[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

What did you think about Redmask's whip and axe? I thought they were interesting, but a little contrived. It did not seem they would be that effective or effecient in real life.

[caladanbrood]

It's hard to say, really. The axe, fine, because it was clearly only an "axe" in name, not in actuality.

The whip is rather harder... it seems unlikely to be effective in close combat, but you never know. It was stressed a number of times how incredably difficult to master the weapons were, so without the perfect technique they would be fairly ineffective.

[Mael]

Raymond Luxury Yacht;192706 said:

What did you think about Redmask's whip and axe? I thought they were interesting, but a little contrived. It did not seem they would be that effective or effecient in real life.

I thought that the Whip possessed a striking similarity to Cotillion's "Rope" with regard to how it is used and the effect it has on its victems.

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

i just thought it reallly woldn't work s advertised. And the axe would be more likely to killl the person using it than anyone else.

[tiam]

caladanbrood;192707 said:

It's hard to say, really. The axe, fine, because it was clearly only an "axe" in name, not in actuality.

The whip is rather harder... it seems unlikely to be effective in close combat, but you never know. It was stressed a number of times how incredably difficult to master the weapons were, so without the perfect technique they would be fairly ineffective.

I kinda imagined it as Leomans flails. Not incredibly effective unless mastered. It seems that his Cadoran whip took many years of practic although there is a scene in Drene were he beheads people

[Sir Bob]

i could be way of the mark here but did it not say in the book that they were made and mastered by the tribes ancestors for fighting the K'chain Che'malle. I dont have reapers gale on me so i cant check!

[Illuyankas]

Sir Bob;192870 said:

i could be way of the mark here but did it not say in the book that they were made and mastered by the tribes ancestors for fighting the K'chain Che'malle. I dont have reapers gale on me so i cant check!

Yep.

[tiam]

yeh it seems that because of the speed the whip slowe them down and they closed with the axe. Seems similar to those lassoo tactics by the greyswords

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

I'm just saying tha a whip with blades imbedded in it would perform like a whip anymore, and an axe with blades configured like his would pose a clear risk of disemboweling yourself when you swung it.

[Coco with marshmallows]

well, possibly, but it depends on the size of the blades and how they are placed. Could well end up with a similar weight adn handling to a chain whip, which still hurts like a ba****d when you get hit with it.

[Illuyankas]

Anyone played the Soul Calibur series? That's how I see the whip. But I'll admit that how SE described the axe just seems off to me. Someone whip up a quick diagram for me, or will I have to do it myself? Paint is accepted.

[Thelomen Toblerone]

The whip seems fine to me, and like a perfectly good idea for fighting the lethally quick KCCM- I imagine short, light blades attatched which would injure and temporarily disable the KCCM without affecting the maneuvrability of the whip much.

But I agree with you guys about the axe, Illy's right in that we need to see an accurate diagram to see whether it's feasible in combat.

[Terez]

Did y'all know that the whip was the first manmade object to break the sound barrier? Whipcrack=sonic boom. Too cool.

Yeah, that was random...

[tiam]

yeh it was. But still very interesting.

In any case the whip was said to have coin sized blades placed along its length so not that similar to Ivy from soul calibur although thats how i imagined it aswell. Cant remember much about the axe

[Thelomen Toblerone]

What type of coin though?

I mean say the spikes are 5p piece sized, or old 50p piece sized. That's a big difference (when you add it all together) and could affect the whips maneuvrability, surely?

[tiam]

OMG wat a question.

Id say that Awl dont have 5 pence pieces so around 2 pounb coin ish.

[BridgeBurner]

When speaking of coinshaped sharpened pieces of metal attached to the end of a whip, I don't think size matters, really...

[tiam]

not really but in Drene he decapitates some one so 5 pence pieces wouldnt really do it

[Abyss]

Point being, when talking about weapons specifically designed to fight super fast big lizards with blades on their hands (as opposed to sharks with lasers on their heads), 'conventional' fighting - swords, spears, etc - isn't going to work that well, as we saw when Gruntle and co took on the undead Kell in MoI. Tho apparently heavy spears managed to work for the Letherii, albeit with heavy casualties.

I agree that the descriptions of the axe were a bit unclear. My visual was of a weapon that could be used as a bigger, faster, stronger opponent runs by - ie: similar to how an infantry soldier standing alone might strike at a mounted opponent's horse after dodging the horseback attack. So the KC charges, the human ducks the sweep of the claws or blade, strikes with the axe as the KC runs by, and then gets the hell out of the way.

The whip could move fast enough to catch a KC arm or leg and foul balance/aim/an attack.

It's not that clear, but made sense to my mind. Faced with a massive super fast lizard charging at them, humans aren't going to stand and deliver - they're going to get the fnck out of the bloody way!

- Abyss, uses cream pies to similar effect.

[Skywalker]

Abyss;195488 said:

(as opposed to sharks with lasers on their heads)

:heyhey: "sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads!" Major Dr. Evil Deja Vu!!!

Woulda repped ya, but need to spread it around some!