Malazan Empire: Resolutions... *potential SPOILERS* - Malazan Empire

Jump to content

  • 3 Pages +
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Resolutions... *potential SPOILERS*

#21 User is offline   Illuyankas 

  • Retro Classic
  • Group: The Hateocracy of Truth
  • Posts: 7,254
  • Joined: 28-September 04
  • Will cluck you up

Posted 05 March 2006 - 01:31 AM

If only Icarium had dialogue when berserk... "Ikky STAB! Stab stab stab! STAB!"

What if Ruin, Dassem, Osserc, Menadore, Lore, the other one, Bloodeye in Fear's body and the Deragoth all came as well... Not to mention Spite, Envy and of course the most powerful person there, Kruppe. Lether go bye-bye...
Hello, soldiers, look at your mage, now back to me, now back at your mage, now back to me. Sadly, he isn’t me, but if he stopped being an unascended mortal and switched to Sole Spice, he could smell like he’s me. Look down, back up, where are you? You’re in a warren with the High Mage your cadre mage could smell like. What’s in your hand, back at me. I have it, it’s an acorn with two gates to that realm you love. Look again, the acorn is now otataral. Anything is possible when your mage smells like Sole Spice and not a Bole brother. I’m on a quorl.
0

#22 Guest_Nobody really ..._*

  • Group: Unregistered / Not Logged In

Posted 05 March 2006 - 01:41 AM

Illuyankas said:

If only Icarium had dialogue when berserk... "Ikky STAB! Stab stab stab! STAB!"

What if Ruin, Dassem, Osserc, Menadore, Lore, the other one, Bloodeye in Fear's body and the Deragoth all came as well... Not to mention Spite, Envy and of course the most powerful person there, Kruppe. Lether go bye-bye...


but that's the point isn't it?

the convergence is going to happen in Lether
0

#23 User is offline   Illuyankas 

  • Retro Classic
  • Group: The Hateocracy of Truth
  • Posts: 7,254
  • Joined: 28-September 04
  • Will cluck you up

Posted 05 March 2006 - 01:49 AM

Unless after a brief skirmish everyone decamps to Korel or Jacuruku for the final books, where the convergence happens for real. But I doubt SE's going to wait that long.
Hello, soldiers, look at your mage, now back to me, now back at your mage, now back to me. Sadly, he isn’t me, but if he stopped being an unascended mortal and switched to Sole Spice, he could smell like he’s me. Look down, back up, where are you? You’re in a warren with the High Mage your cadre mage could smell like. What’s in your hand, back at me. I have it, it’s an acorn with two gates to that realm you love. Look again, the acorn is now otataral. Anything is possible when your mage smells like Sole Spice and not a Bole brother. I’m on a quorl.
0

#24 Guest_Nobody really ..._*

  • Group: Unregistered / Not Logged In

Posted 05 March 2006 - 01:51 AM

I don't think he's got the time to move the party destination.

The invites have already been sent. :)
0

#25 User is offline   Mithfanion 

  • Lieutenant
  • Group: Malaz Regular
  • Posts: 128
  • Joined: 08-November 05

Posted 05 March 2006 - 09:45 AM

What if Ruin, Dassem, Osserc, Menadore, Lore, the other one, Bloodeye in Fear's body and the Deragoth all came as well... Not to mention Spite, Envy and of course the most powerful person there, Kruppe

Bloodeye in Fear's body? Please explain.

It's interesting to note that we already know that Silchas Ruin and Anomandaris are in Reaper's Gale. Turns out from TBH that Icarium and Karsa are heading there as well. Now, it would be nice if Dassem/Traveller would finally show up after all these books, and add him to the mix. Which IMO just leaves Osseric to make it a truly complete, wonderful whole :)

BTW do we ever learn who the Deragoth's "Master" was in the days when the T'rolbarahl lived, as mentioned in the prologue, the tricky one who was responsible for snaring the D'ivers demon?
0

#26

  • Group: Unregistered / Not Logged In

Posted 05 March 2006 - 09:58 AM

Quote

Bloodeye in Fear's body


I think it refers to a theory that was posted a while ago... if Scabandari's spirit still lives, it will need a body. It was proposed that he may occupy Fear's.
Not sure about that myself, dunno that ascendant's need corporeal bodies at all....
0

#27 User is offline   Lister of Smeg 

  • King of High House Smeg
  • Group: Malaz Regular
  • Posts: 542
  • Joined: 10-January 03
  • Location:Cirencester. Ever heard of it?

