[Imperial Historian]

the only 100,000 figure I could find refers to the numbers of the Merude tribe

'Largest of the six tribes, the Merude had been the last to capitulate. They had always maintained that, with their numbers approaching one hundred thousand, forty thousand of which were blooded or soon-to-be-blooded warriors,' (MT, UK HC, p.27)

From that ratio, we have just under half of society as warriors... so of the 420,000, 160,000-200,000 would be warriors.

[Asandir]

Just a thought on why they never got around to perish or even letherii.
Dassem Ultor killed/dissappeared at Aren, Kellanved and Dancer murdered. I,d say things gotta bit hectic for poor ol Laseen....what with all those rebellions poppin up, she never thought to check out further off the continent.
Feel free to discuss

[Cause]

actualy I had never thought before that it was strange that they never continued the onquest. I guess because we never knew how much was out their before. But it seems odd for the empire to wage war on korel or genebackis across oceans when they could mop up whats left of 7 cities on which they already have a major toe hold

It also strikes me as odd that malaz empire should want to conquer korell and its stormwall. why take on that kind of responsibility. That said I hope we get to see this wall, sounds intresting

and going back to the edur nukbers. I remeber anti-preda twilight looking at an edur fleet and surmising a 100k warrors were attacking and so she surrundered yet that was only one of three edur prongs of invasion. i guess its possible not evryone on the ships was warriors but? I wonder hat ever happened to that fort that managed to resist them

[graller]

I had no trouble with the Perish. Clearly they were taking the "classic" long view of things we see lots of people take in the Malazon universe. They have prepared a portal to their warren for 2 years and clearly they know what they are up against next "The 14th is not going to be enough". Why would only the Malazans of all the people on the planet be concerned about the upcoming war between the gods. Its fairly certain if Burn dies everyone does. This provides a certain amount of motivation at least in my mind

[Morgoth]

as to the stormwall, it directly protects the centre of the malazan empire from invasion by the stormriders, so I can easily see why they wanted to control it themselves

[Cause]

the stormwall protects koreli. Ho does that protect the empire. Also we dont know the stromriders want to conquer the whole world. maybe they used to live in korel or something

[tiam]

any theoris on the storm riders? If ne1 has read NOK then theyll have a better idea. Ive read NOK and the last lines of the book just confused me utterly

[Shield Anvil]

"Riders, Murl and his fellow pilots called them. Sea-demons and Stormriders to others. Beings of sea and ice who claimed this narrow cut as their own and suffered no trespasss. Only his Jakatan forbearers (seems to be a grammatical error) knew the proper offerings to bribe the swiftest passage south of Malaz Isle." ((NOK, PSP hc pgs. p3,4)

this seems to indicate not, but they could be.

[tiam]

in NOK i claims that no one knows and that with there ties to ice that they are of jaghut origins. i think there some ice under the sea. TBH although i have NOK i wasnt that impressed by it and have only read it onece. after BH reread i may go back to it

[Shield Anvil]

I need to read it too, and Blood Follows.

[tiam]

blood follows is sed to have a few greymane related facts and korelri info but other than that just a novella. if you could only buy one id suggest NOK although i havent read the other 2

[Shield Anvil]

Ok, thanks for the advice. The problem is findinf the books, other than tMBotF nothing from SE or ICE commes to Sweden, it'll be shipping for me.

[tiam]

yeh i got mine of amazon 25 quid

[graller]

NOK Spoilers:

Spoiler

It is implied the Storm Riders are alien and were summoned to this world by a Jaghut trapped in the Deadhouse to free her from the Azath. They are clearly Ice aspected and very powerful sorcerors. At the end of the novel there is a hint that it might not be that simple but it suffices.

ModEdit: The spoiler function is very easy to use you know.. Just write [.spoiler][./spoiler].. Goes for you too, tiam

[tiam]

Nok Spoiler

Spoiler

yes that they are alien beings that are jaghut aspected but did ne1 notice the other reference that jaghut are on malaz island with the mention nachts and how they were jaghut made? Also i havent read NOK in a while so was there a load of jaghut ice under the sea. i cant remember