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Posted 30 October 2023 - 06:12 AM

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Apparently the latest book lands Monday.



View Postpat5150, on 29 October 2023 - 02:12 PM, said:

The one that she's self-publishing or something else?


That one. First in the final Essalieyan series I think.
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Posted 30 October 2023 - 01:55 PM

Nice! Won't have to wait when I'm done with the House War and the Sacred Hunt to jump right into the new one! :)
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Posted 30 October 2023 - 01:56 PM

HUNTER'S REDOUBT. The cover is on her website.
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Posted 30 October 2023 - 02:01 PM

View PostQuickTidal, on 30 October 2023 - 01:56 PM, said:

HUNTER'S REDOUBT. The cover is on her website.


that's the one.
the blurb i saw tied it back to her original Hunter' duology (y'know, the ones that are technically books 1 and 2, but not really, more like 15 and 16 only prologues, unless you read them between Sun Sword and House War, in which case they are 7 and 8, or between House War and Sun Sword in which case 9 and 10, or at the end in which case my head hurts why can't she just pick an order why gods why.....)
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Posted 30 October 2023 - 02:02 PM

Ordered the paperback version for $32. The hardcover is $93 because she's doing it herself through IngramSpark and that means print in demand and thus much pricier. I can't afford that, but I'm happy with the paperback as it will match the rest of my collection.
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Posted 30 October 2023 - 02:32 PM

View PostQuickTidal, on 30 October 2023 - 02:02 PM, said:

Ordered the paperback version for $32. The hardcover is $93 because she's doing it herself through IngramSpark and that means print in demand and thus much pricier. I can't afford that, but I'm happy with the paperback as it will match the rest of my collection.


I ordered the paperback too, except it was a few bucks cheaper for me. It should be here by Wednesday!
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Posted 01 November 2023 - 09:25 PM

Got my copy of HUNTERS REDOUBT….it’s gorgeous and it’s a beast!
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Posted 01 November 2023 - 10:28 PM

I saw that it's over a 1000 pages long. Given that it's not edited and that her edited novels were still often overwritten and repetitive, I'm wondering how this will affect the overall reading experience.

Need to get back on the House War horse so I can then jump to the duology so I can read this one! :)
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Posted 01 November 2023 - 11:16 PM

View Postpat5150, on 01 November 2023 - 10:28 PM, said:

I saw that it's over a 1000 pages long. Given that it's not edited and that her edited novels were still often overwritten and repetitive, I'm wondering how this will affect the overall reading experience.

Need to get back on the House War horse so I can then jump to the duology so I can read this one! :)


It’s edited….what are you on about? There are many “copy editing” posts on patreon.
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Posted 02 November 2023 - 01:40 AM

The copy edit is just for typos, etc.

In every book I've read so far, West talks about how great and invaluable Sheila Gilbert's input has been. It's going to be interesting to see if her absence can be felt West's indie works. As far as I know, the author hasn't hired a pro editor to go through the manuscript.
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Posted 02 November 2023 - 04:03 AM

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Got my copy of HUNTERS REDOUBT….it’s gorgeous and it’s a beast!


Is the paperback a trade or mass market?
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Posted 02 November 2023 - 11:57 AM

View Postpat5150, on 02 November 2023 - 01:40 AM, said:

The copy edit is just for typos, etc.

In every book I've read so far, West talks about how great and invaluable Sheila Gilbert's input has been. It's going to be interesting to see if her absence can be felt West's indie works. As far as I know, the author hasn't hired a pro editor to go through the manuscript.


No, she's got more than one person helping edit these books...she talks about more than typos.
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Posted 02 November 2023 - 11:58 AM

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View PostQuickTidal, on 01 November 2023 - 09:25 PM, said:

Got my copy of HUNTERS REDOUBT….it’s gorgeous and it’s a beast!


Is the paperback a trade or mass market?


Oh, its a trade paperback, matte coating on the cover, and a TIGHT perfect bound with a fold-crease for opening it...it's about as good a Trade Paperback as you can get quality-wise.
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Posted 02 November 2023 - 03:28 PM

View PostQuickTidal, on 02 November 2023 - 11:58 AM, said:

View PostJPK, on 02 November 2023 - 04:03 AM, said:

View PostQuickTidal, on 01 November 2023 - 09:25 PM, said:

Got my copy of HUNTERS REDOUBT….it’s gorgeous and it’s a beast!


Is the paperback a trade or mass market?


Oh, its a trade paperback, matte coating on the cover, and a TIGHT perfect bound with a fold-crease for opening it...it's about as good a Trade Paperback as you can get quality-wise.


Thank you for the confirmation. My copy is due in on Saturday.
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Posted 06 November 2023 - 04:40 AM

Starting it and realizing that I don't remember where any of the characters or plotlines left off at the end of War.
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Posted 06 November 2023 - 03:01 PM

I figure that West didn't include a "What has gone before" at the beginning of this new one.

Given that it's the culmination of three previous series, some dating from the 90s, that would have been for the best.
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Posted 06 November 2023 - 04:09 PM

View Postpat5150, on 06 November 2023 - 03:01 PM, said:

I figure that West didn't include a "What has gone before" at the beginning of this new one.

Given that it's the culmination of three previous series, some dating from the 90s, that would have been for the best.


To be fair, she's stated in a recent Patreon post that HUNTER'S REDOUBT acting like a late-game entry with so many new characters that it's been written in a way that would welcome readers who hadn't read what came before...so I'm expecting a sort of immersive "This is what came before" inside the text being espoused by characters? That's how it read to me anyways. I won't know till I get there.
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Posted 06 November 2023 - 09:53 PM

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View Postpat5150, on 06 November 2023 - 03:01 PM, said:

I figure that West didn't include a "What has gone before" at the beginning of this new one.

Given that it's the culmination of three previous series, some dating from the 90s, that would have been for the best.


To be fair, she's stated in a recent Patreon post that HUNTER'S REDOUBT acting like a late-game entry with so many new characters that it's been written in a way that would welcome readers who hadn't read what came before...so I'm expecting a sort of immersive "This is what came before" inside the text being espoused by characters? That's how it read to me anyways. I won't know till I get there.


Seeing as I'd even forgotten that
Spoiler
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Posted 02 December 2023 - 11:37 PM

About 300 pages into Firstborn and it's the best House War book thus far. You can truly feel that the end is nigh, so the shortcomings that plagued the previous installments have so far been mostly absent.

Looking forward to see if West can end this one on the same kind of high note she managed for the Sun Sword series. :)
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Posted 19 December 2023 - 07:01 PM

I enjoyed House Name quite a bit. Going from that to Broken Crown and the very 1997 writing is a bit of a stumble, but I will endeavor onward.
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