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Draconian family tree

#101 User is offline   Ellestra 

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Posted 29 March 2006 - 06:40 PM

Still my sibling makes it so personal.

Ah, well maybe I'm overthinking this.
It's just with Erikson you can never know - even the smallest detail can have repercussins later.
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Posted 29 March 2006 - 07:58 PM

well it is only one version of the tree .... there are three apparentley :p
depending on the release date for Reaper's Gale... and how bored we get with waiting......it may be possible to badger another version out of Kallor at some point.... :p
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#103 User is offline   Abyss 

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Posted 29 March 2006 - 09:30 PM

We should probably start now... :p

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Posted 22 April 2006 - 11:24 PM

I don't know if this has been addressed elsewhere, but in MOI I remember Ganoes Paran being told that there were dragons in Rake's sword, are these dragons counted as dead? As if they aren't then the warrens they represent are totally safe unless they are killed by something in the sword or they are released by the breaking of the sword.
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#105 User is offline   tiam 

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Posted 22 April 2006 - 11:44 PM

or choas catches up with the carriage. i beleive these to be half bloods as otherwise rake could possibly destroy th warrens. although technically they are safe.
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#106 User is offline   Ellestra 

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Posted 08 May 2006 - 07:24 PM

Abyss said:

We should probably start now... :)

- Abyss, starts shining up the brainz spoonz...


Yes, especially since in tBH we learn that
Spoiler

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#107 User is offline   Dark Mac 

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Posted 08 May 2006 - 07:28 PM

Moderate RG spoilers:

Spoiler

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#108 User is offline   Ellestra 

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Posted 08 May 2006 - 07:38 PM

Dark Mac said:

And in RG we learn that Phaed is Nimander's sister. Both of them are Envy's children.


Well thanks for the glimpse of the future. SPOILER

But since damage is done.

Do you know for sure which version is real?
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#109 User is offline   Dark Mac 

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Posted 08 May 2006 - 07:42 PM

Both are real. Envy slept with her son.

Sorry about the spoiler, I thought that the RG reading was common knowledge on the forum.
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#110 User is offline   Ellestra 

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Posted 08 May 2006 - 08:07 PM

Dark Mac said:

Both are real. Envy slept with her son.

Sorry about the spoiler, I thought that the RG reading was common knowledge on the forum.


Oh, OK, nevermind. I read all the spoilers anyway :)

But it still means that the tree is wrong - Phaed is not Amnomander's daugther.
Evolution, just like gravity, works even if you don't believe in it.

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#111 User is offline   Dolorous Menhir 

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Posted 08 May 2006 - 08:13 PM

The Family Tree was supposed to have been written by Baruk, and so is certainly fallible. I don't think all this incest talk is credible, SE hasn't hinted at anything of that nature yet. More likely the tree is just wrong.
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Posted 08 May 2006 - 08:16 PM

Ellestra said:

Oh, OK, nevermind. I read all the spoilers anyway :)

But it still means that the tree is wrong - Phaed is not Amnomander's daugther.


The tree also connects Osserc to Mother Dark.... while it mentions Osserc's motherlessness.
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Posted 08 May 2006 - 08:16 PM

Well it is supposed to be one of three ... according to our darling Kallor :)
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#114 User is offline   Dark Mac 

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Posted 09 May 2006 - 03:54 AM

Dolorous Menhir said:

The Family Tree was supposed to have been written by Baruk, and so is certainly fallible. I don't think all this incest talk is credible, SE hasn't hinted at anything of that nature yet. More likely the tree is just wrong.


SE certainly has hinted at incest. All the Oponn scenes are fraught with tremendous sexual tension.
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Posted 09 May 2006 - 06:57 AM

Of course there's hints at incest...
the scene between Osserc, Menandore and Sukhul

‘And what of you, Father? That she nightmare sails out on feathered wings from the dark of another realm, legs spread oh so wide and inviting, and were you not first in line? Pure Osserc, First Son of Dark and Light, so precious! Yet there you were,weaving your blood with that whore – tell us, did you proclaim her your sister before or after you ****ed her?’
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#116 User is offline   Dolorous Menhir 

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Posted 09 May 2006 - 09:24 AM

Well, I stand corrected.
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Posted 09 May 2006 - 10:11 AM

Hetan said:

Of course there's hints at incest...
the scene between Osserc, Menandore and Sukhul

‘And what of you, Father? That she nightmare sails out on feathered wings from the dark of another realm, legs spread oh so wide and inviting, and were you not first in line? Pure Osserc, First Son of Dark and Light, so precious! Yet there you were,weaving your blood with that whore – tell us, did you proclaim her your sister before or after you ****ed her?’


The censor thing s quite stupid. Even an SE quote is being asterisked away. Tsk.
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Posted 13 May 2006 - 07:36 AM

Wonders If any beings created from nothing share any genetic material after all the First Son/Son's of the Tiste's were created Dont think they were birthed But I could be wrong/Mis-remembering.
'Say old fella do ya SEE yon river'
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#119 User is offline   kayjin2 

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Posted 22 May 2006 - 09:49 AM

The link between Anomandaris and Envy is wrong, its supposed to Nimander Golit and Envy.
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Posted 22 May 2006 - 06:48 PM

If that part of the Tree is wrong (and Kallor admits to messing with it to mess with us) then the Bonehunters part is right, but if the Tree is correct on that part then Phaed and Nimander could be lying about it, possibly. All depends on that RG excerpt.
Hello, soldiers, look at your mage, now back to me, now back at your mage, now back to me. Sadly, he isn’t me, but if he stopped being an unascended mortal and switched to Sole Spice, he could smell like he’s me. Look down, back up, where are you? You’re in a warren with the High Mage your cadre mage could smell like. What’s in your hand, back at me. I have it, it’s an acorn with two gates to that realm you love. Look again, the acorn is now otataral. Anything is possible when your mage smells like Sole Spice and not a Bole brother. I’m on a quorl.
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