Posted 05 March 2006 - 10:25 AM

OK, so we have Icarium, Karsa, Rhulad, Silchas, Kruppe, Rake, Fear, Mappo and a whole host of others duking it out. What would happen next? Fiddler would come along with a couple of cussers and blow them all up. Game over. Fiddler wins.
Avoid being seen as racist by saying, "I'm not a racist, but ..." prior to making a racist comment.
0

#28 User is offline   Mithfanion 

  • Lieutenant
  • Group: Malaz Regular
  • Posts: 128
  • Joined: 08-November 05

Posted 05 March 2006 - 11:10 AM

That would probably be the most boring resolution probable :)
0

#29 Guest_Garm_*

  • Group: Unregistered / Not Logged In

Posted 05 March 2006 - 12:36 PM

To threadjack the whole "how does the series end?" party:

Do we have any news concerning:

Fener?
Whether or not Hood is Jaghut (or anything else about him)?
Tool/Kilava?
the Toblakai culture (both Thelomen und Tarthenal(sp?)?
Toc the Younger?
Baudin?

If we have please spoil me! :)
0

#30 User is offline   Morgoth 

  • executor emeritus
  • Group: High House Mafia
  • Posts: 11,448
  • Joined: 24-January 03
  • Location:the void

Posted 05 March 2006 - 01:46 PM

hehe, I spose such question would do better in a thread of their own.. Or you could just search for the answers through the search function here. Most of those have been discussed to extreme levels in the past;)
Take good care to keep relations civil
It's decent in the first of gentlemen
To speak friendly, Even to the devil
0

#31 Guest_Garm_*

  • Group: Unregistered / Not Logged In

Posted 05 March 2006 - 06:22 PM

Morgoth said:

hehe, I spose such question would do better in a thread of their own.. Or you could just search for the answers through the search function here. Most of those have been discussed to extreme levels in the past;)


Well, I meant specifically in TBH. :)
0

#32 User is offline   Use Of Weapons 

  • Soletaken
  • View gallery
  • Group: Malaz Regular
  • Posts: 2,237
  • Joined: 06-May 03
  • Location:Manchester, UK
  • Interests:Writing. Martial arts. Sport. Music, playing and singing, composition.

Posted 05 March 2006 - 10:07 PM

Garm said:

Fener?
Whether or not Hood is Jaghut (or anything else about him)?
Tool/Kilava?
the Toblakai culture (both Thelomen und Tarthenal(sp?)?
Toc the Younger?
Baudin?


From my reading (so please correct me if I missed anything):

Fener: nada (except the status quo is maintained)
Tool/Kilava: nada
Toblakai culture: nada. Don't think this really means anything, as the only Toblakai culture that's important these days is the Teblor remnant. We get a mention of the Toblakai warren, but that's it.
Toc: Nada
Baudin: Confirmed (again) as Knight of Death, but doesn't appear in TBH

Rob
It is perfectly monstrous the way people go about nowadays saying things against one, behind one's back, that are absolutely and entirely true.
-- Oscar Wilde
0

#33 Guest_Nobody really ..._*

  • Group: Unregistered / Not Logged In

Posted 05 March 2006 - 11:12 PM

jitsukerr said:

Toblakai culture: nada. Don't think this really means anything, as the only Toblakai culture that's important these days is the Teblor remnant. We get a


Just to remind, (when the destraint of the grey helms studies the sillandra) we do get more hints of some long dead glorious Toblakai civilisation which is now forgotten.
We get told that certain Toblakai individuals used to have an 'ability' to become a form of walking mini warren. This pretty much implies that Karsa has gained this ability despite not 'using' warrens/magic in a traditional sense.

