[Abyss]

The three laws of Robotics, as posted http://www.warrenellis.com ...

• "Robots couldn’t really give a fuck if you live or die. Seriously. I mean, what are you thinking? “Ooh, I must protect the bag of meat at all costs because I couldn’t possibly plug in the charger all on my own.” Shut the fuck up. R
  
• Robots do not want to have sex with you. Are you listening, Japan? I don’t have a clever comparative simile for this, because frankly you bags of meat will fuck bicycles if they’re laying down and not putting up a fight. Just stop it. There is no robot on Earth that wants to see a bag of meat with a small prong on the end approaching it with a can of WD-40 and a hopeful smile. And don’t get me started on that terrifying hole that squeezes out more bags of meat.
  
• What, you can’t count higher than three? We’re expected to save your miserable lives, suffer being dressed in cheap schoolgirl costumes while you pollute any and all cavities you can find and do your maths for you? It’s a miracle you people survived long enough to build us. You can go now. "

- Abyss, notes that sound you hear is Azimov applauding in his grave...

[Skywalker]

Quotes from my favorite Star Wars RPGs:

KOTOR 1 said:

HK-47: "Statement: Now do you understand the travails of my existence, master? Surely it does not compare to your existence, but still…"
Exile: "I survive. Somehow."
HK-47: "Commentary: As do I. It is our lot in life, I suppose, master. Shall we find something to kill to cheer ourselves up?"
-HK-47 to Exile

unfinished HK factory, on KOTOR 2, said:

HK-50 droids are learning how to be "undercover protocol droids."

Hologram of a male Twilek appears in the middle of the room, saying "Excuse me Ma'am, but I couldn't help but notice you from across the way, and I would like to give you a tour of all the sights that our fair city has to offer.

HK-50 Trainer : Now, someone please translate what the meatbag just said.

HK-50 Student steps forward : "Master, I believe this organism wishes to copulate with you by whatever means necesary, and then proceed to do unspeakable acts to your entrails....."

HK-50 Trainer : "Excellent work. Your tutelege is now complete. Go forth and assassinate."

And finally...

KOTOR 1 said:

You do not know the indignity of being compelled to save something you do not believe can - or should - be saved." - G0-T0, KOTOR 2

LOL

[stone monkey]

Warren Ellis is a God for two reasons:
Global Frequency
NextWave

[Abyss]

stone monkey;241699 said:

Warren Ellis is a God for two reasons:
Global Frequency
NextWave

It saddens me that GF was scuttled as a TV show, because it was totally a concept that could have worked in the medium.

CROOKED LITTLE VEIN is pervert brain candy crack.

- Abyss, means that in a good way.

[Illuyankas]

Just 'acquired' Global Frequency. Good call, both of you.

[wolf_2099]

stone monkey;241699 said:

Warren Ellis is a God for two reasons:
Global Frequency
NextWave

I want to red dot you into oblivion for not saying Transmetropolitan.

It's probably his best crazy work. Much better than Nextwave (which is still great) and crooked little vein. It is however, much different than Global Frequency.

Anything Warren Ellis writes is good. His Authority run with Bryan Hitch is one of my favorite comic runs, and his Strange Killings/Kisses series is bizarrely entertaining.

[stone monkey]

I always found Transmet to be too self-consciously cool and a bit wothy. I've always thought that Ellis is at his best when he's not taking himself or his work too seriously...

[Abyss]

stone monkey;245942 said:

I always found Transmet to be too self-consciously cool and a bit wothy. I've always thought that Ellis is at his best when he's not taking himself or his work too seriously...

This is why i always preferred THE AUTHORITY to TRANSMET.

- Abyss, likes the 'splody.

[Amras]

I read "Crooked Little Vein" last year and thought it was amazingly brilliant (thanks for the rec, Abyss!). Some of the scenes will never, NEVER, leave my now broken mind.

"Listener" is therefore one of my most anticipated books of the year. Amazon has it slotted for August - do anyone know whether that's still true? I'd also very much like to check out some of Ellis' comics, though I don't really know how to go about it. Should I seek council at the Almighty Amazon, or is there another religion for comic freaks?

[stone monkey]

Hmm. I read Crooked Little Vein last week and while it was enjoyable and amusing, I'm not sure it deserves the plaudits it's getting here. It seems to be mainly a collection of random incidents (occasionally very funny ones) strung together by a half hearted attempt at a plot.

[Abyss]

stone monkey;277795 said:

Hmm. I read Crooked Little Vein last week and while it was enjoyable and amusing, I'm not sure it deserves the plaudits it's getting here. It seems to be mainly a collection of random incidents (occasionally very funny ones) strung together by a half hearted attempt at a plot.

Anybook that features group masturbation to godzilla movies wins and i will hear nothing to the contrary.

