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Twilight Imperium 8 : Magi's Madness - Chat Thread

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Posted 18 May 2021 - 08:29 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 18 May 2021 - 08:23 PM, said:

I don't actually know what to do for my turn :( Hey Tatts, what are your plans, by the by?


You can always play politics to see the new action cards (and agendas) early. Always annoying when you draw late in the round an action card that would've given you exciting new options or just plain been more efficient if you had it earlier.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 18 May 2021 - 08:40 PM

View PostD, on 18 May 2021 - 08:29 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 18 May 2021 - 08:23 PM, said:

I don't actually know what to do for my turn :( Hey Tatts, what are your plans, by the by?


You can always play politics to see the new action cards (and agendas) early. Always annoying when you draw late in the round an action card that would've given you exciting new options or just plain been more efficient if you had it earlier.


That's what I'm currently considering (and waiting on the outcome of the epic battle in Lodor).
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Posted 18 May 2021 - 08:40 PM

Khell/tapper if you are selling war funding I may be interested too
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Posted 18 May 2021 - 08:41 PM

And I can pay now rather than on credit ;)
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Posted 18 May 2021 - 08:43 PM

I'm not overly interested in passing around War Funding, it all sounds a bit too convoluted for my tastes, and you never know when I'll actually be needing it.
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Posted 18 May 2021 - 08:43 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 18 May 2021 - 08:43 PM, said:

I'm not overly interested in passing around War Funding, it all sounds a bit too convoluted for my tastes, and you never know when I'll actually be needing it.


That's why I ensured for my proposed deal it would be in your hands during both your first and second turn - would only move around between them.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 18 May 2021 - 08:47 PM

View PostD, on 18 May 2021 - 08:43 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 18 May 2021 - 08:43 PM, said:

I'm not overly interested in passing around War Funding, it all sounds a bit too convoluted for my tastes, and you never know when I'll actually be needing it.


That's why I ensured for my proposed deal it would be in your hands during both your first and second turn - would only move around between them.


But what if I get attacked in between my turns?! Everyone's always out to get me you know.
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Posted 18 May 2021 - 08:54 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 18 May 2021 - 08:47 PM, said:

View PostD, on 18 May 2021 - 08:43 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 18 May 2021 - 08:43 PM, said:

I'm not overly interested in passing around War Funding, it all sounds a bit too convoluted for my tastes, and you never know when I'll actually be needing it.


That's why I ensured for my proposed deal it would be in your hands during both your first and second turn - would only move around between them.


But what if I get attacked in between my turns?! Everyone's always out to get me you know.


Well if I have War Funding on my turn I can ensure IH won't attack you (if I don't, my chance of success drops a lot and I probably won't go for it). That leaves Twelve and Tatts as the only ones who could reasonably do so. I don't think Twelve would, he wants to keep that SFTT from you, and Tatts would only be able to attack you in Lodor where your colossal fleet is... seems unlikely?

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 18 May 2021 - 09:01 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 18 May 2021 - 08:23 PM, said:

I don't actually know what to do for my turn :( Hey Tatts, what are your plans, by the by?


I have no plans. First turn reinforce home system. Keep my stuff safe. Score up to 2 different POs without doing much.
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Posted 18 May 2021 - 09:03 PM

View PostD, on 18 May 2021 - 08:01 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 18 May 2021 - 07:48 PM, said:

Drek Mahact Ceasefire, how about 3 Tgs? Is this something you can afford?


If you don't mind sending it to me on my first turn but waiting until I actually have the TGs to receive them, sure. Actually, what we could do in that case would be you take my trade agreement and send me back 3 TG after it is played.

You don't like the SFTT deal I proposed?


Deal re trade agreement and returning 3tgs.
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Posted 18 May 2021 - 09:07 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 18 May 2021 - 09:03 PM, said:

View PostD, on 18 May 2021 - 08:01 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 18 May 2021 - 07:48 PM, said:

Drek Mahact Ceasefire, how about 3 Tgs? Is this something you can afford?


If you don't mind sending it to me on my first turn but waiting until I actually have the TGs to receive them, sure. Actually, what we could do in that case would be you take my trade agreement and send me back 3 TG after it is played.

You don't like the SFTT deal I proposed?


Deal re trade agreement and returning 3tgs.


Okie dokie

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 18 May 2021 - 09:08 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 18 May 2021 - 08:47 PM, said:

View PostD, on 18 May 2021 - 08:43 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 18 May 2021 - 08:43 PM, said:

I'm not overly interested in passing around War Funding, it all sounds a bit too convoluted for my tastes, and you never know when I'll actually be needing it.


That's why I ensured for my proposed deal it would be in your hands during both your first and second turn - would only move around between them.


But what if I get attacked in between my turns?! Everyone's always out to get me you know.


