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#5281 User is offline   Malankazooie 

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Posted 22 May 2019 - 06:52 PM

I think you've guys have mentioned this before?

There's A New 'Dark Crystal' Show Coming To Netflix — Amazing New Images And Release Date Revealed

I don't know anything about the original material (it's live action puppets, right?). Is it any good? / worth watching before this comes out?
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Posted 22 May 2019 - 07:02 PM

View PostMalankazooie, on 22 May 2019 - 06:52 PM, said:

I think you've guys have mentioned this before?

There's A New 'Dark Crystal' Show Coming To Netflix — Amazing New Images And Release Date Revealed

I don't know anything about the original material (it's live action puppets, right?). Is it any good? / worth watching before this comes out?



Dark Crystal is one of the greatest films ever, man. You have to watch it, it is awesome.

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Posted 22 May 2019 - 07:11 PM

Dunno about others, but The Dark Crystal gets an A+ from me.


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View Postworry, on 22 May 2019 - 06:38 PM, said:

I'm interested in Catch-22...the book is great (didn't read the sequel). If you like the Kindly/Pores stuff from Malazan, but also want a good, occasionally scathing WWII-set military satire: 1- you have very specific taste & 2- this is the book for you!


I just don't have the patience to read Catch-1 through Catch-21.



These are all Monster of the Week books. You don't really get into the overarching WWII mythology until 22.
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Posted 22 May 2019 - 07:13 PM

Didn't even know there was a sequal to Catch-22. Great novel. The conversation between Yossarian and the Italian bloke about empires is great.
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Posted 22 May 2019 - 07:18 PM

View PostGorefest, on 22 May 2019 - 07:02 PM, said:

View PostMalankazooie, on 22 May 2019 - 06:52 PM, said:

I think you've guys have mentioned this before?

There's A New 'Dark Crystal' Show Coming To Netflix — Amazing New Images And Release Date Revealed

I don't know anything about the original material (it's live action puppets, right?). Is it any good? / worth watching before this comes out?



Dark Crystal is one of the greatest films ever, man. You have to watch it, it is awesome.

I'll seek it out.
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Posted 22 May 2019 - 08:23 PM

View Postworry, on 22 May 2019 - 07:11 PM, said:

Dunno about others, but The Dark Crystal gets an A+ from me.


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View Postworry, on 22 May 2019 - 06:38 PM, said:

I'm interested in Catch-22...the book is great (didn't read the sequel). If you like the Kindly/Pores stuff from Malazan, but also want a good, occasionally scathing WWII-set military satire: 1- you have very specific taste & 2- this is the book for you!


I just don't have the patience to read Catch-1 through Catch-21.



These are all Monster of the Week books. You don't really get into the overarching WWII mythology until 22.


I understand the spinoff, Catcher In The Rye, is despairingly grimdark.



View PostMalankazooie, on 22 May 2019 - 07:18 PM, said:

View PostGorefest, on 22 May 2019 - 07:02 PM, said:

View PostMalankazooie, on 22 May 2019 - 06:52 PM, said:

I think you've guys have mentioned this before?

There's A New 'Dark Crystal' Show Coming To Netflix — Amazing New Images And Release Date Revealed

I don't know anything about the original material (it's live action puppets, right?). Is it any good? / worth watching before this comes out?



Dark Crystal is one of the greatest films ever, man. You have to watch it, it is awesome.

I'll seek it out.


You should. Accept it for a product of when it was made, and it's actually charmingly great.
I love that the Netflix show is going for the same visual puppet style even with modern animation.
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Posted 23 May 2019 - 04:50 PM

View PostAbyss, on 22 May 2019 - 08:23 PM, said:

View Postworry, on 22 May 2019 - 07:11 PM, said:

Dunno about others, but The Dark Crystal gets an A+ from me.


View PostAbyss, on 22 May 2019 - 06:40 PM, said:

View Postworry, on 22 May 2019 - 06:38 PM, said:

I'm interested in Catch-22...the book is great (didn't read the sequel). If you like the Kindly/Pores stuff from Malazan, but also want a good, occasionally scathing WWII-set military satire: 1- you have very specific taste & 2- this is the book for you!


I just don't have the patience to read Catch-1 through Catch-21.



These are all Monster of the Week books. You don't really get into the overarching WWII mythology until 22.


I understand the spinoff, Catcher In The Rye, is despairingly grimdark.



