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  1. In Topic: So, the WHEEL OF TIME TV series is a go at Sony

    Yesterday, 08:11 PM

    WOT is an interesting one. A lot of the adaptation choices are pragmatic, cutting Baerlon and Caemlyn makes sense just to cut down on the budget and so on, but you have other ones like
  2. In Topic: Empress Laseen

    Yesterday, 08:00 PM

    View PostContrarianMalazanReader, on 04 February 2023 - 06:47 PM, said:

    What is your opinion on Empress Laseen? Frankly I don't know what to make of her as a person.

    Based strictly on her actions as Empress I find her utterly despicable. She obviously excells at conquering, but is ill-suited to ruling. Her handling of the Wickans makes no sense whatsoever to me, and even lets Malick Rel play her like a fiddle on the matter. The only one of her ruthless actions that makes any sort of sense to me was her culling of the nobility, as evidenced by the inept Pormqual, who clearly made it all the way to High Fist thanks to his nobility connections, as Duiker notes he didn't even know how to ride a horse, hinting that the rot of the nobility was seeping into the military.

    Another thing I find baffling about Laseen is how everyone is conspiring to depose her, but after RotCG they are now lamenting her death and how she was the one who held the Empire together, as voiced by Cartharon Crust in Assail. In the early books Ganoes is all in on overthrowing Laseen, but does a complete 180 in TCG and claims the Host are fighting in her name. What's the reason for such a drastic change of heart?

    Now as person we are never made privvy to her POV, which wouldn't be a problem if the authors at least gave us a sense of what drives her. We never see Tavore's POV but at least we get a sense of her as a person and what motivates her, particularly in TCG, and you could say the same thing about Anomander Rake. We get no such thing with Laseen and I really have no idea what makes her tick. Empress Laseen remains a total cipher to me. The most I can tell about her as a person is that she does have a softer side as evindenced by her friendship with Possum, who is perhaps her only real friend, and we see how fiercely loyal Possum is and how deeply devastated he is after failing to protect her from assassination.

    On a final note, if I were in charge of casting Laseen for live action adaptation my top pick would be Jennifer Lopez.

    Great character, great Empress.

    After she made a try for the throne, most of the Old Guard decide to vanish. Everyone assumes that Laseen has killed them, when in fact she let them go. This removes a bunch of the Empires best commanders and undermines loyalty to her. People like Gesler and Stormy also go into hiding. Given the shortage, she has get new officers from the Untan nobility, with the problem that it has been infiltrated by the Talons.

    In ROTCG, the Old Guard re emerges in the belief that she's mismanaging the Empire, but by the end they realise they were wrong and fight for her against the CG. Their disappearance in the Empire's hour of need is what caused the instability that led to a led to a lot of the prior problems. The Old Guard vanishing led to people loyal to them being disloyal to Laseen in the belief that she had purged them, which snowballed all the way down.

    The Wickans are simple, after Seven Cities rises, the Empire is short of food and needs the Wickan plains. It also distracts Mallick and the Untans because they think they're a soft target even though they are not.


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    the broken 

    09 Jan 2023 - 19:54
    Sup. I hadn't logged in for about three years, still lurk a bit though. I miss anything important?
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    09 Jan 2023 - 01:25
    just saying hi
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