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Israel and Iran Looking close to hot!

#541 User is offline   Tiste Simeon 

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Posted Yesterday, 09:13 AM

In the words of SOAD: Why don't presidents fight the war, why do we always send the poor?

Shame the drummer turned out to be MAGA.
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Posted Yesterday, 11:25 AM

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An airstrike hit the industrial facilities of the Tabriz Petrochemical Complex, two semiofficial news outlets said, sparking a fire at the site in northwestern Iran early Monday. The strike is the latest in a string of attacks on Iran's critical infrastructure that have hit power plants, a water reservoir, steel production and universities.

https://www.nytimes....?smid=url-share


And Iran retaliated:

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A oil refinery in the northern Israeli city of Haifa was struck during an Iranian missile attack on Monday morning, according to Israel's fire and rescue service. [...] According to the fire and rescue service, falling shrapnel struck a large container containing fuel

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Wonder if that was shrapnel from an intercepted missile.

Markets may finally be starting to realize that the Iranian government is probably not going to let Trump chicken out:

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Will the Ayatollahs Chicken Out Is the New TACO

Markets have entered into a WACO reality: Will the Ayatollahs Chicken Out? Traders are concluding that they almost certainly won't

https://www.bloomber...-now-about-waco

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Posted Yesterday, 01:55 PM

The stock market seem to be buying Trump's bullshit about negotiations going "extremely well" and his claim that the Iranian government has agreed to almost all of his 15 demands... he's also calling the Iranian government "very reasonable".

Trump claimed before that Iran let ships through as a "favor" and a "gift" to him, but those were all ships bound to places like China, India, and Pakistan that they were planning to let through anyway and had nothing to do with Trump.

Now he's claiming that Iran is going to let more ships through as a show of "respect" to him, when in actuality these are almost certainly more ships bound for China etc that they were already planning to let through. More obvious bullshitting on Trump's part to try to calm markets.

Iran's parliament is set to vote on a bill that would allow for shipping to Japan and South Korea as well, but they've been negotiating those agreements with Japan and South Korea, not with Trump.

Recent public comments by Blackwater founder Erik Prince seem more realistic:

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Prince—who is described in MAGA circles as the "pre-eminent thinker on the military"—says he is "extremely concerned" about what might happen next. [...] "I don't share the optimism of the administration that there's going to be a peaceful stop to this," said Prince, who often acts as an unofficial adviser to Trump officials, with ties to the White House, the Pentagon, and the State Department.

"They will burn it down. And my real concern is that if they try to put boots on the ground and force the Strait of Hormuz, you will see imagery of burning American warships in the next couple of weeks. And I don't think people are really prepared for that.

"The U.S. military, for two years, tried to bomb the hell out of the Houthis and to open the Red Sea and the Bab-el-Mandeb, and it didn't work," he continued. Bab-el-Mandeb is another key shipping channel.

"And to think we're going to force that on the IRGC that's prepared for this moment for 46 years?" [...] Prince made the point that Iran had 31 military districts, all led by commanders with orders to continue waging war against America.

The only person that could countermand that order, he said, is the nation's new Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei, who "understands blood oath" and has vowed revenge after "we killed his father, his wife, his sister, and other family members."


Donald Trump Ally Erik Prince Predicts Total Disaster for U.S. if War Escalates - The Daily Beast

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Posted Yesterday, 02:49 PM

UN guy Mohamed Safi apparently resigned so he could warn everyone that the UN is talking about what to do in the event that Israel or the US uses a Nuke on Tehran...the fact that this is even being discussed makes me sick to my stomach.

10million people live and work in Tehran.

And the scary thing is I have a DECENT gut feeling that even if the US or Israel did this, that no one would actually step in to stop them...like nothing would change. The Epstein files would not change things, and I don't know that a nuke killing tens of millions would either...I realize that's nihilistic, but the last decade has shown me that no one is stopping ANY of these fucking madmen from doing anything, so why should nuclear death and fallout be different...? We live in a captured world with a few utterly evil people running the show...
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Posted Yesterday, 06:52 PM

I can’t fathom a reality were anyone is seriously considering nukes. We can’t ever undiscovered the genie but we have so far surprisingly done a good job of putting it back in the bottle. Once that reality changes the world changes forever. It won’t be done when the homeland isn’t even threatened.

I can see why the WHO or UN might drill for it, it’s literally there job to do so. That doesn’t mean the likelihood has moved significant closer.
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Posted Yesterday, 07:01 PM

I'm not putting nuclear warfare past this group of incompetent and evil people. That's an extremely grim thing to say and contemplate, yet just about every single norm and good thing that people think that they won't do - they blow right by and do the evil thing.

They are attacking what it means to be a citizen or lawful resident, put secret police out to beat, maim, and murder people, stealing money from agencies to fund the secret police and X number of other horrid things, cut foreign aid off which has probably killed tens of thousands already via neglect and disease - this will kill many more soon, deposed Maduro, are aggressing into Iran, talking about actions in Cuba, and more.

And the president is all over the place because he actually has dementia of some sort and is being run by various people who take turns doing evil things with scant regard to what not being evil is.

There are vital acts of resistance, organization, and opposition happening. There are places, people, and times of joy still. This is not hopeless, but putting an upper bound on how bad things can get is a futile act with this pack of scumbags.

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Posted Yesterday, 10:10 PM

 Cause, on 30 March 2026 - 06:52 PM, said:

I can’t fathom a reality were anyone is seriously considering nukes. We can’t ever undiscovered the genie but we have so far surprisingly done a good job of putting it back in the bottle. Once that reality changes the world changes forever. It won’t be done when the homeland isn’t even threatened.

I can see why the WHO or UN might drill for it, it’s literally there job to do so. That doesn’t mean the likelihood has moved significant closer.


Trump literally said “why don’t we use them if we have them”


And no one can stop him if he does. No one. The rules are the SecDef has to make sure it’s Trump giving the order and that’s it…the only thing after tha which would stand in the way is a military commander ignoring orders.


I’ just saying it’s far more possible now than in the past. He’s that much of a POS.

And there are really no safeguards against him doing it…like the nuclear football is SURPRISINGLY devoid of any fences to a president deciding to use one. There was just not a president till now that acts like if he doesn’t get what he wants he will take the rest of us with him…actually it makes quite a bit of sense he’s on side with an evil fucking warmonger like Netanyahu.

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Posted Yesterday, 10:28 PM

Also Let’s not pretend that the more unstable of the two isn’t Israel…we have no idea what safeguards exist for them doing their option…becuase they refuse to admit to the global community what nukes they have and what safeguards are in place for a leader to use them or not use them…but let’s let them keep it a secret from the rest of us right? The genocidal regime in charge there clearly values human life don’t they?
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