[Illuyankas]

It's quasi-SE approved!

[Illuyankas]

Well considering that Lether is a forest-filled distant southeastern continent occupied by Edur, it's a lot more likely than Assail, at least at first...

...until you consider that all the Edur were said to have died out at the Moranth's forests. The Lether Edur are very much alive. So Assail is looking better.

[Illuyankas]

Illuyankas said:

I was rereading MOI again, and at the part where Itkovian and Cafal are talking about the Edur they describe the home location of the Moranth and the previous place of the Edur as a distant continent southeast of the continent of Genabackis. "A land...of giant firs and redwoods and spruce - a forest unbroken, its feet hidden in shadow and peopled with deadly wraiths." Check the map - it's Assail. Maybe the Assailians have munitions as well as the quality ability of forging with sorcery we equate with the Tiste's? Human descendants of the friendly Edur-taught inhabitants seems pretty logical to me.

From earlier in the thread.

EDIT: Sorry, missed the first part of Itkovian's speech.
"...there are stories of a distant continent in the direction you have indicated."

Second EDIT: You know what? Page 442, trade paperback, MOI.

[Illuyankas]

Cool. Remember kids, rereads are your friends! Buy a new copy every time you finish the old one!

[Murrin]

Whoops, sorry, deleted my post. For reference: I said that I thought the Edur who died out were the ones who came to live in the forest on Genabackis with the Moranth.

To continue:

It seemed as though the story went: The (pre-) Barghast sailed from their old lands, along with a few Thelomen. They spent a long, long time on the seas, where they met and fought with Edur, apparently still in their empirical, expansionist stage. Some of the (pre-) Barghast did not want to fight with the Edur, and instead talked with them and learned from them. The two groups split - the Edur-friendly ones moved into the forest along with a number of Edur, and continued trading with the Edur from overseas. Over time they became the Moranth, with Barghast (Imass + Toblakai?) and Edur blood. The Edur themselves lost contact with their fellows (the final loss of Empirical aspirations and devolution into insular tribal society?) and gradually died out, leaving the Moranth alone with what they had learned.

Which tells us nothing about the Edur's homeland, or, more to the point, the world map.

[Illuyankas]

Well, it was meant to be a possible description of Assail - covered in thick shadowy forests -using evidence from the world map.

[Murrin]

Of course. I was referring to the irrelevance of my own post, on the history of the Moranth.

[Illuyankas]

Fair enough. That was just me being self-centred

[madala]

6 vs 7.

Stratem is a sub-continent of Korelri, thus it should be joined to Korelri on the map (just like the sub-continent of India is joined to Asia .

Hence there are indeed 6 continents, and no need for land bridges between Quon Tali and 7 Cities.

One thing that does puzzle me a bit is that the tundra area of Lether appears to be pretty much on the Equator. How the hell does even a Jaghut induced ice-cap manage to survive ?!

[Abyss]

madala said:

... How the hell does even a Jaghut induced ice-cap manage to survive ?!

Magic, obviously.

- Abyss, now watch me pull a rabbit out of my...

[Werthead]

The Continent Numbering Problem:

1) Seven Cities (including the larger continent it is joined to)

2) Quon Tali

3) Genabackis

4) Korelri (including Stratem)

5) Lether

6) Assail

7) Jacuruku

You see the discrepency? The only way it really works is if Quon Tali and Seven Cities are counted together for some reason.

Also the ice-sheets on Lether and Quon Tali are probably maintained by magic. If they were originally created by magic and just left alone, then natural forces would indeed have melted them by now. However, the magic must be self-sustaining somehow. Maybe something as simple as multiple gates into Omtose Phellack just left open for all this time, perpetually freezing the area around them?

[madala]

Oops, can't count !

Here's another crazy one. I think that continental drift averages out at around 1cm/year, so over the course of 100K years, one would get a drift of 100 kms
Probably not enough however (LOL)

[Oceao]

I just finished Bonehunters last night and can visit this forum once again. Low and behold, a world map. Thanks a lot for spending time to make this, its appreciated.

[Aptorian]

madala said:

Oops, can't count !

Here's another crazy one. I think that continental drift averages out at around 1cm/year, so over the course of 100K years, one would get a drift of 100 kms
Probably not enough however (LOL)

I don't know if I'm missing something here but a quick calculation in my head makes that 1 km, not 100 kms

But of course who says the tectonicplates only move 1 cm per year?