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Cry of the Newborn by James Barclay
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Posted 15 September 2007 - 10:20 PM
Just finished the book and posted a review to my blog here. Steven Erikson blurbed the second volume in the series, which is interesting as he doesn't do that many recs.
The mighty city of Estorr has expanded its power and influence over the surrounding kingdoms, forging over the course of 850 years a vast empire known as the Conquord. The supreme ruler of the Conquord, the Advocate, believes that the Empire must expand and conquer to survive. With the empire barely recovered from the subjugation of Atreska, and with bushfire wars along the northern border with the small kingdom of Omari continuing to rage, the Advocate ill-advisedly orders the Conquord's forces to march north-east into the vast neighbouring kingdom of Tsard.
Meanwhile, in the sleepy, isolated village of Westfallen on the Conquord's south coast, four infants are born, the product of five centuries of careful, selective breeding by the Echelon. As the years pass and they grow into adults, the full extent of their remarkable powers becomes clear. But some who learn of their existence consider them affronts to God, and religious fanaticism threatens them as much as the looming threat outside the Conquord's borders...
Cry of the Newborn is the first book of The Ascendents of Estorea, a duology which concluded with the recently-released Shout for the Dead. Although several plot strands are left dangling at the end of this opening volume, the novel is more or less self-contained.
James Barclay is best-known for his two trilogies concerning the mercenary band known as the Raven, which regrettably I haven't gotten around to reading. However, upon discovering a chunky trade paperback of Cry of the Newborn going for 99p in The Works, I decided to give it a go, and was pleasently surprised by it. This huge (850 pages in trade) volume depicts colossal battles (at least five I counted, as well as several huge naval engagements, an under-explored arena of fantasy combat), impressive sorcery and intricate politics. Barclay employs a mild revisionist streak in the novel. Instead of a medieval setting, the world is closely based on the Roman Empire. Magic is non-existent until the advent of the four Ascendents, and the reaction to its arrival is fairly realistic. One of the central characters is the Imperial tax collector (how the empire is funded is a major theme of the book). The Advocate, though not without flaws, is hardly the incompetent tyrant more traditional writers might reduce her to. Enormous armies traverse vast distances and, surprisingly, do have to deal with problems of supply lines, reinforcements, keeping their horses fed, equipment shortages etc.
The prose is pretty straightforward, though with flourishes of humour and tragedy at key points (the bodycount in this novel approaches Steven Erikson proportions at times). Barclay's rule seems to be when in doubt, throw in a massive battle sequence. However, the first few such battles seem a bit lacklustre. After about the halfway point they step up a gear and the final engagements are nailbitingly tense. Characterisation is interesting in what archetypes are applied to which positions (as mentioned before, the tax collector Paul Jhered emerges as the most sympathetic character in the book), but character development can be somewhat predictable. One major 'twist' is signposted from pretty much the second the character involved appears. The politics are also somewhat lacking in true depth and are rather unsatisfying in places, particularly in regard to the triangle of intrigue developing between the Advocate, the Marshal Defender of Caraduk and the Chancellor of the Order which had real promise but didn't really go anyway. I suspect this picks up a lot in the second novel though.
To some degree, the reservations are all moot. This book is a huge battle-filled, fast-paced blockbuster and on that level it succeeds admirably, enough to make me want to pick up the sequel at some point. The major complaint is the lack of a map. The military movements in the book are pretty intricate and geography and distance are quite important, but it's impossible to follow given the lack of a guide. Luckily, both the mass market paperback and the sequel do have one (buried in the back of the novel, Tolkien-style).
Cry of the Newborn (***½) is an enjoyable, page-turning and action-packed novel.
The mighty city of Estorr has expanded its power and influence over the surrounding kingdoms, forging over the course of 850 years a vast empire known as the Conquord. The supreme ruler of the Conquord, the Advocate, believes that the Empire must expand and conquer to survive. With the empire barely recovered from the subjugation of Atreska, and with bushfire wars along the northern border with the small kingdom of Omari continuing to rage, the Advocate ill-advisedly orders the Conquord's forces to march north-east into the vast neighbouring kingdom of Tsard.
