[Tattersail_]

I'm saying Khell should move there

[D'rek]

Tattersail_, on 10 June 2021 - 12:23 PM, said:

I'm saying Khell should move there

Why? Khell can get the stage 2 pretty easily using a combination like Qucen'n/Rarron + Blank space north of Lodor + Cormund + Bottom Alpha wormhole + Bottom Beta wormhole, he hardly needs to run all the way over to Lisis/Velnor.

[Tattersail_]

D, on 10 June 2021 - 12:26 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 10 June 2021 - 12:23 PM, said:

I'm saying Khell should move there

Why? Khell can get the stage 2 pretty easily using a combination like Qucen'n/Rarron + Blank space north of Lodor + Cormund + Bottom Alpha wormhole + Bottom Beta wormhole, he hardly needs to run all the way over to Lisis/Velnor.

I can see those wormholes being contested by Tapper and IH. It gives Khell an option away from that area.

[D'rek]

Tattersail_, on 10 June 2021 - 12:28 PM, said:

D, on 10 June 2021 - 12:26 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 10 June 2021 - 12:23 PM, said:

I'm saying Khell should move there

Why? Khell can get the stage 2 pretty easily using a combination like Qucen'n/Rarron + Blank space north of Lodor + Cormund + Bottom Alpha wormhole + Bottom Beta wormhole, he hardly needs to run all the way over to Lisis/Velnor.

I can see those wormholes being contested by Tapper and IH. It gives Khell an option away from that area.

Wasn't your big speech about doing something "not boring" to stymie IH/Tapper? How does that fit with running away from the bottom border systems and making it easy for IH to fill them up and score the stage 2 PO?

[D'rek]

But yes, in any case, if Khell wanted to toss a single destroyer over to Lisis/Velnor I wouldn't shoot it down.

[Khellendros]

D, on 10 June 2021 - 12:33 PM, said:

But yes, in any case, if Khell wanted to toss a single destroyer over to Lisis/Velnor I wouldn't shoot it down.

I couldn't get there through the alpha wormhole as I don't have Antimass, but if Atlas is now clear I could get there through the beta wormhole. I had not even considered it as we have an agreement to stay out of each other's systems, and you have my Ceasefire anyway should I ever consider it. But if you are actually fine with it, then I'm certainly happy to send a single destroyer that way.

[Khellendros]

Tattersail_, on 10 June 2021 - 07:13 AM, said:

Khell I see a way we both could score the border objective. If I vacate Corneeq Resculon then you could move a ship there and we would both have units in that system. Obviously after you've scored the objective you move back out or forfeit the ship.

Also you would have the blank system, the one above your homeworld and if you move ships from Lodor to Lisis, up to you if you invade but you'll have the 5 systems. I'd move to Dreks homeworld and move ships into each system either side.

That'd give me the 5 systems. Then I can move out through one of the wormholes. Thoughts?

As D'rek mentioned, I should hopefully be able to secure 5 edge systems without needing to do something like moving to Corneeq-Resculon, but I acknowledge your generous offer. If you're worried that I'll take advantage if you move ships out, I pinky promise I won't. The Lodor fleet is on standby to back up those two south wormholes at the moment.

[D'rek]

Khellendros, on 10 June 2021 - 12:41 PM, said:

D, on 10 June 2021 - 12:33 PM, said:

But yes, in any case, if Khell wanted to toss a single destroyer over to Lisis/Velnor I wouldn't shoot it down.

I couldn't get there through the alpha wormhole as I don't have Antimass, but if Atlas is now clear I could get there through the beta wormhole. I had not even considered it as we have an agreement to stay out of each other's systems, and you have my Ceasefire anyway should I ever consider it. But if you are actually fine with it, then I'm certainly happy to send a single destroyer that way.

For that matter, might be easier to just toss a destroyer into Qucen'n/Rarron instead.

Also, if you want to easily eat a war sun there's a damaged one sitting in Loki/Abaddon/Ashtroth right now (but it'll probably be Diplomacy'd by this time next turn).

