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Great Intellectuals, Good Debates

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Posted 20 November 2023 - 08:48 PM

Something I really enjoy listening to on youtube when I have some free time or am doing some chores is listening to experts debate or maybe just soliloquy on subjects. Sometimes I learn something interesting or am exposed to an idea which I didnt previously know or dont always agree with but its good to be exposed to a different view. Its probably a good thing to have your own beliefs or convictions shaken now and then.

A while ago I discovered Christopher Hitchens. Man is incredibly erudite and well spoken and while he and I agree on some things like religion he sometimes has beliefs that run counter to mine. He never fails to express them well though and you have to at least consider his view. This is a really good debate of him and Stephen Fry (who also is excellent in this) debating if the catholic church is a force for good in the world. TBH I feel this debate was a bit of a mismatch as their opponents a former British politician and a catholic cardinal are not professionals scholars and debaters which is essentially what Christopher Hitchens became.

Jordan Peterson: What can I say I do not like this guy. I knew of him and heard of his baggage but was suprised when a women I was dating told me her psychologist recommended some of his books to her to help her deal with her past relationships was abusive. I was suprised by this since I understood his priamry cause of fame was in being a kind of motivational speaker for young men. So I got curious and listened to him for a while. For me, he comes across as an man who tries very hard to hide behind an aura of intellectualism. If he can seem smart enough and reasoned enough than surely what he is saying is profound. Not to say he is a fool but I find him inconsistent and often more flash than substance.

Ricahrd Dawkwins: I enjoy his knowledge and insights in evolution which I do believe in and I enjoy his thoughts on religion which we often share. I feel that he sometimes comes across as unnecessarily hostile to religion, which for the most part seems to be something that Christopher Hitchens for example who while clearly against religion seems to manage to avoid.

I can now easilly fall into the trap of listing many speakers who Richard Dawnkins and Chrstipher Hawkings clearly often interacted with in their circles. Sam Harris, Douglas Murray, Salman Rushdie etc. So in an efforts to expand to a wider field of topics and some new ideas and thoughts I havent heard before I thought I would ask you for any of your recommendations.

Of course with a debate you get the opposing view point but I also notice you tend to get recommended debates that 'your side' wins because of the nature of the algorithm. Youtube and Instagram and any other such website shoudl allow you to create secondary accounts where you can input model personalities and see what the algorithm would recommend for such a person or they should allow you to create a clean slate every few months. It would be interesting to be able to switch between republican/Democrat, left/right, younger/older viewpoints for example. I suspect it would be very interesting for example if you could have X for example show you a particualr politicians algorithms feed for example but I digress.

I also noted recently that I have an aversion to anyone who speaks overly impassioned. I realise I have an aversion to anyone who speaks overly loud or emotionally when they debate. Strangely this is the opposite effect intended by such displays and I suspect I may be a minority. There are degrees to this though I suppose and I also often feel that some people have an advantage or disadvantage based soley on the sound of their voice.

So please share any debate in particular you find noteworthy on any topic, or just any person who you think its interesting to listen to.
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Posted 20 November 2023 - 09:57 PM

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Posted 25 November 2023 - 07:36 PM

I'd definetly reccomend the munk debates.

https://munkdebates....l-intelligence/

A free account gets you access to their entire archive of debates.

I'd also reccomend
https://www.cbc.ca/l...adio/1-23-ideas

The ideas podcast. It's been on going for a few decades.

This post has been edited by LinearPhilosopher: 25 November 2023 - 07:38 PM

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