[twelve]

IH. With the new public objective I'm now looking at trade. What are your thoughts on my trade agreement pn my racial pn and free refresh on trade for you racial?

[Tapper]

twelve, on 30 April 2021 - 06:09 PM, said:

Tapper, on 30 April 2021 - 05:53 PM, said:

twelve, on 30 April 2021 - 05:39 PM, said:

Nice Secret Tapper. Seems I helped you out by taking Rigel the opening Round.

A little, yes. There were other options, but this was the one where I figured I could keep the peace.

So are we good? My move was to just unlock my commander and I didnt want to destroy your carrier. I just needed a win.

We are OK. I will be a little suspicious of your proposals from now on, though (I am sure you'll understand ) but my main worry right now is IH and his Fleet of Death that has nowhere to go anymore yet keeps growing.

Also, I will have to move into Rigel again to occupy III and I am out of carriers in reach, so that will have to be a dread. Unlikely to be this round, though, especially if there's a Leadership stall.

[Tapper]

Galactic Council, on 30 April 2021 - 06:07 PM, said:

Tapper - don't forget to add your fulfilled SO to the Other section of your game post.

That goes there too? I thought the fulfilled/unfulfilled was enough. Will add.

[twelve]

Tapper, on 30 April 2021 - 07:38 PM, said:

twelve, on 30 April 2021 - 06:09 PM, said:

Tapper, on 30 April 2021 - 05:53 PM, said:

twelve, on 30 April 2021 - 05:39 PM, said:

Nice Secret Tapper. Seems I helped you out by taking Rigel the opening Round.

A little, yes. There were other options, but this was the one where I figured I could keep the peace.

So are we good? My move was to just unlock my commander and I didnt want to destroy your carrier. I just needed a win.

We are OK. I will be a little suspicious of your proposals from now on, though (I am sure you'll understand ) but my main worry right now is IH and his Fleet of Death that has nowhere to go anymore yet keeps growing.

Also, I will have to move into Rigel again to occupy III and I am out of carriers in reach, so that will have to be a dread. Unlikely to be this round, though, especially if there's a Leadership stall.

Fully understand and as far as the dread goes totally okay and frankly expected. The Leadership stall I think will hurt more than a few of us.

[D'rek]

And here I thought we could all band together to completely disassemble the villainous Mahact this round, splitting his systems between us in mutual gain and celebration.

[Imperial Historian]

twelve, on 30 April 2021 - 07:26 PM, said:

IH. With the new public objective I'm now looking at trade. What are your thoughts on my trade agreement pn my racial pn and free refresh on trade for you racial?

These offers seem to be consistently 2-3 TG less than I asked for and if anything are getting worse!

[Tapper]

D, on 30 April 2021 - 07:45 PM, said:

And here I thought we could all band together to completely disassemble the villainous Mahact this round, splitting his systems between us in mutual gain and celebration.

I for one do not have enough CTs for that, so the gains would be mostly yours. In addition, I am unsure what IH intends from here on. SftT with Tatts, Alliance with Morgoth... not that many places left where he can go.

[Imperial Historian]

Tapper, on 30 April 2021 - 07:56 PM, said:

D, on 30 April 2021 - 07:45 PM, said:

And here I thought we could all band together to completely disassemble the villainous Mahact this round, splitting his systems between us in mutual gain and celebration.

I for one do not have enough CTs for that, so the gains would be mostly yours. In addition, I am unsure what IH intends from here on. SftT with Tatts, Alliance with Morgoth... not that many places left where he can go.

I don't want to go anywhere. I just want to live in peace. Rest assured I have zero interest in fighting you Tapper. I will happily exchange ceasefires if that will make you feel more secure.

[Tattersail_]

Tapper where are you going to vote?

[Tapper]

And with that, I am off to bed. To whomever it may concern: the price for my 12 votes on any isse is 3 TG, just so I can score next round.

[Tapper]

Imperial Historian, on 30 April 2021 - 07:58 PM, said:

Tapper, on 30 April 2021 - 07:56 PM, said:

D, on 30 April 2021 - 07:45 PM, said:

And here I thought we could all band together to completely disassemble the villainous Mahact this round, splitting his systems between us in mutual gain and celebration.

I for one do not have enough CTs for that, so the gains would be mostly yours. In addition, I am unsure what IH intends from here on. SftT with Tatts, Alliance with Morgoth... not that many places left where he can go.

I don't want to go anywhere. I just want to live in peace. Rest assured I have zero interest in fighting you Tapper. I will happily exchange ceasefires if that will make you feel more secure.

I would be open to that exchange, yes.

[Tattersail_]

Tapper care to swap Alliance card or not?