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View PostGorefest, on 22 May 2019 - 07:02 PM, said:

View PostMalankazooie, on 22 May 2019 - 06:52 PM, said:

I think you've guys have mentioned this before?

There's A New 'Dark Crystal' Show Coming To Netflix — Amazing New Images And Release Date Revealed

I don't know anything about the original material (it's live action puppets, right?). Is it any good? / worth watching before this comes out?



Dark Crystal is one of the greatest films ever, man. You have to watch it, it is awesome.

I'll seek it out.


You should. Accept it for a product of when it was made, and it's actually charmingly great.
I love that the Netflix show is going for the same visual puppet style even with modern animation.



Hhhhmmmmmmm

It is a classic 80s movie. The level of detail in the scenery, music, and animatronics was ground breaking at the time.
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Posted 24 May 2019 - 03:52 PM

View Postpolishgenius, on 24 May 2018 - 10:43 PM, said:

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Anyway, I hope you all have been watching Killing Eve, I see Briar King has been giving it love. I started it on Monday and just started watching episode 5, it's superb. One of those intense-relationship-between-lawperson-and-psycho jobbies like Luther and Hannibal, except in this case it's two women, an MI5 agent (Sandra Oh) and a contract killer (Jodie Comer). Both are absolutely brilliant, and the show balances being savagely funny with just being savage and darkly off-kilter in just the right ways. Even when it's being obvious it surprises.



View PostLackluster Bachelorette, on 24 May 2018 - 11:54 PM, said:

It's been a huge surprise. What it turned into isn't what they were shipping it as. I could have sworn from trailers pre release it was going to be like Dexter knock off. There was certainly no government agents mention in them then. I do very much wonder still if this would have gotten the go ahead if pitched after the real life UK/Russia spy stuff going down.

Very much a winner so far only wish season wasn't so short as this next is the finale. Hopefully S2...haven't looked it up yet to see if it made it.



View Postpolishgenius, on 25 May 2018 - 04:38 AM, said:

I only saw one brief trailer that didn't really make it look like anything, but from the overall marketing and word of mouth it was seemingly being sold as for fans of Hannibal. It isn't really like that but you can see why and it's a definite inspiration.

Also, it got renewed before it even started airing. Clearly they were very confident in it and with reason because apparently the viewing figures have gone up with every episode, which doesn't happen often.



View Postpolishgenius, on 28 May 2018 - 10:13 PM, said:

Killing Eve finished and I am delighted that I found this show. It's ace. Watch it y'all.




Three eps into KILLING EVE s1, and yah, this is solid TV. Engaging characters, good twists, excellent pace, amazingly funny at times considering what's going on.

I have never particularly liked Sandra Oh, and here she is killing it, pun intended, and so is the rest of the cast.

SPOILER S1 ep 3...

Spoiler


Tnx for the recos.
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Posted 24 May 2019 - 07:55 PM

Extremely good. Especially if you lean Democrat I imagine.
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Posted 24 May 2019 - 09:17 PM

View PostAptorian, on 24 May 2019 - 07:55 PM, said:

Extremely good. Especially if you lean Democrat I imagine.

The West Wing is pablum that has some strong performances.

That's pretty much how I feel about most Sorkin projects tho.
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Posted 25 May 2019 - 12:51 AM

Anyone watch VEEP? Wrapped up my Deadwood rewatch and i'm looking for a new show.
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Posted 25 May 2019 - 02:09 AM

Veep started off disorienting (to me anyway) because it's shot like a mockumentary (but isn't one) AND is super fast like quasi-Sorkin, but once you get in the thick of it (no pun intended), it's really really great....and it stayed great until last season which was mostly a real bummer imo. I haven't gotten to the new (final) season yet. If you're in the mood for something funny but super cynical, it's a good choice.
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Posted 25 May 2019 - 04:08 AM

View Postamphibian, on 24 May 2019 - 09:17 PM, said:

View PostAptorian, on 24 May 2019 - 07:55 PM, said:

Extremely good. Especially if you lean Democrat I imagine.

The West Wing is pablum that has some strong performances.

That's pretty much how I feel about most Sorkin projects tho.



View PostLackluster Bachelorette, on 25 May 2019 - 12:51 AM, said:

On Ep 4.

This is a rather eyerollinglysimpledrama that is only drawing me in through looking at all the old 90’s tech/cars.

Story telling is rather cringe worthy.


You people are cold and dead inside. West Wing is the political version of ER. It's fast and talky and full of pathos.


