[Aptorian]

Like Kaf09 wrote it's when Paran speaks with the wraiths surrounding the throne. They say something in the line of "a mortal sword that has died a hundred deaths" maybe it's a thousand, I don't remember the exact quote.

And remember it's not just his skills as a sword fighter that was growing by the end of MT. He was also getting magical powers and forgotten knowledge from the CG. If he truly has died many, many death's during the course of, say 5-10 or more years, he'll be a very big problem. He would be able to match even Anomander Rake's power I'd guess... and he'll be more batcrazy then Panion ever was.

Edit: What Hetan said above

[Lord of Salvation]

Do you think he still has any bitter thoughts about returning after he dies?

Also if he has died since, then why do the soldiers not know about it? Twilight didnt seem to think anyone could beat him, is that just cause they dont know he gets ressurected?

Also in the chance that someone kills him, only to have Rhuald return to life do they continue fighting soon after or call it quits?

[Onos]

Also in the chance that someone kills him, only to have Rhuald return to life do they continue fighting soon after or call it quits?[/QUOTE]

Good point. His 100 (1000?) deaths are the by 100 different champions or from 3 guys that killed him 30 times each... You would think he keeps fighting guys over since NOW he is fighting people in a controlled environment where the champions have little or no choice to keep going.

[Dolorous Menhir]

Lord of Salvation said:

Do you think he still has any bitter thoughts about returning after he dies?

Also if he has died since, then why do the soldiers not know about it? Twilight didnt seem to think anyone could beat him, is that just cause they dont know he gets ressurected?

Also in the chance that someone kills him, only to have Rhuald return to life do they continue fighting soon after or call it quits?

I think everyone will know about the Emperor being resurrected when he dies. Moroch Nevath killed Rhulad in the streets of Lether during the final stages of the battle. The mutilation scenes in the Throne Room hinged on Rhulad's ability to resurrect.

And they think he is invincible precisely because they know he will triumph, even if defeated in battle. I would suppose there are few people still around who can permanently destroy Rhulad, and obviously he has yet to encounter any of those...

[jwolfbro]

just one thing I think needs to be pointed out, and apologies if someone already said it, but the skill is in the sword. Not Rhulad. The Sword is being tempered by combat. Look at Rhulad's fight with the Preda (the one that was 2nd to Brys Beddict in Lether). The Sword knew the moves, had learned through combat and was basically pulling Rhulad's arm where it needed to be.

[Trotts]

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Also if he has died since, then why do the soldiers not know about it? Twilight didnt seem to think anyone could beat him, is that just cause they dont know he gets ressurected?

Also in the chance that someone kills him, only to have Rhuald return to life do they continue fighting soon after or call it quits?

I was under the impression that Twilight knew he got ressurected. Thats his power, thats why no one can defeat him. He keeps coming back.

Also, I personally think that they would have to continue fighting because Rhulad isnt eternally dead. Hes come back.

[Aptorian]

jwolfbro said:

just one thing I think needs to be pointed out, and apologies if someone already said it, but the skill is in the sword. Not Rhulad. The Sword is being tempered by combat. Look at Rhulad's fight with the Preda (the one that was 2nd to Brys Beddict in Lether). The Sword knew the moves, had learned through combat and was basically pulling Rhulad's arm where it needed to be.

Yes there is some confusion around that sword. In the fight with the Preda, the sword is described as almost being alive.

I've wondered if the sword wasn't just being powered up and ment for another person, but since we hear that Rhulad many years after MT still sits the throne, I'm sure he still has the sword.

[GardenGnome]

So... If Karsa kills Rhulad, and takes his sword, what happens?

Or, if Rhulad kills Karsa...

Either way, that's one nasty powerhouse.

[Aptorian]

Even dead I don't believe the sword leaves Rhulads hand(s). I guess you could carve the fingers of the sword but even then there's probably some kind of sorcery involved, maybe like Thors hammer, Mjølner.

[Abyss]

Unless Rhulad is placeholder boy, and the sword is MEANT for someone else. Like Karsa. The CG is pretty good at corrupting others to his cause. Every possibility he has some master plan for Karsa to run him 'back' to the Dark Side.

- Abyss, is your father.

[GardenGnome]

So, does Karsa still do his little soul-chainingtrick? I somehow see that as a very possible way of killing Rhulad - so the question is, which sould-chain thingy is the strongest, the CG's or Karsa's?

[Blend]

Just in regards to the whole clash within the House of Chains... I think it was always the CG's intention for such clashes to take place.

From MOI Trade Paperback edition, page 254:

"'Indeed, these are early days. Who, I wonder, will earn the right of King in my House? Unlike Hoood, you see, I welcome personal ambition. Welcome independent thought. Even acts of vengeance.'"

That'd be the CG talking to Gethol when he's offering him the position of Herald in the House of Chains. I don't think he plans on having much, if any, control over those in his House. He simply wants to use the house as another tool to create chaos in the world, to make people suffer, and so on... It all plays into his ultimate goal. If he allows for ambition, it makes those who hold positions in his house always strive to be better, so that they can never be bested... All in all, quite clever I think...

[BridgeBurner]

I really doubt Karsa would pick up Rhulad's sword, unless he wanted to put butter on a piece of bread. He prefers 2 handed blades, preferably fit to his size.

Consider the irony if Kallor got that sword though, him having his own issues with not dying and all...

[Onos]

I dont think Kallor would get any benefit from the sword. Since he cant die he cant come back to get stronger. Actually would be a pretty good way to negate the effects of the sword by forcing him to have it.

A better question might be does the power the sword has build up transfer to a new wielder? If i cut it form Rhulads hands do i reset it or start off as Uber fighter.

[Aptorian]

No no Kallor can indeed die, he is "just" cursed with mortal life unending. He can be killed he just doesn't die of old age even though time wears away on his body.

We don't really know what Kallor is capable of, besides him being a superb tactician and swordfighter. In MoI, when Rake tells Korlat to keep an eye on Kallor, he tells her to prepare the full power of the 1100 tiste andii warriormages. Korlat is taken aback by this since that amount of power could/would wipe out an entire continent. This is of course a security procedure made because of Rakes suspecions about Kallors true power.

So, Kallor is not invulnerable, but if Rakes hunch is right, he is extremely tough... maybe a loophole in the curse he was given.

Edit: I would like to repeat, unless something shifts between the CG and Rhulad, you can not just pick up the sword when Rhulads dead body hits the floor. You'd have to carve the fingers of the sword and even then it sounds a bit too easy, doesn't it?

[Illuyankas]

If it is channelled through the sword only, then likely the next owner could use it's current power. But, if the reason Rhulad has to die so many times is to build up enough resistance in his body for the sword to channel as much power as possible through him, then whoever takes the sword next would have to start off from the beginning, before they can achieve that level of resistance. So it'd reset.

[Abyss]

I'm not so sure the rules that apply to recharging a cordless razor apply to big frikkin magic swords. It does whatever the CG wants it to do.

I've wondered tho' - it certainly seems like the shards of other swords worked into Rhulad's sword are from Silchas's broken swords seen in the MT prologue. And the sword does seem to give Rhulad command of the wraiths, but so what, the Edur had that already. So why give chunks of Andii weapon to an Edur?

- Abyss, bzzzzzzzzz

[tiam]

Lol i thought it was wrong. Its definitely Andii spirits. I was thinking maybe they were from Scabbys dagger?