[D'rek]

Imperial Historian, on 21 April 2021 - 02:48 PM, said:

I've just realised gravity rifts stack. Holy shit, that massively improves the cabal!

Multiple gravity rifts in the same system don't stack, but a ship that moves through multiple systems that have/are gravity rifts gets +1 movement from each of them, yes.
The Cabal can make a line of gravity rifts and slingshot ships built in the home system across the galaxy in a single move. Terrifying indeed.

[Tattersail_]

Who would like to trade alliance with me? Just so I am aware, and I'll have a think about it.

[twelve]

Your Price is high but reasonable. My racial actually gets better as the game goes on though. And tapping on the equivalent of three trade goods is a bit much. As you said I cant sell my racial once gone. People are likely to hoard it which I'm sure you will do or use it against me. An advanced ceasefire if you will. But if I activate your system I'd lose your racial so you'd likely save it for an end game situation.

A straight racial swap should be acceptable terms. But I'll do it for a swap and an agent use

[D'rek]

twelve, on 21 April 2021 - 02:55 PM, said:

Your Price is high but reasonable. My racial actually gets better as the game goes on though. And tapping on the equivalent of three trade goods is a bit much. As you said I cant sell my racial once gone. People are likely to hoard it which I'm sure you will do or use it against me. An advanced ceasefire if you will. But if I activate your system I'd lose your racial so you'd likely save it for an end game situation.

A straight racial swap should be acceptable terms. But I'll do it for a swap and an agent use

Nah, your faction PN gets worse overtime. It starts out as a not-as-good Mahact Ceasefire ('cause you have to play it in strategy phase rather than hang onto it until Mahact activates a system), and later in the game once the Mahact unlock their commander they can just bypass it, at which point it becomes only a not-as-good Ceasefire for whoever else has tokens in your fleet pool... which in this game doesn't look like it'll be a lot of players. Just Tapper and Khell and me, probably, even those are dubious for now, and I already have Khell's ceasefire (nor do I plan to get into loggerheads with Tapper).

Anyways your faction PN is the least appealing of the 3 things I put in that deal - I definitely do not value it anywhere close to my faction PN. But check out the other deal I suggested after with Mining Initiative.

[Tattersail_]

I think being neighbours with Morgoth, IH and Khell I have enough trading partners and you can trade with anyone D'rek. So your racial would only help me connect with Tapper and Twelve.

[D'rek]

Tattersail_, on 21 April 2021 - 03:10 PM, said:

I think being neighbours with Morgoth, IH and Khell I have enough trading partners and you can trade with anyone D'rek. So your racial would only help me connect with Tapper and Twelve.

Shhhh help me milk Twelve for more money

[Khellendros]

twelve, on 21 April 2021 - 02:23 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 21 April 2021 - 02:07 PM, said:

D, on 21 April 2021 - 02:02 PM, said:

Ohhh nice Khell, hordes of fighters out the wazoo incoming

I have to confess, I was a bit tempted to blockade Twelve's homeworld instead, for no reason other than just because it would be funny. I'm sure Twelve will be grateful to me that I didn't.

I am. Its becoming increasingly clear no one wants to be my friend. I had hoped I could entice Tapper to have Everra for the Riegel system and we exchange supports but he doth covets territory near me. Morgoth wants Everra D'rek want to sick you on me. Maybe you and I can find some sort of agreement. Everyone seems to want to tell you where to go. Where do the cabal want to go?

Wherever the action is, of course! I am always up for finding agreements. Some Cabal do believe that you are all just mindless prey, but The Stillness of Stars, for one (three on weekends), believes that your flesh actually tastes better after your bodies are flooded with the feeling of hope and relief.

[D'rek]

Whoops wrong button, sorry Khell. I will rep some other posts to net-make-it-up-to-you.

[Khellendros]

[twelve]

Gah. I dont have time to negotiate. I'm just going to make my move.

[Imperial Historian]

Shame predictive intelligence is at the end of a turn otherwise it would be a great way to stall. Still can be used for a stall (if you have the fleet capacity) but you have to plan ahead.

[Imperial Historian]

Tatts can you trade me your racial on your turn?

[D'rek]

3 dreadnoughts and 2 cruisers is scary business.

[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 21 April 2021 - 05:29 PM, said:

Tatts can you trade me your racial on your turn?

Yeah of course

[Imperial Historian]

D, on 21 April 2021 - 05:31 PM, said:

3 dreadnoughts and 2 cruisers is scary business.

I dunno dreads without a fighter shield just look like food for the cabal.

Morgoth's warfare stall seems to have restricted most people's starts apart from D'rek who will end her first turn having claimed all her slice, plus some extras.

Those hacan traders have a suprisingly fast start.

[Tapper]

Imperial Historian, on 21 April 2021 - 05:42 PM, said:

D, on 21 April 2021 - 05:31 PM, said:

3 dreadnoughts and 2 cruisers is scary business.

I dunno dreads without a fighter shield just look like food for the cabal.

Morgoth's warfare stall seems to have restricted most people's starts apart from D'rek who will end her first turn having claimed all her slice, plus some extras.

Those hacan traders have a suprisingly fast start.

That stall was one reason why I didn't mind taking Technology.

I have been going back and forth between one research of AI Dev (as I did) or a double dip of Psychoarcheology and any yellow (probably just Sarween, possibly the racial), then only building a Carrier + 2 Infantry.
Unlocking the Commander seemed the better future investment, but I wonder how I look back on this by the end of the game.

[Imperial Historian]

I'm passing when it comes back to me if I'm not around.

[Imperial Historian]

Tapper, on 21 April 2021 - 06:14 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 21 April 2021 - 05:42 PM, said:

D, on 21 April 2021 - 05:31 PM, said:

3 dreadnoughts and 2 cruisers is scary business.

I dunno dreads without a fighter shield just look like food for the cabal.

Morgoth's warfare stall seems to have restricted most people's starts apart from D'rek who will end her first turn having claimed all her slice, plus some extras.

Those hacan traders have a suprisingly fast start.

That stall was one reason why I didn't mind taking Technology.

I have been going back and forth between one research of AI Dev (as I did) or a double dip of Psychoarcheology and any yellow (probably just Sarween, possibly the racial), then only building a Carrier + 2 Infantry.
Unlocking the Commander seemed the better future investment, but I wonder how I look back on this by the end of the game.

All the new techs are tempting picks! But AI development is my favourite. The option for warsuns turn 2 is just amazing. I wander if any factions could technically achieve them round 1, with pyschoarchaeology and the right tech skips it's possible!

[D'rek]

Imperial Historian, on 21 April 2021 - 05:42 PM, said:

D, on 21 April 2021 - 05:31 PM, said:

3 dreadnoughts and 2 cruisers is scary business.

I dunno dreads without a fighter shield just look like food for the cabal.

Morgoth's warfare stall seems to have restricted most people's starts apart from D'rek who will end her first turn having claimed all her slice, plus some extras.

Those hacan traders have a suprisingly fast start.

Yup, got to try and get a round 1 stall of some sort whenever a faction with 2 starting transports picks WARFARE and you're in initiative order before them, 'cause they're always going to do two expands and a build at home before playing it.

[D'rek]

Tattersail_, on 21 April 2021 - 06:54 PM, said:

Activate 0.0.0

Exhaust agent to replace 1 infantry with 1 mech

Spend 2 tg to produce 1 carrier with Sarween Tools.

Tatts... are you sure?