[Khellendros]

D, on 10 June 2021 - 12:46 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 10 June 2021 - 12:41 PM, said:

D, on 10 June 2021 - 12:33 PM, said:

But yes, in any case, if Khell wanted to toss a single destroyer over to Lisis/Velnor I wouldn't shoot it down.

I couldn't get there through the alpha wormhole as I don't have Antimass, but if Atlas is now clear I could get there through the beta wormhole. I had not even considered it as we have an agreement to stay out of each other's systems, and you have my Ceasefire anyway should I ever consider it. But if you are actually fine with it, then I'm certainly happy to send a single destroyer that way.

For that matter, might be easier to just toss a destroyer into Qucen'n/Rarron instead.

Also, if you want to easily eat a war sun there's a damaged one sitting in Loki/Abaddon/Ashtroth right now (but it'll probably be Diplomacy'd by this time next turn).

That's true, Qucen'n-Rarron probably makes more sense if you're alright with it.

And haha, tempting but Twelve has my SftT, he's safe from my carrion-hunting

[D'rek]

He's probably going to die and you'll lose the SftT anyways.

Anyways, Atlas airspace will probably be closed in another turn or two, depending on how stuff goes, but Qucen'n/Rarron should stay open all round so you can wait as long as you need to toss a destroyer there.

[D'rek]

Plus I just love the classic movie trope of the mid-story secondary villain getting betrayed and shouting "Nooooooo who would have thought the giant monster I summoned would eat *me*?!" as he's trapped in tentacles dragging him back into the portal or whatnot.

[Khellendros]

D, on 10 June 2021 - 12:51 PM, said:

He's probably going to die and you'll lose the SftT anyways.

Anyways, Atlas airspace will probably be closed in another turn or two, depending on how stuff goes, but Qucen'n/Rarron should stay open all round so you can wait as long as you need to toss a destroyer there.

When we were talking about Qucenn-Rarron, we meant Tequran-Torkan, right?

[Imperial Historian]

I can see this PO causing a lot of skirmishes! Now where is Khell going to go?

[D'rek]

Khellendros, on 10 June 2021 - 01:08 PM, said:

D, on 10 June 2021 - 12:51 PM, said:

He's probably going to die and you'll lose the SftT anyways.

Anyways, Atlas airspace will probably be closed in another turn or two, depending on how stuff goes, but Qucen'n/Rarron should stay open all round so you can wait as long as you need to toss a destroyer there.

When we were talking about Qucenn-Rarron, we meant Tequran-Torkan, right?

I'm going off memory so probably getting them mixed up. The one northeast of my homeworld, that I just have 1 infantry in right now.

[Khellendros]

D'rek, if I take out that War Sun, can we negotiate for your SftT?

[D'rek]

Khellendros, on 10 June 2021 - 01:37 PM, said:

D'rek, if I take out that War Sun, can we negotiate for your SftT?

Yeah. When Twelve dies you'll get your SftT back and Twelve's SftT will go back in the box (and finally no more Scepter of Dominion for IH). Then you and I can swap SftTs and you'll be right back to where you were (plus one captured war sun ).

[D'rek]

Twelve can play DIPLO on any system with a planet he controls, and if he lasts until agenda phase he can give Scepter of Dominion to IH, and IH plays it in strategy phase. So ideally you, Khell, would grab Ashtroth now and Morgoth would knock out Accoen/Jeol'ir before he can diplo that, too. Otherwise IH probably gets Scepter for next round yet again.

[Khellendros]

D'rek, seeing how this round goes, it may be wise to keep that cruiser of yours in the beta wormhole so that IH can't easily move his War Sun through it after he's Star Forged MR to his content.

[D'rek]

Khellendros, on 10 June 2021 - 02:07 PM, said:

D'rek, seeing how this round goes, it may be wise to keep that cruiser of yours in the beta wormhole so that IH can't easily move his War Sun through it after he's Star Forged MR to his content.

True. And he's right after me in initiative order, too, ick.

[twelve]

I'm not even going to bother reading why Khell did what he did. I was just set to sell Tatts my racial for an attack on A homeworld but whats the point now. Adios