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Twilight Imperium 8 : Magi's Madness - Chat Thread

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Posted 21 May 2021 - 07:30 PM

Oh yeah, I should specify the price will be really high to play it on ixth :p but it's not unthinkable

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 21 May 2021 - 07:37 PM

View PostD, on 21 May 2021 - 07:30 PM, said:

Oh yeah, I should specify the price will be really high to play it on ixth :p but it's not unthinkable

It's going down anyway so might as well get some use from it while you can.
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Posted 21 May 2021 - 07:55 PM

View Posttwelve, on 21 May 2021 - 07:37 PM, said:

View PostD, on 21 May 2021 - 07:30 PM, said:

Oh yeah, I should specify the price will be really high to play it on ixth :p but it's not unthinkable

It's going down anyway so might as well get some use from it while you can.


Firing one shot at a ship that'll sustain damage and not go into combat? I don't think that'll make much difference. :rolleyes:

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 21 May 2021 - 08:09 PM

You realized you lost all your leverage by telling everyone that you were just going to target me right? Especially since you are asking waaaaay too much to pick a different target.
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Posted 21 May 2021 - 08:36 PM

View Posttwelve, on 21 May 2021 - 08:09 PM, said:

You realized you lost all your leverage by telling everyone that you were just going to target me right? Especially since you are asking waaaaay too much to pick a different target.


Tapper, Morgoth, Khell, IH, or Tatts might be formulating plans to attack Mecatol, or Accoen, or Primor and would benefit from having the PDS there removed. And if so, then perhaps the person targeted will be especially willing to not have it directed at them.

If not, so be it, I still get my stall. I have no interest in acting out some vaudeville deception theatrics where I pretend I will use it on one planet as a way of soliciting bids if I had no actual intention of doing so in the first place.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 24 May 2021 - 07:51 AM

I’ll post my move in the next hour or so.
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Posted 24 May 2021 - 05:00 PM

Tatts, I'm going to put our trade of 1TG for your racial in my next turn unless you have any objections.
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Posted 24 May 2021 - 05:01 PM

And is it just me or are the rounds much longer than usual? Everyone seems to have so many things to do!
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Posted 24 May 2021 - 05:20 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 24 May 2021 - 05:00 PM, said:

Tatts, I'm going to put our trade of 1TG for your racial in my next turn unless you have any objections.


Tatts, if you keep going through with this continuous IH feeding you are a fool. No one will blame you for "breaking" your terrible, terrible round 1 deal at this point when IH has a bajillion CTs, resources, and is sitting on MR with Twelve feeding him a free multi-player signal jamming for it every round.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 24 May 2021 - 05:37 PM

View PostD, on 24 May 2021 - 05:20 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 24 May 2021 - 05:00 PM, said:

Tatts, I'm going to put our trade of 1TG for your racial in my next turn unless you have any objections.


Tatts, if you keep going through with this continuous IH feeding you are a fool. No one will blame you for "breaking" your terrible, terrible round 1 deal at this point when IH has a bajillion CTs, resources, and is sitting on MR with Twelve feeding him a free multi-player signal jamming for it every round.


It was an excellent deal, 3 resources, a legendary planet, mechs/action cards, and a TG for him and a singular CT for me.

I trust tatts as a man of his word.

I don't think I'm in a significantly better resource/CT position than the majority of players, you for example have 1 less CT than me but if you take the max of resources or influence from each planet more income than me, plus 2 extra CT and an action card and sarween tools per turn, not to mention your commodity advantage and agent.

Stop scaremongering.
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Posted 24 May 2021 - 06:49 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 24 May 2021 - 05:37 PM, said:

View PostD, on 24 May 2021 - 05:20 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 24 May 2021 - 05:00 PM, said:

Tatts, I'm going to put our trade of 1TG for your racial in my next turn unless you have any objections.


Tatts, if you keep going through with this continuous IH feeding you are a fool. No one will blame you for "breaking" your terrible, terrible round 1 deal at this point when IH has a bajillion CTs, resources, and is sitting on MR with Twelve feeding him a free multi-player signal jamming for it every round.


It was an excellent deal, 3 resources, a legendary planet, mechs/action cards, and a TG for him and a singular CT for me.


That was hardly the whole deal. But it doesn't matter, my point is that given your game state Tatts would be fully justified in cancelling the deal at this time and no one in the game but you is going to care about that so there'll be no repercussions for him.

View PostImperial Historian, on 24 May 2021 - 05:37 PM, said:

I don't think I'm in a significantly better resource/CT position than the majority of players, you for example have 1 less CT than me but if you take the max of resources or influence from each planet more income than me, plus 2 extra CT and an action card and sarween tools per turn, not to mention your commodity advantage and agent.

Stop scaremongering.


That is a preposterously stupid way of measuring how "good" someone's position is, but okay, sure, you want to compare TG generation and resource spending in this round?