Meanwhile, in the sleepy, isolated village of Westfallen on the Conquord's south coast, four infants are born, the product of five centuries of careful, selective breeding by the Echelon. As the years pass and they grow into adults, the full extent of their remarkable powers becomes clear. But some who learn of their existence consider them affronts to God, and religious fanaticism threatens them as much as the looming threat outside the Conquord's borders...
Cry of the Newborn is the first book of The Ascendents of Estorea, a duology which concluded with the recently-released Shout for the Dead. Although several plot strands are left dangling at the end of this opening volume, the novel is more or less self-contained.
James Barclay is best-known for his two trilogies concerning the mercenary band known as the Raven, which regrettably I haven't gotten around to reading. However, upon discovering a chunky trade paperback of Cry of the Newborn going for 99p in The Works, I decided to give it a go, and was pleasently surprised by it. This huge (850 pages in trade) volume depicts colossal battles (at least five I counted, as well as several huge naval engagements, an under-explored arena of fantasy combat), impressive sorcery and intricate politics. Barclay employs a mild revisionist streak in the novel. Instead of a medieval setting, the world is closely based on the Roman Empire. Magic is non-existent until the advent of the four Ascendents, and the reaction to its arrival is fairly realistic. One of the central characters is the Imperial tax collector (how the empire is funded is a major theme of the book). The Advocate, though not without flaws, is hardly the incompetent tyrant more traditional writers might reduce her to. Enormous armies traverse vast distances and, surprisingly, do have to deal with problems of supply lines, reinforcements, keeping their horses fed, equipment shortages etc.
The prose is pretty straightforward, though with flourishes of humour and tragedy at key points (the bodycount in this novel approaches Steven Erikson proportions at times). Barclay's rule seems to be when in doubt, throw in a massive battle sequence. However, the first few such battles seem a bit lacklustre. After about the halfway point they step up a gear and the final engagements are nailbitingly tense. Characterisation is interesting in what archetypes are applied to which positions (as mentioned before, the tax collector Paul Jhered emerges as the most sympathetic character in the book), but character development can be somewhat predictable. One major 'twist' is signposted from pretty much the second the character involved appears. The politics are also somewhat lacking in true depth and are rather unsatisfying in places, particularly in regard to the triangle of intrigue developing between the Advocate, the Marshal Defender of Caraduk and the Chancellor of the Order which had real promise but didn't really go anyway. I suspect this picks up a lot in the second novel though.
To some degree, the reservations are all moot. This book is a huge battle-filled, fast-paced blockbuster and on that level it succeeds admirably, enough to make me want to pick up the sequel at some point. The major complaint is the lack of a map. The military movements in the book are pretty intricate and geography and distance are quite important, but it's impossible to follow given the lack of a guide. Luckily, both the mass market paperback and the sequel do have one (buried in the back of the novel, Tolkien-style).
Cry of the Newborn (***½) is an enjoyable, page-turning and action-packed novel.
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Posted 16 September 2007 - 02:04 PM
I tried the first Barclay book about The Raven, Dawnthief and I thought it was so atrocious I couldn't finish it.
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#3
Posted 16 September 2007 - 02:28 PM
I read both dawnthief and cry of the newborn. Its a toss of the coin which is worse.
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Posted 17 September 2007 - 08:18 PM
I read the first Raven trilogy, and thought it was ok. I got halfway through the second trilogy and began seriously contemplating suicide. And then for some strange reason I made an effort at reading a Shout for the Dead. I think my nose just started bleeding again. I found it quite painful.
Thankfully RG was released just as I was halfway through the second page, which means my agony wasn't long lived.
Thankfully RG was released just as I was halfway through the second page, which means my agony wasn't long lived.
I want to die the way my dad died, peacefully in his sleep. Not screaming in terror like his passengers.
#5
Posted 18 February 2008 - 12:51 AM
I quite liked the first one but the second one was not good.
