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Posted 03 July 2021 - 09:43 AM

Hello everyone, with the God is not willing being out i was wondering if there is going to be a group read for the novel



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Posted 03 July 2021 - 11:16 AM

It's normally a bit of a free for all and then we come together to dicuss if someone not lazy makes a discussion thread... plus there is the thread by Abyss but don't discuss further than where Abyss currently is in the book.

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Posted 04 July 2021 - 05:12 PM

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Posted 05 July 2021 - 02:12 AM

View Poststuwi, on 03 July 2021 - 09:43 AM, said:

Hello everyone, with the God is not willing being out i was wondering if there is going to be a group read for the novel



Per upthread nothing formal, but you can start your own or jump into one that's already going, mine by example but not exclusively.

As people finish the book the discussion picks up.
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Posted 08 July 2021 - 08:56 AM

I think I found a typo.

Damisk is apparently wandering around the Godswalk Mountains (according to the maps and the Wiki they are near the old Pannion Domin down in southern Genebackis) when the caribou migration starts and then he meets Rant. Who I'm fairly sure was in Silver Lake, waaaaaaay up north.
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Posted 08 July 2021 - 12:00 PM

 Tsundoku, on 08 July 2021 - 08:56 AM, said:

I think I found a typo.

Damisk is apparently wandering around the Godswalk Mountains (according to the maps and the Wiki they are near the old Pannion Domin down in southern Genebackis) when the caribou migration starts and then he meets Rant. Who I'm fairly sure was in Silver Lake, waaaaaaay up north.



I think this was noted on Erikson's Facebook way back. Apparently the Teblor and some local people refer to the Eastern Malyn Range as the Godswalk Mountains in their language. It's not related to the Godswalk Mountains of southern Genabackis.
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Posted 08 July 2021 - 12:30 PM

Sounds like a halfarsed attempted retcon to me. :p
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Posted 18 July 2021 - 08:14 AM

Really enjoying Nilghan, although when I've met people like his in real life they've rapidly pissed me off so I quickly learn to ration my time with them.

I guess it works in a book because I can do something similar by reading when I feel like it, and the POV changes give me a break as well. He does have a most entertaining turn of phrase though.

His back-and-forth with Gower and even Rant is gold.

Just came to a bit that makes me think of the house of chains - no, not the actual novel, but the group and it's premise.

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"Fortune favors the bold, though statistics favor the cautious." - Indomitable Courteous (Icy) Fist, The Palace Job - Patrick Weekes

"Well well well ... if it ain't The Invisible C**t." - Billy Butcher, The Boys

"I have strong views about not tempting providence and, as a wise man once said, the difference between luck and a wheelbarrow is, luck doesn’t work if you push it." - Colonel Orhan, Sixteen Ways to Defend a Walled City - KJ Parker
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Posted 19 July 2021 - 02:04 AM

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Posted 22 July 2021 - 11:45 AM

LOVE the "memoirs of Magistrate Ilgish the Torcher" at the start of Chapter 21! :rofl:
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Posted 23 July 2021 - 02:57 PM

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Posted 23 July 2021 - 03:03 PM

View PostTsundoku, on 22 July 2021 - 11:45 AM, said:

LOVE the "memoirs of Magistrate Ilgish the Torcher" at the start of Chapter 21! :rofl:


The chapter openers generally were pretty great in this book. Nice combo of info-hints (THE RISE OF THE MARINE LEGION!), on point poetry (Make my ending a whisper, let yours be a shout - Fisher kel Tath), and humour (almost everything from the Library of New Morn).
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Posted 23 July 2021 - 07:52 PM

Lol yah. I forget the exact quote but that one guy in New Morn who is too lazy to research his own supposition.
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Posted Yesterday, 11:40 AM

Well, wasn't that quite the finish! Thoroughly enjoyed. I'd put it on par with TBH, which means it's his best since HOC IMHO.

My two favourites: Definitely Nilghan and Gruff. The interaction between the various Marines - especially the heavies and Benger - was fun to read.
Nice to see Spindle get a lot more screen time and depth after he was underserved in books 1-3, although that was simply because it was a much bigger cast of POVs back then.
The leaner, more closely focussed story I think brought out the best in SE's writing.

Has SE delivered the next book to the publishers yet? If not, why not?
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Posted Yesterday, 03:10 PM

Loved TGINW! One of my favorites in the series so far.




I'm terrible with comprehension (esp w Malazan books) so some questions; hopefully they're not dumb ones.




  • What was the secret Elade and the other Teblor agreed to keep, in the prologue?
  • Why are there so many mages amongst the marines now? (seems like collective power creep). Was it just part of the misdirection (like the munitions) directed at Balk & co?
  • Did I misunderstand, or did Rant literally time-travel at the end to help War-Bitch divert the flood?
  • What was that weird warren with all the sky-keeps? And who was that crazy powerful chained god who (presumably) massacred the K'Chain?

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Posted Yesterday, 07:21 PM

- The secret Elade and the others with kept was that the ice was cracking and the sea was going to wash them all away. Probably kept secret to prevent a panic and only revealed at the right time (I'm guesing when the various alliances were made, which was off screen).
-It looked to me like the Marine Legion is simply made to be mage heavy.
-Yes, Rant time travelled.
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