting down and helping you. I would make it obvious that you are super worried and the way things are now you are going to keep coming in for every fever and sniffle. But if you can just get the reassurance you are looking for....maybe you will feel better and not feel like you have to bring him to see the doctor every time he gets a regular virus. The GPs are overworked. They'd rather deal with you once than have you come back over and over for the same thing and that might be enough to get you the referral you want.

[Morgoth]

 Briar King, on 22 March 2016 - 06:01 PM, said:

Fuck Isis

Yeah. Fuck those cunts.

[QuickTidal]

People who refuse...flat out refuse to listen to me when I try to tell them that the regulation nutritional panel they have to put on their artwork won't fit as they've had it designed (usually art comes to be FPO for those areas and the panels need ordering). They shove back hard at me about this too...and I always have to hardline them and say "look, it's not my fault that your design house didn't use the correct sized panel to begin with".

This is literally one of the things I deal with most often. It shows me how LITTLE actual food-based corporations CARE about regulations with regards to what's on their packaging. It's SO irritating. I hit a wall with nearly every customer that is told they need to reformat their art to fit the (normally) larger Nutrition panel than was used as FPO in the design. They all throw little asinine and pointless tantrums about it. It's bizarre. It's not even the content of the panels (like % values or the like), it's the size (sidenote: Nutritional panels in the US and Canada have to be a certain size and type based on multiple factors about the product and packaging itself; if this is not followed the product is going against the regulations) of the panel having to be bigger than they like on their design.

So basically, they'd rather you ignore the actual nutritional info in favour of whatever crappy, hipster design they've come up with. We won't do this, and they don't like it.

Oh, and second sidebar info: The whole "it's this many calories for 1/4 of the package" thing? TOTALLY arbitrary and up to the company. The portion thing is done to try to hoodwink the unsuspecting (and uninformed) customer into thinking that the product is only X calories for the whole package, meanwhile its usually much more. I know this because I've seen companies change that statement to be a percentage of the package (instead of the whole package) to make it seem like less than it is. UGH.

Seriously, the BANE of my time spent working with art from outside is this.

[worry]

 Abyss, on 22 March 2016 - 05:42 PM, said:

Get to the root of the problem and love them until they love us back? Just shut up.

Don't tell me to shut up!

[worry]

I know I join QT in mourning our main man Rob Ford, R.I.P. to the OG TO jefe de la familia. Hope he gets 72 virgins and 73 burgers in Heaven.

To the haters:

[Abyss]

 Zoolanderis Derake, on 22 March 2016 - 08:15 PM, said:

 Abyss, on 22 March 2016 - 05:42 PM, said:

Get to the root of the problem and love them until they love us back? Just shut up.

Don't tell me to shut up!

Awwww ... I'm sorry. Want a hug?