This is another Erikson recommendation which hasn't worked out
He has right on the ball with ICE and Kearney but Keck and Barclay have let his hit rate right down.
This is another Erikson recommendation which hasn't worked out

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"Try standing out in a winter storm all night and see how tough you are. Start with that. Then go into a bar and pick a fight and see how tough you are. And then go home and break crockery over your head. Start with those three and you'll be good to go."
- Bruce Campbell on how to be as cool as he is
- Bruce Campbell on how to be as cool as he is
#6
Posted 18 February 2008 - 01:03 AM
hmmm.. I read "cry of the Newborn not so long ago.
some spoilers below!!!!!
to me, it was interesting, with the war parts quite epic and well-written, and the two main questions it posed left enogh ambiguity in it that I enjoyed it
also, the issue of Ascendants--for some reason I looked at it not so much as "birth of magic" as did many others, but rather from the "unholy tempering with nature" aspect--something that echoes back to cloning stem cell research, genetic engineering and similar topics
I'm dissapointed to hear that "Shout for the dead" wasn't as good. I will probably still buy it, once it comes out in mmpb, but it's too bad that Barclay couldnt keep it up...
some spoilers below!!!!!
to me, it was interesting, with the war parts quite epic and well-written, and the two main questions it posed left enogh ambiguity in it that I enjoyed it
Spoiler
also, the issue of Ascendants--for some reason I looked at it not so much as "birth of magic" as did many others, but rather from the "unholy tempering with nature" aspect--something that echoes back to cloning stem cell research, genetic engineering and similar topics
I'm dissapointed to hear that "Shout for the dead" wasn't as good. I will probably still buy it, once it comes out in mmpb, but it's too bad that Barclay couldnt keep it up...
#7
Posted 18 February 2008 - 02:00 AM
I've read all but one of the The Raven books. The nicest thing I can say is that members of the cast die.
Hello, soldiers, look at your mage, now back to me, now back at your mage, now back to me. Sadly, he isn’t me, but if he stopped being an unascended mortal and switched to Sole Spice, he could smell like he’s me. Look down, back up, where are you? You’re in a warren with the High Mage your cadre mage could smell like. What’s in your hand, back at me. I have it, it’s an acorn with two gates to that realm you love. Look again, the acorn is now otataral. Anything is possible when your mage smells like Sole Spice and not a Bole brother. I’m on a quorl.
#8
Posted 18 February 2008 - 03:52 AM
Ascendants.....
any one else notice the increased frequency of this word in fantasy sence SE.
any one else notice the increased frequency of this word in fantasy sence SE.
You can't find me because I'm lost in the music
#9
Posted 18 February 2008 - 05:06 AM
Zanth13;259919 said:
Ascendants.....
any one else notice the increased frequency of this word in fantasy sence SE.
any one else notice the increased frequency of this word in fantasy sence SE.
lol, that was my first thought the moment i read the book synopsis...
#10
Posted 18 February 2008 - 07:15 AM
I got about 9/10 of the way through this book and then found something more interesting to read. I kept planning to go back and finish the last 50 pages, but just... can't... bring... myself to... garghghhghg.
It wasn't terrible, it was just too damn long. Barclay knows his Roman Empire very well, but he's not that great at writing interesting fantasy, imo.
It wasn't terrible, it was just too damn long. Barclay knows his Roman Empire very well, but he's not that great at writing interesting fantasy, imo.
Don't fuck with the Culture.
#11
Posted 19 February 2008 - 02:04 PM
Ive just read " Cry of the Newborn " it was a bit hard work and ive just ordered the seconf one " shout for the dead " but that was more due to a OCD i have of needing to finish any epic i start no matter haw horrendous. ( Sp)
Not handsome
Not handsome
"I think i was a bad person before. Before this time. I do not try to be good now but i am not bad. Perhaps if i try harder i may get a better hand dealt next time? But surely that makes it pointless? Perhaps i am good. Just good at being pointless. But that would make me bad. Bad at having a point. Ah…. I see now. I was nothing before, I am nothing now. I am bad purely because im pointless. "
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