[Studlock]

So Ferguson....

[worry]

Studlock, on 25 November 2014 - 04:26 AM, said:

So Ferguson....

https://twitter.com/...078619609501696

[Studlock]

worry, on 25 November 2014 - 05:28 AM, said:

Studlock, on 25 November 2014 - 04:26 AM, said:

So Ferguson....

https://twitter.com/...078619609501696

That's really just not fair. No kid should be thinking that. Fuck.

[Andorion]

Studlock, on 25 November 2014 - 05:38 AM, said:

worry, on 25 November 2014 - 05:28 AM, said:

Studlock, on 25 November 2014 - 04:26 AM, said:

So Ferguson....

https://twitter.com/...078619609501696

That's really just not fair. No kid should be thinking that. Fuck.

That is just chilling.

How exactly are these Grand Jury verdicts decided? Is it a majority vote or is it unanimous?

[EmperorMagus]

Andorion, on 25 November 2014 - 05:41 AM, said:

Studlock, on 25 November 2014 - 05:38 AM, said:

worry, on 25 November 2014 - 05:28 AM, said:

Studlock, on 25 November 2014 - 04:26 AM, said:

So Ferguson....

https://twitter.com/...078619609501696

That's really just not fair. No kid should be thinking that. Fuck.

That is just chilling.

How exactly are these Grand Jury verdicts decided? Is it a majority vote or is it unanimous?

http://www.theguardi...riminal-charges

I had the same question, this article is pretty good.
In other news, I find the verdict disgusting and as I know no amount of protest is going to do anything, I'm just sad.

Also, this I find quiet ironic.

This post has been edited by Deathbringer the Adorable: 25 November 2014 - 06:13 AM

[melonhead]

it just amazes me that eye witness accounts, and all the overwhelming evidence against the police have been completely ignored. What is wrong with the justice system.

[worry]

http://www.washingto...ing-visualized/

[Nicodimas]

This is just foreshadowing of what is coming..

When the collapse occurs..be ready, know skill-sets, band together and survive the cataclysm

Good luck.

[melonhead]

Nicodimas, on 25 November 2014 - 07:21 AM, said:

This is just foreshadowing of what is coming..

When the collapse occurs..be ready, know skill-sets, band together and survive the cataclysm

Good luck.

With any luck it will be sweet down here in little old nz. everyone will probably forget we exist.

[Tsundoku]

... and as we all know the best way to show your outrage over the perceived lack of justice is to go on a violence spree and reinforce the stereotypes that may have contributed in the long and short term leadup to the original incident.

Well, at least it wasn't just over the result of an ice hockey game.

[Nicodimas]

Actually good feeds on all the protesting <rioting> happening...in all the cities.

https://twitter.com/youranonnews


Remember as you sit here thinking. This is happening here. If you ask yourself anything tonight, please think about the question..on why?

I could make all sorts of implications, but I will refrain. Just watch the vids and ask.

This post has been edited by Nicodimas: 25 November 2014 - 07:41 AM

[Nicodimas]

I like these toys..volume up ftw

https://vine.co/v/O1XVd955Mau

[Studlock]

Sombra, on 25 November 2014 - 07:40 AM, said:

... and as we all know the best way to show your outrage over the perceived lack of justice is to go on a violence spree and reinforce the stereotypes that may have contributed in the long and short term leadup to the original incident.

Well, at least it wasn't just over the result of an ice hockey game.

Jesus fucking Christ upon the that shitty cross are you fucking kidding me with this? 'Perceived lack of justice'--yes because America doesn't have a 400 year history of murdering black humans without justice. 'Reinforce the stereotypes that may have contributed in the long and short term leadup to the original incident' because it's secretly black peoples faults they live with the systemic racist convenes of society that does not care if they live, and only feel joy when they die, who demonize their culture all the while stealing from it, who paint them as monstrous while shoot them in the street for the smallest of crimes. You realize this isn't a response to singular incident right? You realize a 12 black child and shot and killed today in Cleveland because he had a airsoft rifle right? And this isn't out of the norm? This a people who are coming to terms no matter how many years of non-violent protests (MLK was shot in the fucking 60s) the powers that be still don't give a damn about them, the system does not working for them, in fact it works against them. Why must they be better than model citizens while their country destroys them with impudent disregard for their personhood? Do I think this responses is the best response? No, but you don't get to fucking sit there so fucking far removed from their struggles and make a senseless racist joke and question their intentions you racist fuck.