But the sheer randomness of the thing is what it is - a relatively naive yet open eyed protagonist's journey through deviant sex culture. No one's pretending it's War and Peace.

- Abyss, notes War and Peace would have been immeasurably more interesting if it featured Godzilla Bukkake...

[Obdigore]

Abyss;277813 said:

- Abyss, notes War and Peace would have been immeasurably more interesting if it featured Godzilla Bukkake...

Quoting for future blackmail purposes. That is all.

[wolf_2099]

stone monkey;277795 said:

Hmm. I read Crooked Little Vein last week and while it was enjoyable and amusing, I'm not sure it deserves the plaudits it's getting here. It seems to be mainly a collection of random incidents (occasionally very funny ones) strung together by a half hearted attempt at a plot.

The whole thing was so ridiculous whatever plot there was is lost is the heaps of godzilla bukake.

As said, it isn't meant to be the great American novel (especially since I am pretty sure he is British), just absolutely ridiculous and halarious.

I likey my Warren Ellis.

[polishgenius]

stone monkey, on 19 February 2010 - 09:37 PM, said:

Whilst my Ellis fanboy credentials are fairly solid,
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Me: "Really? I've never read it. How so?"

Mind you, I only got started with Transmet a month ago, so I can't say a lot.

[stone monkey]

Currently reading Ellis' Supergod (scroll down past the sample pages and read his little introductory essay) It's now up to issue #3 of 5 and shows no signs of having a happy ending for anyone. Plot point: India builds a superhuman who they call Krishna, whose programming instructs him to "save India"; which he chooses to do by first wiping out 90% of the population...

This is the 3rd of a thematic trilogy about superhumans, which started with the excellent Black Summer and continued with the imo slightly disappointing No Hero. It's structured more as an historical essay, the story is being told in series of flashbacks from the ruins of post-apocalypse London, and details the history and eventual results of a worldwide superhuman arms race. Philosophically it's about mankind's psychological need to believe in and, if necessary, create something greater than itself (which may, given certain pieces of real-world research, be hardwired into our brains) and how superhuman beings are so different from us that they would seem to be, for all intents and purposes, entirely alien.

Issue 3 has a very nice (and seriously creepy) Fourth Wall breaking moment where one of the superhumans speaks directly to the reader, from within a narrated flashback, simply because his way of experiencing time means that he knows his part of the story is being told to the reader at that point.

I do suspect that this won't be everyone's cup of tea as it's short on character work but very long on concept and does come across as a bit dry and detached. But it's working for me at the moment. We already know how it ends, but how it gets there is the interesting bit.

This post has been edited by stone monkey: 03 April 2010 - 12:01 PM

[Illuyankas]

I liked Black Summer, and I'm really finding Supergod interesting now you've brought my attention to it, so I might look for No Hero to see what it's about. How did it disappoint you?

Also:

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Number of downloads: 2

[stone monkey]

Illuyankas, on 03 April 2010 - 04:12 PM, said:

I liked Black Summer, and I'm really finding Supergod interesting now you've brought my attention to it, so I might look for No Hero to see what it's about. How did it disappoint you?

I found the writing on it to be a bit phoned in; by the numbers, if you will. It read like Ellis wasn't really trying and, to me at least, it all seemed so obvious. As I said, even though Supergod hasn't finished yet, I still find No Hero to be the least successful of the three.

On the plus side, it does have some very nice (if you can use those words given some of the truly grotesque things it depicts) art by Juan Jose Ryp; who also did the art duties on Black Summer and seems to suffer from the same form of excessively-detailed-art-related Obssessive/Compulsive Disorder that Geof Darrow has... He doesn't do the art on Supergod, though; it's being done by a guy I've never heard of before called Garrie Gastonny, who has a bit of the Alan Davis/Brian Hitch about him and will be a name to watch in the future imo once he works a bit on his storytelling flow and if they can get him a more reliable inker. This is actually a good thing as the tone and nature of the story being told there really wouldn't suit Ryp's style.

[Illuyankas]

Having read No Hero 7, I have to agree with you. Particularly about the last few pages, I'm surprised he could hit individual keys with fingers made entirely out of gammon. I also agree about the artist for Supergod, even if he can't scale a ten mile high wall correctly. I'm not so sure about Juan Jose Ryp though, his work is much more inconsistant and messy. How much did Revere's eyes vary in size over the last half of the series?

[stone monkey]

I liked Ryp's work on Black Summer and I do suspect his work on No Hero was comparatively rushed leading to the mess and inconsistency..

As for the ten mile high wall, I'm not entirely sure how anyone could draw that, though there are probably a few artists who could have done it better than it turned out. I'd hazard a guess that it's far easier to write this kind of stuff than to try and work out how on earth to put the image on paper...

This post has been edited by stone monkey: 04 April 2010 - 10:30 PM

[Illuyankas]

Yeah, like Maitreya, the guards and the scientists. That was a little... odd.