View PostSlow Ben, on 25 May 2019 - 12:51 AM, said:

Anyone watch VEEP? Wrapped up my Deadwood rewatch and i'm looking for a new show.


I bounced off the first episode. I was expecting 30 rock but got something half and half that felt too much like the office with no humor.
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Posted 25 May 2019 - 04:27 AM

Dang, AP Bio got canceled. I like the idea of American networks doing small batch sitcoms like other countries already do, and while it wasn't as great as The Good Place, I really liked this show's whole vibe. Still a couple eps left to air at least.
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Posted 25 May 2019 - 04:39 AM

Started Barry first, good choice, seems right up my alley.
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Posted 25 May 2019 - 04:51 AM

Yah Barry rules.
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Posted 25 May 2019 - 05:03 AM

Yeah, its really good. NoHo Hank is the best. Hey baudy, submaurine sandwich or something?
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Posted 27 May 2019 - 01:11 PM

My two favourite characters on XENA were not (as it happens) Xena. I loved both Gabrielle and Callisto. In fact, for those that love Prince Zuko's story arc (villain to redemption) on AIRBENDER, this was what I felt Callisto got, so watching her episodes is always a blast. I'm up to mid-S2 now, and watched the 2 parter where Callisto (after dying; for the first time) works with Ares from the underworld to use Xena's body to be resurrected. This results in Xena being in Callisto's body, and Callisto being in Xena's. It's a fun episode and give you a tiny taste of how Lucy would play the baddie, and Hudson Leick would play a good character. That's where the fun begins though, because of the shooting order of S2 and that only about half of S2 had been shot...Lucy Lawless injured herself doing a late show skit in '96...so an episode about Ares auditioning warlords to be the new god of war in his place...had no star. So they flew Hudson and Renee (Gabrielle) back to New Zealand and reshot the ending of the body swap episode to make it so that Xena is still stuck in Callisto's body, and then shot the entirety of the Ares episode with Callisto-As-Xena while Lucy healed. It's SUCH a fun episode because Hudson playing Callisto normally is a screechy, villainous-eyebrow-titling, always baddie....so getting to see her play a straight hero character without all that is awesome. They even tame, comb, and braid her hair to make her more in line with Xena. It's only one episode and Xena is back in her body the next one, but MAN what a fun episode.

Anyways, passing the midway point of S2 is important because after this it becomes much more world-building and character focused.

So in answer to your question Abyss....yep, holds up. Even the cheesier early season fight scenes (these get much better later on) are fun knowing that this is a Sam Raimi joint full of camp and whatnot. The good episodes are still SO good, while I can skip ones I know are pretty bad.

I'm also on the watch for the God Appearance effects. At some point in the run, the way gods appear include glowing motes of light that whip them into the scene or out of it (and then there are further stuff like the god of Wealth appears in a cascade of magic coins) usually tailored to the god in question, so for example Aphrodite is pink motes of light. But this did not occur initially. At this point in S2 only Ares appears abruptly, and it's just a fade in or fade out...no effects yet. I'm GUESSING it may happen at S3 opener....but I'm unsure.

Man, revisiting this show is so much fun. It's interesting that like Hercules The Legendary Journeys (starring the unfortunate now-Conservative Kevin Sorbo), this show was NEVER designed for prime time...it was designed or syndication. A show that could run at off-peak times to fill a schedule. It often ran at 6PM or 7PM for new episodes...but Xena became such a runaway hit (winning a bunch of Emmys to boot) that they had to shift it to a Prime Time slot (I think S3 or 4) which was Wednesday's at 9PM...so I made sure to always be home to watch it (ahhhhh, remember 'appointment television' fellow oldies?). Other than whatever Star Trek show was on during that time, this was the only show I cared about enough to be home to watch without fail. Which made it bad when they'd do a bad episode like one where Joxer (Ted Raimi) relives his day (Ala Groundhog Day) and a wheel of cheese is involved. But still. LOL

Also, I'm curious to see how the time jump stacks up all these years later (During S5 Xena and Gabrielle are put to sleep and awaken 25 years later).

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Posted 27 May 2019 - 04:23 PM

The crazy thing about Hercules and Xena was that the longer the show ran, the better the episodes got (As far as I remember). That stuff about the Roman Empire and Christianity and Nordic Mythology emerging was really promising.
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Posted 27 May 2019 - 05:38 PM

I only watched it scattershot, but i recall thinking the time jump and Cesar thing was a bad idea and being pleasantly surprised.
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