[twelve]

Imperial Historian, on 30 April 2021 - 07:56 PM, said:

twelve, on 30 April 2021 - 07:26 PM, said:

IH. With the new public objective I'm now looking at trade. What are your thoughts on my trade agreement pn my racial pn and free refresh on trade for you racial?

These offers seem to be consistently 2-3 TG less than I asked for and if anything are getting worse!

You are getting 7 tgs straight up with your wash deal with D'rek and my racial which I still value at 3. How are you saying I'm still short 2 when I count it at 10 when you are asking 9? Knowing I'm getting Trade makes the Trade pn worth more.

[Tattersail_]

Stop bartering with him Twelve, you've offered more than enough. He over values everything or under values the other side. Either way you'll not come out on top.

[twelve]

Imperial Historian, on 30 April 2021 - 07:58 PM, said:

Tapper, on 30 April 2021 - 07:56 PM, said:

D, on 30 April 2021 - 07:45 PM, said:

And here I thought we could all band together to completely disassemble the villainous Mahact this round, splitting his systems between us in mutual gain and celebration.

I for one do not have enough CTs for that, so the gains would be mostly yours. In addition, I am unsure what IH intends from here on. SftT with Tatts, Alliance with Morgoth... not that many places left where he can go.

I don't want to go anywhere. I just want to live in peace. Rest assured I have zero interest in fighting you Tapper. I will happily exchange ceasefires if that will make you feel more secure.

Of course he doesnt want to go anywhere. He can just camp on Rex and score Imperial points and laugh his way to victory.

[Imperial Historian]

twelve, on 30 April 2021 - 08:00 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 30 April 2021 - 07:56 PM, said:

twelve, on 30 April 2021 - 07:26 PM, said:

IH. With the new public objective I'm now looking at trade. What are your thoughts on my trade agreement pn my racial pn and free refresh on trade for you racial?

These offers seem to be consistently 2-3 TG less than I asked for and if anything are getting worse!

You are getting 7 tgs straight up with your wash deal with D'rek and my racial which I still value at 3. How are you saying I'm still short 2 when I count it at 10 when you are asking 9? Knowing I'm getting Trade makes the Trade pn worth more.

1. I don't currently have a wash deal with d'rek
2. A free refresh Vs me using a CT is worth a net 2TG for me with my commander

So that's 3TG from your trade PN, 2TG from the free refresh, and your racial 2TG that's still 7TG and I asked for 9.

With the proposed leadership stall my lost fleet token is going to really limit my build options.

My price is my price, I think it's very reasonable.

[Imperial Historian]

Tattersail_, on 30 April 2021 - 08:02 PM, said:

Stop bartering with him Twelve, you've offered more than enough. He over values everything or under values the other side. Either way you'll not come out on top.

I just have strong opinions on fair pricing Tatts

[Imperial Historian]

Tapper, on 30 April 2021 - 07:59 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 30 April 2021 - 07:58 PM, said:

Tapper, on 30 April 2021 - 07:56 PM, said:

D, on 30 April 2021 - 07:45 PM, said:

And here I thought we could all band together to completely disassemble the villainous Mahact this round, splitting his systems between us in mutual gain and celebration.

I for one do not have enough CTs for that, so the gains would be mostly yours. In addition, I am unsure what IH intends from here on. SftT with Tatts, Alliance with Morgoth... not that many places left where he can go.

I don't want to go anywhere. I just want to live in peace. Rest assured I have zero interest in fighting you Tapper. I will happily exchange ceasefires if that will make you feel more secure.

I would be open to that exchange, yes.

Sure

[D'rek]

Tapper, on 30 April 2021 - 07:56 PM, said:

D, on 30 April 2021 - 07:45 PM, said:

And here I thought we could all band together to completely disassemble the villainous Mahact this round, splitting his systems between us in mutual gain and celebration.

I for one do not have enough CTs for that, so the gains would be mostly yours. In addition, I am unsure what IH intends from here on. SftT with Tatts, Alliance with Morgoth... not that many places left where he can go.

Well, I was hoping you'd be willing to just toss a couple ships at Accoen/Jeol'ir as your first turn to blockade his space dock or even take the planet(s) for yourself. Since Twelve is CT-starved and has 2 ships over his homeworld at the moment, I think it'll hurt him a lot to block his ability to build ships elsewhere.

But I understand if you want to take a crack at Mecatol instead.

Maybe I can talk Morgoth into throwing an infantry at Jeol'ir for a hopefully lucky space dock kill.

[twelve]

D, on 30 April 2021 - 07:45 PM, said:

And here I thought we could all band together to completely disassemble the villainous Mahact this round, splitting his systems between us in mutual gain and celebration.

I feel like I'm playing Diplomacy as Austria and Russia, Turkey and Italy all want to carve me to pieces.