Hmm, I think both of us can retaliate well if the other attacks the other. So you needn't worry.
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Posted 18 May 2021 - 09:10 PM

View PostD, on 18 May 2021 - 02:43 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 18 May 2021 - 02:39 PM, said:

Does d'rek really have 3 dreads over Ixth? I thought 2 died in her battle with twelve and she resurrected one.


Yes, should be 2. Originally Blend had only 1 dying in the fight over Ixth before the war funding retcon thing, so maybe that's where the glitch popped in.


Yep, def forgot to remove one of the dreads in that. It will be removed in the next map update.
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Posted 18 May 2021 - 09:13 PM

View PostD, on 18 May 2021 - 03:10 PM, said:

@Blend - also on the topic of map updates, I think Corneeq needs a control flag on it and Tatts dreadnought in the wormhole nexus should be repaired.


Thanks, these will also be updated in the next map update!
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Posted 18 May 2021 - 10:01 PM

View PostD, on 18 May 2021 - 08:54 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 18 May 2021 - 08:47 PM, said:

View PostD, on 18 May 2021 - 08:43 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 18 May 2021 - 08:43 PM, said:

I'm not overly interested in passing around War Funding, it all sounds a bit too convoluted for my tastes, and you never know when I'll actually be needing it.


That's why I ensured for my proposed deal it would be in your hands during both your first and second turn - would only move around between them.


But what if I get attacked in between my turns?! Everyone's always out to get me you know.


Well if I have War Funding on my turn I can ensure IH won't attack you (if I don't, my chance of success drops a lot and I probably won't go for it). That leaves Twelve and Tatts as the only ones who could reasonably do so. I don't think Twelve would, he wants to keep that SFTT from you, and Tatts would only be able to attack you in Lodor where your colossal fleet is... seems unlikely?



I'd have to see with Tapper if he'd be willing to give War Funding straight back to me (via giving it back to you, as Tapper and I don't border).
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Posted 18 May 2021 - 10:08 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 18 May 2021 - 10:01 PM, said:

View PostD, on 18 May 2021 - 08:54 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 18 May 2021 - 08:47 PM, said:

View PostD, on 18 May 2021 - 08:43 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 18 May 2021 - 08:43 PM, said:

I'm not overly interested in passing around War Funding, it all sounds a bit too convoluted for my tastes, and you never know when I'll actually be needing it.


That's why I ensured for my proposed deal it would be in your hands during both your first and second turn - would only move around between them.


But what if I get attacked in between my turns?! Everyone's always out to get me you know.


Well if I have War Funding on my turn I can ensure IH won't attack you (if I don't, my chance of success drops a lot and I probably won't go for it). That leaves Twelve and Tatts as the only ones who could reasonably do so. I don't think Twelve would, he wants to keep that SFTT from you, and Tatts would only be able to attack you in Lodor where your colossal fleet is... seems unlikely?



I'd have to see with Tapper if he'd be willing to give War Funding straight back to me (via giving it back to you, as Tapper and I don't border).


Understood, let's see what Tapper has to say.

@Tapper just to be clear (as the conversation has been long at this point) in summary I'd be paying you 1TG for using War Funding and with the right transaction timings that we've worked out it wouldn't obstruct your previous agreement with Khell at all.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 18 May 2021 - 10:12 PM

Also, there's a way we can actually get it back to you on my turn, Khell.

1. End of your turn -> you transact with me, give WF to me
2. During my turn -> I play WF, it goes to Tapper
3. End of my turn {a} -> I transact with Tapper, receive WF (and I pay Tapper 1 TG)
4. End of my turn {b} -> I transact with you, give you WF

Doesn't violate the limit of 1 PN per transaction or 1 transaction per player per turn, and you'd have it back in your hand by the end of my turn. So even if you are worried about needing it defensively you'd have it the whole time :)

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 18 May 2021 - 10:16 PM

View PostD, on 18 May 2021 - 10:12 PM, said:

Also, there's a way we can actually get it back to you on my turn, Khell.

1. End of your turn -> you transact with me, give WF to me
2. During my turn -> I play WF, it goes to Tapper
3. End of my turn {a} -> I transact with Tapper, receive WF (and I pay Tapper 1 TG)
4. End of my turn {b} -> I transact with you, give you WF

Doesn't violate the limit of 1 PN per transaction or 1 transaction per player per turn, and you'd have it back in your hand by the end of my turn. So even if you are worried about needing it defensively you'd have it the whole time :)



Sounds dandy!
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Posted 18 May 2021 - 10:17 PM

Khell I will give you one TG not to go through with this convoluted deal.
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Posted 18 May 2021 - 10:27 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 18 May 2021 - 10:17 PM, said:

Khell I will give you one TG not to go through with this convoluted deal.


For 6 TG, I won't do it.

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