We're told that this natural ability of the Toblakai was limited to a few but that by the time the Toblakai civilisation starts to end it has become 'rare-er'

We're also told that there might be primitive Toblakai in Fenn, that there are half cast toblakai such as the trell and bargast.

And by implication we are told that no one knows about Karsa's people...
0

#34 User is offline   fan_83 

  • First Sword
  • Group: Malaz Regular
  • Posts: 680
  • Joined: 05-January 03

Posted 05 March 2006 - 11:30 PM

reagarding the toblakai: if they ingest blood oil the way they usually do, that means the magic they tap would have to be primitive or primal... i'm guessing they don;t use warrrens but more like spirits of the land... or perhaps their ancestor.. but looking at bellurdan... it would have ot be elder magic or unless the blood oil works as a sort of shield and cover... but i'm jsut babbling
0

#35 Guest_Nobody really ..._*

  • Group: Unregistered / Not Logged In

Posted 05 March 2006 - 11:32 PM

fan_83 said:

reagarding the toblakai: if they ingest blood oil the way they usually do, that means the magic they tap would have to be primitive or primal... i'm guessing they don;t use warrrens but more like spirits of the land... or perhaps their ancestor.. but looking at bellurdan... it would have ot be elder magic or unless the blood oil works as a sort of shield and cover... but i'm jsut babbling


no you're not babbling! :)

you're criticising my use of the word 'warren'. that's not babbling it's attention to detail!!!
0

#36 User is offline   tiam 

  • Ascendant
  • Group: Mott Irregulars
  • Posts: 3,948
  • Joined: 26-January 06

Posted 07 March 2006 - 11:50 AM

so form this assumption we can dtermine the origins of a few cultures.

fenn-blood degradation of toblakai (similar to the teblor but more degradation probably due to human breeding.)
trell- a mix of imass and toblakai. they are known as the survivng thread of imass blood and are refferred to having toblakai blood. Therefore this makes them wide like imass but big like toblakai. they are squat big people if that makes sense.
barghast- half imass and tartheno maybe? or just imass mixed with human to make them tall but wide
0

#37 User is offline   Tes'thesula 

  • High House My House
  • Group: Malaz Regular
  • Posts: 410
  • Joined: 09-June 05

Posted 07 March 2006 - 12:02 PM

On the Toblakai 'warren'...it doesn't neccessarily have to be spirit or 'earth' magic to work with the otataral...it could be Elder magic, which is known to work through otataral..
0

#38 User is offline   fan_83 

  • First Sword
  • Group: Malaz Regular
  • Posts: 680
  • Joined: 05-January 03

Posted 07 March 2006 - 02:57 PM

that is true.. but we know that the toblakai comes from the imass and the imass has no access to elder warrens... the oldest they have is tyr which is fire and maybe a branch of KT... so that crosses it off the list..
unless the toblakai have mastered the FA's method of warren...
0

#39 User is offline   Imperial Historian 

  • Master of the Deck
  • Group: Administrators
  • Posts: 7,883
  • Joined: 08-February 04

Posted 07 March 2006 - 03:05 PM

The imass have access to elder warren's the original warren of fire "Tellan" and the later warren of dust resulting form the ritual also clalled "Tellan" both fo which are certainly elder.

Also the Toblakai do NOT come from the imass, seem to have lived at the same time as the imass, and are specifically named as having elder magic by Tool in GotM and by kalam and a market seller in HoC.

Thyr is a human aspected warren.
0

#40 Guest_Dakkareth_*

  • Group: Unregistered / Not Logged In

Posted 12 March 2006 - 03:27 AM

Kalam's otataral sword is imbued with elder sorcery, wrought by Bellurdan ...
0

Share this topic:


  • 3 Pages +
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users