Malazan Empire: Mafia 27: The Escape of the Benses (Game Thread) - Malazan Empire

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*cough* *cough* Can I talk now?

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, I can talk! And Galain can't. Meaning UB is still around, or Galain is faking it blah blah blah

First off, the reason why I seemed to be suspicious of more people whilst silenced:
a) it was day 2, more things to go on, and, more crucially

Do you have any idea how much effort I went to?! I spent literally all day yesterday finding pictures. So I figured I might as well make the majority of them useful ones and try to contribute, rather than just post joke/funny/contentless pics.

It's weird being silenced. I felt it gave me a different perspective on the whole game (well done to those who guessed the meanings, by the way). One thing that people didn't seem to get was that in one of my last posts I was calling for Gamelon to prove that he can't play and just call for a mod-kill (Paul Weller = mod) on himself, and save us the time and effort of wondering whether to lynch him, and instead concentrate on someone else. As it is, Gamelon seemed to have recovered enough to get a new attitude to the game, post a little more, remove his vote and hammer Hood's Path. Gamelon is certainly not off my radar.

Anyhoo, couple of other things I noticed. When the heat was put on Serc about his aggressive play, he toned it down MAJORLY, and has been a helpful little bunny ever since.

And D'riss has a tendency to pipe every time people are talking about who's been accused, and say 'look look, people have found me suspicious too!'

My gut feeling tells me that BB is not a low poster. Why should he be? He has an imporant role and will want to play it, and he has nothing to fear from death, as he can still win. Plus I bet he can't wait to choose someone else to play him as well. That feeling then points me in the direction of Serc and D'riss.

But to be honest, if Mockra and Omtose weren't CI, I would so be making cases on them and pushing for their lynches right now - but I think that's something to do with the fact that they know that they don't have to care about what they post as they're CIs

Also, when all is said and done, UB is still a symp. He can't win without his master. I've seen a lot of 'he strikes me as a UB' (and I've done this too), but I think we have to forget about that and concentrate on killing BB. Twice.


As for HP....I'd forgotten he was playing!

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I like him a lot more now that he's fluffy... he's my new bestest friend...

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"look, look, Telas found me suspicious too!" In all honesty... I did this twice, once as a reply to Serc on who could be lynched as an alternative for Gamelon.
Since I was on Bargasts list and yours, and had clashed with Serc, I felt keeping myself out of the list could and should be brought up by someone as a rather stupid attempt to get off the radar... while I feel able to defend myself against a properly constructed case, but not against my own stupidity...

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"look, look, Telas found me suspicious again!"
Enough of that...the way I see it:
it is in our interest to lynch BB asap without further reveals.
It is in BBs interest to see as much of the playing field as he can so that the second player can compose a gameplan straight from the moment of soulshift with as few surprises as possible... while we stagger around being confused and doubting everyone anew.
If so, the time to get killed for BB isn't there yet for only 2 roles are out in the open and those will have lost most of their appeal to him when their vig-kills are gone...

D said:

So you're saying, lynch BB as soon as possible? Funny, I thought that's what we were trying to do all along....you weren't?

Also, BB would have no power to gain from the vigs anyway: As JA said at the beginning, there's no power added on as they already kill at night. It's the guard/finder/healer or whatever they'll be looking to jump into. Ah, unless you mean convincing their partner to vig an innocent while offing their partner?

Quiet thread so not much else to add.

This is day 3. A bit less than 31 hours left in the day.

11 players alive, 6 to lynch or to go to night.


11 have not voted (Barghast, D'riss, Fener, Galain, Gamelon, Kaschan, Liosan, Mockra, Omtose, Serc, Telas)

Oh hey, what do people make of Galain's silencing? Anyone think UB thought he'd be a good target after all his theorising over silencing/not silencing yesterday? I would say there's no point in pouring the suspicion on Galain while he's silenced (unless he posts something particularly dodgy in a non-porno sense) and unable to adequately reply. So, even though I've found him suspicious since day 1 (mostly gut feeling, mind) I'm willing to ignore those suspicions for a day and look at others.

But I can't help but add: It's worth noting that in the last game UB silenced himself, and was pretty much ignored as a suspect after that. It's more than possible that either the same thing will happen/has happened, or (even likelier, in my opinion, as it wasn't tried last time) that BB will be/has been silenced.

Telas;375844 said:

Starting from bottom to top:
yup about the vigs with the convincing... yes to the finder/healer/guard.. especially the guard would be valuable to BB as it would allow him to break finder + healer... Now on to the top.
What I wanted to say is that's important to lynch BB without reveals.
Also, you said people would be positively happy about passing BB on, where I think BB will want to wait for a bit and draw out another reveal, first...

Telas;375846 said:

If we somehow seem to adopt some unspoken agreement to not lynch a silenced player because he can't defend himself adequately, it seems all the more likely that BB or UB will use the ability to camouflage themselves...

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Hmmm. correct me if I'm wrong, but today's silence on Galain makes Ruse CI.
After all, if Yellow was scum, then you and Galain have been faking it both... which would be stupidly obvious and it would be proven by time itself.

More, if Yellow was scum, at least 1 of you would have no reason to fake, for why would an inno do that? This makes both you and Galain mostly innocent in my books for now... or at the least makes me think you (= Telas) has been targeted by UB.

Ideally the bb doesnt want to pass on at all.

@ Mockra: there is that, too.

ZOMG Galain is faking being silenced! Its all a Ruse! Wait....

Serc;375863 said:

Heh If you added 'Fener = a bore' then we'd have all the classic puns in one post. Wait....

You forgot to mention that Telas is on fire.

So, I'm lost. Galain is apparently silenced, which means HP was nothing, unless we have activated the Galain Scenario by hanging his UB (hp) while he is BB.

the Galain Scenario, I like that. It sounds rather evil.

Forgive me, the painkillers, allergy pills, and lack of food are having their effect, be back after I find some food.

Strawmanning, Galain Scenario (sounds Dan Brownish... and lo, it has lost its appeal) we are playing and writing the Mafia Manual version 2 here at the same time...

Wow, strangely quiet at the moment it seems. So UB is obviously still around then, and Ruse just made a bad move.

I don't think being selected to be silenced by UB should clear anyone of anything. UB could easily have thought, silence someone and then see how people take it... since we didn't lynch Kaschan thought its a great way to hide. Its hard to build a case on someone who only posts pictures.

No, of course no one who's been silenced should be disregarded. In fact, I gave a warning of that when I said how in the last game the player who turned out to be UB was pretty much ignored as a suspect because they'd silenced themselves at one point.

But I think at the same time we're all wary of lynching someone who's been silenced, due to several reasons, but mostly because we're all nice people and want to give the silenced person a chance to properly defend themselves

Yesterday there were cases made on pretty much everybody and in the end people went for the lowest (although admittedly suspicious-looking) poster. I've just had a thought, though, and will try and follow it up in a while, when I have more time.


Edit: Oh hell, let's not give BB a chance to hide for a day. Lynch Galain. Even if Galain is inno, it will serve as a warning to the Benses