[Bauchelain the Evil]

I use the Italian pronounce wich is Doo-e-ker

[Sea-Bass]

Seeing as I am Dutch as well Ive always spoken it our way.
The "ui" vowel is pronounced like this in Dutch.
Phonetically written it would be this. [D-ə:y-k-ε-r]

[Sparkimus]

I think I may be mildly dislexic. All this time I've read it Dukier and called him thusly. My world just flipped upside down :Surprise:

[Apocalypse Now]

I'm of the opinion that it's totally dweeker.

Also, Spark I'm with you, happens to me a lot, my world was flipped upside down when I discovered it was Rara-ku. I had always seen it as Rah-kah-roo, or Rakaru(this happened yesterday)

This post has been edited by Apocalypse Now: 28 December 2008 - 08:27 PM

[Xachariah]

I prounouced it how it's written, Duiker  

Duke-er, in english ui is pronounced with an oo sound unless the U is silent, like in Suit (Soot), Bruise (Broose), Fruit (Froot), Cruise (Crooze), Druid (Drood), Fluid (Floo-d), Juice (Joose) or Tuition (Too-ish-in). If the U is silent (which we have no indication of) it would be pronounced Dyke-er.


Now if the books were written in another language like french it would be a W sound as in Suite (Sweet). 

But whatever, if you want to pick the whole word apart and pronounce is Duh-You-Eye-Ker or whatever the hell your moon language pronounces each individual letter then just go right ahead.

[HoosierDaddy]

DO (I do a job)-ICK-ER

Tell me I'm wrong and I'll ignore you.

This post has been edited by HoosierDaddy: 28 March 2009 - 09:58 AM

[masan's saddle]

Xachariah, on Mar 28 2009, 10:24 AM, said:

I prounouced it how it's written, Duiker

Duke-er, in english ui is pronounced with an oo sound unless the U is silent, like in Suit (Soot), Bruise (Broose), Fruit (Froot), Cruise (Crooze), Druid (Drood), Fluid (Floo-d), Juice (Joose) or Tuition (Too-ish-in). If the U is silent (which we have no indication of) it would be pronounced Dyke-er.


Now if the books were written in another language like french it would be a W sound as in Suite (Sweet).

But whatever, if you want to pick the whole word apart and pronounce is Duh-You-Eye-Ker or whatever the hell your moon language pronounces each individual letter then just go right ahead.

HoosierDaddy, on Mar 28 2009, 10:58 AM, said:

DO (I do a job)-ICK-ER

Tell me I'm wrong and I'll ignore you.

Sorry daddy you'll have to ignore me, as the name is written in English, phonetically speaking Xach is correct.

Ui translates as oo.

However, eye of the beholder and all that, whatever makes ya happy !

[Nether]

Holy crap! Three pages of replies to a simple question like how a word is pronounced. Other languages make it too hard for their users to use it properly. Why can't you just pronounce it, just how it is written.

I'm not sure if I can explain this properly, but in the finnish language, pronounciation is quite simple. Once you learn how to pronounce each letter individually, you basically know how to pronounce everything. All words are pronounced exactly like pronouncing each individual letter in a consistent row. Is this making any sense? However the only exception to this rule is the N letter, which is pronounced slightly differently when it is in front of G or K. That's it.

Duiker in finnish would be pronounced somewhat like: Do-ik-eh-r.
I always had trouble pronouncing the name in my head in english, since haven't got the slightest clue how to do that(which goes for a lot of Eriksons characters names).

[MTS]

I pronounce it Jew-i-ker. I say Jew because if i wrote Dew-i-ker it looks like Doo-i-ker, but that's Yank talk, like stoo-pid .

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[Salt-Man Z]

So you basically say Dyoo-i-ker, right?

[Eddie Dean]

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[MTS]

Salt-Man Z, on May 1 2009, 01:50 AM, said:

So you basically say Dyoo-i-ker, right?

Yeah, something like that.

[Aptorian]

I cannot belive this thread is three pages long.

[Nina]

alt146, on Oct 4 2008, 02:14 PM, said:

A duiker (pronounced /ˈdaɪkɚ/) is any of about 19 small to medium-sized antelope species from the subfamily Cephalophinae native to Sub-Saharan Africa.

Yes, and in the first Russian translation this character is simply called "Antelope".

[Steel General]

It's pronounced whatever way works for you...

[alt146]

Nina, on Sep 1 2009, 07:47 PM, said:

alt146, on Oct 4 2008, 02:14 PM, said:

A duiker (pronounced /ˈdaɪkɚ/) is any of about 19 small to medium-sized antelope species from the subfamily Cephalophinae native to Sub-Saharan Africa.

Yes, and in the first Russian translation this character is simply called "Antelope".

Hehe, I suppose that supports my argument, although you have to wonder if he wasnt called that because the translators just didnt know what else to do with the word, or if the got some sort of inside line from SE that it was intended to be used in the same way as other malazan names which refer to established objects or adjectives.

Either way, pronouncing it any way other than 'Day-ker' sounds silly to me, since that's the way I've been pronouncing the word since I was a child.

[Nina]

alt146, on Sep 1 2009, 10:07 PM, said:

Hehe, I suppose that supports my argument, although you have to wonder if he wasnt called that because the translators just didnt know what else to do with the word, or if the got some sort of inside line from SE that it was intended to be used in the same way as other malazan names which refer to established objects or adjectives.

You see, that's really a big problem because in Russian you cannot leave it like it stays in the text, you have to spell it in Cyrillic letters, and to spell it you have to know how that's pronounced. I think that both versions ("Antelope" in the first translation and Дюкр (that is pronounced like due-kr) in the second are a mere translator's guess. Sometimes a name which refers to an object, should indeed be translated (especially simple ones like Picker or Fiddler) but the name "Tattersail" when translated looks very strange.

[Tarcanus]

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Duke-er, in english ui is pronounced with an oo sound unless the U is silent, like in Suit (Soot), Bruise (Broose), Fruit (Froot), Cruise (Crooze), Druid (Drood), Fluid (Floo-d), Juice (Joose) or Tuition (Too-ish-in). If the U is silent (which we have no indication of) it would be pronounced Dyke-er.

I don't know what english you're speaking, or where you're from (maybe you speak differently than I do), but in Pennsylvania we say Druid(droo id) and Fluid(floo id) and not ... whatever weird way you're doing it, lol.

[Witness]

I pronounce it in the Dutch manner. But then, I speak Dutch, so that´s a no-brainer really.
To clarify, I speak both English and Dutch fluently - it doesn´t strike me as strange to say Dutch words/names in an English sentence.

[woodge]

I agree with Traveller. Duiker is pronounced DWEYE-ker. Du as in Duane, i as in eye, and so forth. That's what I'm sticking with.