Malazan Empire: Mafia 27: The Escape of the Benses (Game Thread) - Malazan Empire

For the record, I still don't see why Ruse, if he were UB, would knowingly risk it all like this. I don't buy for one second that it was a sacrifice reveal of another player's pairing. My suspects remain Galain and to an extent, Fener. Can someone remind me please, what is the suspicion of Shadow? Is this that whole strawwhatsit thing?

I second the plea to Fener to elaborate more on Kaschan's accusation of him. The drop-in vote looked dodgy in light of that.

Still, it would seem out UB dislike the Kaschan alt.

is similar to the PS' PM to Kaschan about his silencing. Now, I don't know what's in that PM, so how the hell am I supposed to defend against that is beyond me. It was a half joking observation, based, As I already mentioned on the fact that in my Mafiaexperience Kaschan has been a rarely used alt, and if one was to try to figure out how UB chose someone to silence on day 1, it may be as simple as "I dislike that rarely used alt. let's get him"
It's possible that JA just thought the same thing, but decided to jazz up his PM to Kaschan a bit

yawn
good morning, all
I have actually fallen asleep last night in close proximity to a keyboard, wow

Seems Ruse went slightly overboard, esp with the whole codes thing. As some people already pointed out, at thispoint of the game, only scum would look for codes.

vote Ruse

however, if he comes up inno, we may have to take a closer look at Omtose again..

For the record, I still don't see why Ruse, if he were UB, would knowingly risk it all like this. I don't buy for one second that it was a sacrifice reveal of another player's pairing. My suspects remain Galain and to an extent, Fener. Can someone remind me please, what is the suspicion of Shadow? Is this that whole strawwhatsit thing?

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As to strawmanning, a prime example from Shadow.

Shadow;374312 said:

First underlined bit: I haven't pushed any case on Ruse. I voted and gave a reason. Never have I called for others to vote Ruse and I haven't been hounding everything he says as I would be doing if I was trying to push his lynch.

Second underlined bit: Instead of looking for scummy play? My vote for Ruse was based on scummy play. Weakly scummy, I know (I have never said otherwise), but scummy non-the-less.

Third underlined bit: Lynching for the sake of getting a lynch is something I have never suggested or advocated at any point. Ever.

Fourth underlined bit: I never said for more information on day 2. I said for information (and maybe that was misinterpreted), but I meant now, in the form of discussion, reactions and responses - as mentioned above.

All of these are instances of strawmanning (as stated the last may be simple misinterpretation), presenting as fact (see the bolded bit at the end) things which I have never said or done.

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but JA might have snuck in an evil pair, and as he hasn't answered my PM asking about that, I assume no answer is forth-coming. So for now, I have to play along.

OK, caught up, Omtose looks like I owe you an apology, here goes -

Sorry I called you a lying scummy bastard, and for saying that your mom smelled like old shoes, but JA might have snuck in an evil pair, and as he hasn't answered my PM asking about that, I assume no answer is forth-coming. So for now, I have to play along. The simple fact that you have a bone that you wont drop pisses me off a little, but I'll deal with that, Ruse looks like the lynch and time is way short, so I guess I will remove Vote vote Ruse

By the way Omtose, if I get time today, I will respond to your underlined parts. Hee hee, that sounds dirty.

The Benses (evil team)[/B]

One of each of the following roles WILL be present:

Big Ben (killer) – Although your mastering of Meanas allows you to remain undetected, you are also able to draw from various other warrens, allowing you one lethal attack per night, when the others are sleeping.

You are a soul-shifter, when you die, you are able to transfer your soul into the player of your choice. Upon death, the player chooses another alt to carry over his role. The player playing this alt now becomes Big Ben and gains his role (on top of anything he already had), and changes his winning conditions accordingly.

This shifting happens ONCE, so if the second Big Ben dies the evil team loses.

Uncle Ben (symp) – You don’t really agree with Big’s mentality of killing your fellow man, even if they are Mezla. However, your mastery of Meanas allows you to silence one player per day. You do this by sending the mods the name of the player you want to silence.

Once silenced, a player can no longer speak, but he can still post and contribute. The posts can only contain: votes, quotes, emoticons, player's alts and images (uploaded or linked from the web).

This power can be used every day and as many times as wanted, although it can’t target the same player two days in a row. It can be used on himself, or on Big Ben if wanted. The silencing is in effect from the end-of-night to the end-of-day post from the mod. This silencing apply to PMs between pairs, so please don’t cheat

Note: upon investigation/CF, Uncle Ben will come up as “Innocent”

Note 2: The two Benses can NOT communicate off-thread, although they will know of each other. When the first Big Ben shift, Uncle Ben will be made aware of the identity of his new master, and vice-versa.

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OK, just got confirmation, no evil paired people, that sucks, I knew Omtose was evil, oh well, just goes to show, first impessions arent always right. So Omtose, are you and Tennes gonna get the lynch, or are you gonna let time expire, while you continue to push for m lynch, there is plenty of time for that tomorrow, you know.

what you need confirmation for?

it says so in the rules...

Alright, Omtose, be careful what you say, you might really piss me off and now isn't the best time to do so, ok. this is a game and if you think I am scum, fine, but curb your attitude.

No where in the rules does it say

these are the only roles, or the roles are the only ones etc. It just says that some of the roles might be paired, do you really put it past JA to throw in evil gaurds or some crap?

One of each of the following roles WILL be present:


No role not described here will be used.