So far this round I have generated 6 trade goods, spend 14 resources, and spent 12 influence, with 6 potential resources still left to spend in your bank. The total resource value of my non-structure units currently on the board is 35 resources.

So far this round you've generated 9 trade goods (more than the Hacan, isn't trade good generation supposed to be my thing? Apprently not when you're Muaat with no threats and L1Z1X feeding you enough CTs to do every secondary action every round), spent 20 resources, and spent 9 influence, with 19 potential resources still left to spend in your bank. The total resource value of your non-structure units currently on the board is 63 resources.

It's not even a close comparison. Not to mention I'm 3 VP behind you. You should check the math yourself before you suggest yet another stupid ways of comparing yourself to others. Not that there is any way to compare your board state to the rest of us and not come out way ahead except the most ridiculously contrived ways possible.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 24 May 2021 - 07:15 PM

View PostD, on 24 May 2021 - 06:49 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 24 May 2021 - 05:37 PM, said:

View PostD, on 24 May 2021 - 05:20 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 24 May 2021 - 05:00 PM, said:

Tatts, I'm going to put our trade of 1TG for your racial in my next turn unless you have any objections.


Tatts, if you keep going through with this continuous IH feeding you are a fool. No one will blame you for "breaking" your terrible, terrible round 1 deal at this point when IH has a bajillion CTs, resources, and is sitting on MR with Twelve feeding him a free multi-player signal jamming for it every round.


It was an excellent deal, 3 resources, a legendary planet, mechs/action cards, and a TG for him and a singular CT for me.


That was hardly the whole deal. But it doesn't matter, my point is that given your game state Tatts would be fully justified in cancelling the deal at this time and no one in the game but you is going to care about that so there'll be no repercussions for him.


You are very keen to break deals if the board state justifies it. You've demonstrated it in the past and I deal with you accordingly. Tatts generally keeps his deals, and the board deals with him accordingly.

And I've looked at your maths and I'm genuinely confused where some of the numbers come from.

I'm not claiming I'm not doing well, I am but I'm not doing considerably better than my neighbors, and I'm fully expecting to have a lot of this eaten by a passing void monster.
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Posted 24 May 2021 - 07:37 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 24 May 2021 - 07:15 PM, said:

View PostD, on 24 May 2021 - 06:49 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 24 May 2021 - 05:37 PM, said:

View PostD, on 24 May 2021 - 05:20 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 24 May 2021 - 05:00 PM, said:

Tatts, I'm going to put our trade of 1TG for your racial in my next turn unless you have any objections.


Tatts, if you keep going through with this continuous IH feeding you are a fool. No one will blame you for "breaking" your terrible, terrible round 1 deal at this point when IH has a bajillion CTs, resources, and is sitting on MR with Twelve feeding him a free multi-player signal jamming for it every round.


It was an excellent deal, 3 resources, a legendary planet, mechs/action cards, and a TG for him and a singular CT for me.


That was hardly the whole deal. But it doesn't matter, my point is that given your game state Tatts would be fully justified in cancelling the deal at this time and no one in the game but you is going to care about that so there'll be no repercussions for him.


You are very keen to break deals if the board state justifies it. You've demonstrated it in the past and I deal with you accordingly. Tatts generally keeps his deals, and the board deals with him accordingly.


Ohh you wanna bring past game meta into this? I seem to recall you breaking our alliance and invading my homeworld out of nowhere in that game where you were Mentak? Guess I should be the one "dealing with you accordingly"

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 24 May 2021 - 07:48 PM

We never had an alliance d'rek, you bought my racial, and I was a pirate. I was pretty careful not to agree anything more than that.

And as I recall I invaded your homeworld to try and stop you eating tatts.

I'm happy for people to deal with me based on how I've behaved in the past.
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Posted 24 May 2021 - 09:16 PM

So I take it Tatts is out this week?
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Posted 24 May 2021 - 09:20 PM

View Posttwelve, on 24 May 2021 - 09:16 PM, said:

So I take it Tatts is out this week?


Yeah, he might have left provisionals though, I don't think Blend's been around as yet so we'll see.
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Posted 24 May 2021 - 10:48 PM

Unfortunately I do not have any provisionals from Tatts.
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Posted 25 May 2021 - 06:14 AM

Tatts said he should have some access, he's logged onto the forum recently so hopefully some moves this week.

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Posted 25 May 2021 - 06:28 AM

This is a very interesting game state for sure. Lots of positioning. Lots of early combat. I certainly feel better now, finally having a proper fleet on the board. Two even. It was tricky breaking out of the early CT shortage.
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Posted 25 May 2021 - 12:41 PM

So I accidentally gave Khell an Industrial fragment on his explore of Cormund, but Cormund is a Hazardous planet. I've put the Industrial fragment back into the Industrial deck and randomized what is left of the deck again using the randomizer. Khell, you've drawn a hazardous fragment instead!
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