Burn the fucking fields humanity is lost.

[worry]

[melonhead]

Sombra, on 25 November 2014 - 07:40 AM, said:

... and as we all know the best way to show your outrage over the perceived lack of justice is to go on a violence spree and reinforce the stereotypes that may have contributed in the long and short term leadup to the original incident.

Well, at least it wasn't just over the result of an ice hockey game.

How in the hell can you call this situation a "perceived lack of justice"? Thats bullshit. They are getting fucked over because they are coloured people. That is not a perceived lack of justice man. It is an extreme case of racial profiling and it is just sickening that it still goes on.

[Tsundoku]

Studlock, on 25 November 2014 - 07:59 AM, said:

Sombra, on 25 November 2014 - 07:40 AM, said:

... and as we all know the best way to show your outrage over the perceived lack of justice is to go on a violence spree and reinforce the stereotypes that may have contributed in the long and short term leadup to the original incident.

Well, at least it wasn't just over the result of an ice hockey game.

Jesus fucking Christ upon the that shitty cross are you fucking kidding me with this? 'Perceived lack of justice'--yes because America doesn't have a 400 year history of murdering black humans without justice. 'Reinforce the stereotypes that may have contributed in the long and short term leadup to the original incident' because it's secretly black peoples faults they live with the systemic racist convenes of society that does not care if they live, and only feel joy when they die, who demonize their culture all the while stealing from it, who paint them as monstrous while shoot them in the street for the smallest of crimes. You realize this isn't a response to singular incident right? You realize a 12 black child and shot and killed today in Cleveland because he had a airsoft rifle right? And this isn't out of the norm? This a people who are coming to terms no matter how many years of non-violent protests (MLK was shot in the fucking 60s) the powers that be still don't give a damn about them, the system does not working for them, in fact it works against them. Why must they be better than model citizens while their country destroys them with impudent disregard for their personhood? Do I think this responses is the best response? No, but you don't get to fucking sit there so fucking far removed from their struggles and make a senseless racist joke and question their intentions you racist fuck.

Burn the fucking fields humanity is lost.

Thank you for making my point.

I don't know what was going through the cop's head at the time. I have read and seen incredibly conflicting eyewitness testimony, so I can't make my mind up either.

Does a Grand Jury verdict have to be unanimous? I note apparently we're going to get some sort of access to the GJ goings-on, so that may explain things. The point is I DON'T KNOW, which is why I used words like "perceived" and "may have".

And yes, I saw the story about the 12 year old with the incredibly realistic-looking airsoft pistol. Again, I don't know what was going through the cop's mind, but I do know a 12 year old can shoot you just as dead as an adult.

Maybe the cop was guilty, but it still doesn't justify rioting. I think back to the LA riots after the Rodney King case and I wonder whose property got destroyed this time around?

This post has been edited by Sombra: 25 November 2014 - 08:22 AM

[EmperorMagus]

Sombra, on 25 November 2014 - 07:40 AM, said:

... and as we all know the best way to show your outrage over the perceived lack of justice is to go on a violence spree and reinforce the stereotypes that may have contributed in the long and short term leadup to the original incident.

Well, at least it wasn't just over the result of an ice hockey game.

I'm not saying the violence is the correct answer, because I believe it is not. BUT, you have to admit that if they don't burn cars and throw stones, no one will pay any attention to them. Also, a lot of the protesters are not violent, you can't lump all of them together for christ's sake.

[Studlock]

Really you think of objects instead if you know the fucking human being who was beaten and a dozen cops that were caught on film and yet still were let go? That's a horrific worldview you got there.

And we do know what the man was thinking, their releasing all the evidence presented to the Grand Jury, notable quotes include the 6'4 210 man whose trained to deal with physical altercations felt like a child to Hulk Hogan like 6'4 280 child. Also apparently the young man had some sort of rage power which made him stronger as he was shot and was making a face so angry the only way to describe it was 'he looked like a demon'. Do you not understand that the Justice system does not work for African-Americans in America? That's a statistical fact. But sure they should just sit like good old boys and model minorities. Them glorious white folks will sort it all out.

