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The Lord of High Diction

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Posted 10 April 2006 - 03:50 PM

That's what the commander of the grey helms calls QB. Upon which QB mutters "****". Any ideas on that one?
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Posted 10 April 2006 - 04:00 PM

Kalam calls him it, after he swears. It's a joke.
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Posted 10 April 2006 - 04:00 PM

It was Kalam and i think he was taking the piss
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Posted 10 April 2006 - 04:03 PM

Yeah, of course, but why does QB say **** when the grey helm guy smiles and bows at him. It's recognition, no?
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Posted 10 April 2006 - 04:08 PM

I'm also unsure on that. I think it's probably part of his whole doesn't-like-to-be-noticed thing - he doesn't want people to pay much attention to him, because attention means risk. When the Destriant addresses him, it shows they know who he is, which is bad in his eyes, because it means they might expect things of him.
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Posted 10 April 2006 - 04:16 PM

Like a big huge Hole to transport an entire Navy
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Posted 10 April 2006 - 04:19 PM

Ivan the terrible said:

Like a big huge Hole to transport an entire Navy


??????
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Posted 23 May 2006 - 07:33 PM

Well I just bumped this back up.
The Lord of High Diction. This really made me wonder. The thing is, it was kalam who said it so it's probably just some BB joke but i looked the word Diction up any way, and it doesn't make much sense.

"Diction - the manner of enunciating words and sounds."

Well, english isn't my first language but what's this suppose to mean. Is kalam just refering to QB's elusive slipperiness? Or is there some kind of use of the word I'm unfamiliar with? I dont have a huge Oxford dictionary.
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Posted 23 May 2006 - 07:37 PM

I think in this sense diction could be better defined as 'the choice of words'. With that in mind, the joke makes more sense.

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Posted 23 May 2006 - 07:41 PM

Boy, talk about overanalyzing the joke...

The joke is funny, but like a lot of Erikson's humor, it goes over some people's heads. Lets' just leave it at that.
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Posted 24 May 2006 - 07:21 PM

Without having the book infront of me, I believe that Kalam is making a quip concerning Ben's lack of eloquence. The Grey Helm pays him great respect, as if he is a man of prestige, an equal even, and all Ben can do is respond like an uncouth sailor. Kalam found that funny.
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Posted 24 May 2006 - 07:28 PM

Well I found it very funny... QB muttering "oh sh**" and Kalam taking the piss out of him... I love Erikson's humour :(
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Posted 24 May 2006 - 07:42 PM

Diction probably isn't the appropriate word... but QB used it moments before : he recognizes the diction of the Grey Helms. So Kalam is just using his own words against QB...

I just loved the whole coward-QB show - when he's hiding from Tavore among the cargo... :(
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Posted 24 May 2006 - 07:44 PM

Well the Grey Swords had a very formal way of speaking.. and so did the Grey Helms.. a precise diction :(
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Posted 06 July 2006 - 07:18 PM

High diction= eloquent phrasing and general articulate use of language.

Mono syllabic curse words such as **** are not High Diction

That was the joke. Not too difficult
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Posted 06 July 2006 - 10:13 PM

This has been one of the most entertaining threads I've read lately...

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Posted 07 July 2006 - 02:11 AM

dic·tion
n.

1. Choice and use of words in speech or writing.
2. Degree of clarity and distinctness of pronunciation in speech or singing; enunciation.
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Posted 07 July 2006 - 04:15 PM

Really? I figured it was a sideways reference to QB's mad skillz with the ladies, because... oh, wait, nevermind... forget i said anything... :D

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Posted 07 July 2006 - 05:20 PM

I think it might be a foreshadowing of a new house in the Deck of Dragons, High House Diction.

Hellian as queen, anyone?
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Posted 07 July 2006 - 06:06 PM

Heh... Eloquent Wyval must needs be one of the seats.

- Abyss, was playing with 'loquai wyval' there, in case someone missed it...
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