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Just rereading the prologue and realised that the five hounds of shadow don't seam to be running from the Degorath in the first scene. Either they managed to escape or this scene is in fact before the events of BH. In fact I don't recall any real mention of the hounds in RG, though I don't have it to hand. Thoughts...
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Posted 01 May 2008 - 12:58 PM
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Posted 01 May 2008 - 04:12 PM
No because when paran releases them in BH, shadowthrone says something like they will tear shadow apart looking for the hounds
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Posted 01 May 2008 - 04:18 PM
Didn't they get distracted by the Trohl'barahl thing anyway?
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Posted 01 May 2008 - 04:32 PM
Blend;298537 said:
Didn't they get distracted by the Trohl'barahl thing anyway?
I think you have a point there. It seems they had some plan for him, maybe more important that catching the hounds.
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Posted 01 May 2008 - 04:45 PM
Aptorian;298540 said:
I think you have a point there. It seems they had some plan for him, maybe more important that catching the hounds.
I always understood that there was a serious animosity between the Trohl'ba-however you spell it and the Deragoth, and that's why Paran went to find the Deragoth in the first place. Something along the lines of the Trohl guys trying to usurp the Deragoth's power base or something?
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Posted 02 May 2008 - 12:05 AM
That would make sense. I always thought that it was a bit of overkill to send the Deragoth after him, of course Paran had no idea how weak he had become but still.
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Posted 02 May 2008 - 12:14 AM
Tiger_sword;298797 said:
That would make sense. I always thought that it was a bit of overkill to send the Deragoth after him, of course Paran had no idea how weak he had become but still.
True otherwise he would have gotton the hounds of shadow to do it.
But when ST and paran talk one of the bits ST says is that the hounds won't bother with dejim till they got their shadows or something, so he sends the hounds of shadow to get dejim and lead the degaroth to the temple of Poliel.
Everyday I ask myself, where has the peanut butter gone?
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Posted 02 May 2008 - 12:23 AM
I think he mentions at one point that the Degaroth were the ones who caught him the first time...
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Posted 02 May 2008 - 02:39 AM
Paran: "Look! Distraction goddess!"
Deragoth: OM NOM NOM
Hounds of Shadow: "LET'S LEGGIT!"
Deragoth: "Wait, what?"
Deragoth: OM NOM NOM
Hounds of Shadow: "LET'S LEGGIT!"
Deragoth: "Wait, what?"
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Posted 02 May 2008 - 04:42 AM
Dessimbelackis, the first emperor, made the Trohl'barahl, then when he could not control it he used the Deragoth to help him seal it away untill the nameless ones freed him.
Near the end of TBH (pg 557 trade paperback) the hounds had gotten away and had returned to the shadow realm, while the Deragoth were killing the Trohl'barahl and Poliel
Near the end of TBH (pg 557 trade paperback) the hounds had gotten away and had returned to the shadow realm, while the Deragoth were killing the Trohl'barahl and Poliel
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Posted 02 May 2008 - 04:52 AM
yes
The question is, why didn't the Degaroth THEN resume the pursuit of the Hounds, the way ST in TbH was afraid they would?
The question is, why didn't the Degaroth THEN resume the pursuit of the Hounds, the way ST in TbH was afraid they would?
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Jump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:
And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 02 May 2008 - 07:52 AM
Perhaps a more interesting question still is where are the Degaroth now and what are they upto
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Posted 02 May 2008 - 09:14 AM
What else to large, angry dogs do?
Theyre probably sniffing at each other's rears and ruunning around in circles in some warren.
Or possibly they are restarting a colony in 7C? It was their home, after all.
Theyre probably sniffing at each other's rears and ruunning around in circles in some warren.
Or possibly they are restarting a colony in 7C? It was their home, after all.
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Posted 02 May 2008 - 07:05 PM
Still it does make me wonder when the Deragoth story will continue. After all no book returns to seven cities so they must have moved on somewhere
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Posted 03 May 2008 - 10:29 AM
In the bone hunters i think Ddejim Nebrahl makes a comment on how cunning the master of the deragoth was. now was Dessimbelackis the master? cos i thought it was mentioned somewhere that he made a bargain with them. i don't remember anything bout him being their master.
And if so, who is the master of the deragoth and is he still around.
BTW, loony theory-> Dessimbelackis is the hounds of shadow! Mwah haha! D'ivers!
This is why Paran is almost but not quite a soletaken hound, as he only came in contact with a part of a full soul, one seventh in fact.
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And if so, who is the master of the deragoth and is he still around.
BTW, loony theory-> Dessimbelackis is the hounds of shadow! Mwah haha! D'ivers!
This is why Paran is almost but not quite a soletaken hound, as he only came in contact with a part of a full soul, one seventh in fact.
(Ducks and covers, attempting to shield himself from the barrage of abuse aimed in his direction)
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Posted 03 May 2008 - 10:37 AM
Dessim perhaps being the Hounds of Shadow isn't such a crazy theory, it's the most likely fate of the old emperor. We haven't heard of any other soletaken or d'ivers that could have been him...