Also realistic looking gun =! actual gun. They should probably, you know, not fucking fire on a 12 year old before making sure of that, or you know at all. But that's just me I guess, when citizens who have to legal authority to kill people if necessary should be held to a high standers than those who don't.

[Nicodimas]

emperormagus, on 25 November 2014 - 08:22 AM, said:

Sombra, on 25 November 2014 - 07:40 AM, said:

... and as we all know the best way to show your outrage over the perceived lack of justice is to go on a violence spree and reinforce the stereotypes that may have contributed in the long and short term leadup to the original incident.

Well, at least it wasn't just over the result of an ice hockey game.

I'm not saying the violence is the correct answer...

Quote

Men are born for games. Nothing else. Every child knows that play is nobler than work. He knows too that the worth or merit of a game is not inherent in the game itself but rather in the value of that which is put at hazard. Games of chance require a wager to have meaning at all. Games of sport involve the skill and strength of the opponents and the humiliation of defeat and the pride of victory are in themselves sufficient stake because they inhere in the worth of the principals and define them. But trial of chance or trial of worth all games aspire to the condition of war for here that which is wagered swallows up game, player, all.
Suppose two men at cards with nothing to wager save their lives. Who has not heard of such a tale? A turn of the card. The whole universe for such a player has labored clanking to this moment which will tell if he is to die at that man's hand, or that man at his. What more certain validation of a man's worth could there be? This enhancement of the game to it's ultimate state admits no argument concerning the notion of fate. The selection of one man over another is a preference absolute and irrevocable and it is a dull man indeed who could reckon so profound a decision without agency or significance either one. In such games as have for their stake the annihilation of the defeated the decisions are quite clear. This man holding this particular arrangement of cards in his hand is hereby removed from existence. This is the nature of war, whose stake is at once the game and the authority and the justification. Seen so, war is the truest form of divination. It is the testing of one's will and the will of another within that larger will which because it binds them is forced to select. War is the ultimate game because at last war is a forcing of the unity of existence. War is god.

-McCarthy

[EmperorMagus]

Nicodimas, on 25 November 2014 - 08:36 AM, said:

emperormagus, on 25 November 2014 - 08:22 AM, said:

Sombra, on 25 November 2014 - 07:40 AM, said:

... and as we all know the best way to show your outrage over the perceived lack of justice is to go on a violence spree and reinforce the stereotypes that may have contributed in the long and short term leadup to the original incident.

Well, at least it wasn't just over the result of an ice hockey game.

I'm not saying the violence is the correct answer...

Quote

Men are born for games. Nothing else. Every child knows that play is nobler than work. He knows too that the worth or merit of a game is not inherent in the game itself but rather in the value of that which is put at hazard. Games of chance require a wager to have meaning at all. Games of sport involve the skill and strength of the opponents and the humiliation of defeat and the pride of victory are in themselves sufficient stake because they inhere in the worth of the principals and define them. But trial of chance or trial of worth all games aspire to the condition of war for here that which is wagered swallows up game, player, all.
Suppose two men at cards with nothing to wager save their lives. Who has not heard of such a tale? A turn of the card. The whole universe for such a player has labored clanking to this moment which will tell if he is to die at that man's hand, or that man at his. What more certain validation of a man's worth could there be? This enhancement of the game to it's ultimate state admits no argument concerning the notion of fate. The selection of one man over another is a preference absolute and irrevocable and it is a dull man indeed who could reckon so profound a decision without agency or significance either one. In such games as have for their stake the annihilation of the defeated the decisions are quite clear. This man holding this particular arrangement of cards in his hand is hereby removed from existence. This is the nature of war, whose stake is at once the game and the authority and the justification. Seen so, war is the truest form of divination. It is the testing of one's will and the will of another within that larger will which because it binds them is forced to select. War is the ultimate game because at last war is a forcing of the unity of existence. War is god.

-McCarthy

The guy is verbose if nothing else.
But really, the words of a U.S Senator are the last thing in the world I would care abut.