[D'rek]

Tattersail_, on 10 May 2021 - 10:22 PM, said:

I'm going to bed, leave a message for me Drek I'll pick it up in the morning re racial

Well, I didn't manage to grab any stall ACs so it's just my faction PN available. Talk to Khell and figure out what you two want to do.

Would be great to force IH to pass before he can do Leadership secondary so that he can't spend his resources on a ton of reinforcements and have them available and not activated next round. And also great if Twelve couldn't attack me until next round. But I'll leave it to Khell to decide if he wants to do that or not, and if he does maybe not worth to make the trade if you need more than 1 stall and can't get any from anyone else.

If you want my faction PN, I'd like the first AC you showed me and your votes on it, like you offered. And then I suggest you play the second AC on IH - you'll see why before we get to that timing window.

[Tapper]

twelve, on 10 May 2021 - 06:31 PM, said:

Tapper. I just now realized you brought 2 Dreads and a destroyer to the Rigel system. The deal was for 1 ship. Can you please explain your action?

Creating room for a build on my space port system, where I was at fleet cap. I also needed to fight your cruiser - I wouldn't want to suffer from bad rolls and potentially waste a CT and a ship.
They'll be gone at some point in the next round.

[Morgoth]

Warsuns everywhere! That's the thing with the new Muaat. They're kind of a semi-saar now, with War Suns rather than space docks.

[Morgoth]

did my lost gfs return to my homeworld? I can't remember how many I had there, or whether I should have done something in my post.

[Morgoth]

It would be a weird place for my exes to be, but better there than here I suppose.

[Tattersail_]

So do any of you have a stall you'd be willing to sell me?

This post has been edited by Tattersail_: 11 May 2021 - 05:52 AM

[Tattersail_]

Morgoth, on 11 May 2021 - 05:19 AM, said:

Warsuns everywhere! That's the thing with the new Muaat. They're kind of a semi-saar now, with War Suns rather than space docks.

This game is seeing a lot of action. The number of TGs Muatt and Hacan have is staggering.

[Tapper]

D, on 10 May 2021 - 06:45 PM, said:

Well, there we are.

Now if you ask me, I find it rather worrying that IH has been allowed to pump out 2 war suns, take Mecatol Rex, and managed to swap ceasefires and alliances with the two most warsome factions next to him, plus he holds Twelve's ceasefire now, too.

Up until now, my "plan" per se was to do not much of anything about it, and when he inevitably wins the game throw it in Tapper and Morgoth's face. I figured it'd be good for the forum meta.

But then he goes and does this unnecessary action. Tsk tsk. And if you ask me, it's an over-reach. So maybe we ought to work together to do some disassembly, hmm?

Here's what I propose:

Khell -- Use Vortex next turn; stall Leadership one more time. This should force IH to pass so he can't retaliate to what Tatts is about to do. Furthermore, I will give you the AC I showed you earlier - use it on IH when the time comes. Big attack on Mecatol through the wormholes at the start of next round is highly advisable, but your call.

Tatts -- I'll give you my faction PN so you can stall. You give me the 2 ACs you showed me - I intend to put both to work against IH ASAP. On your next turn after the stall, send the super-dreadnought in your home system with the mech to capture Muaat. I can send you a couple TGs if you need 'em for that mech move.

Me -- Pretty sure I can take out his war sun in Atlas next round, to be honest. Might end up being a choice of IH or Twelve, but IH has pissed me off more right now so it's an easy choice.

Tapper/Morgoth -- I guess you two aren't gonna be willing to do anything that would get your precious PNs played, but you could certainly proxy-help it by offering some helpful ACs. Alternatively, Tapper, you could make a play on Mecatol, forcing IH to play your ceasefire, and then have free reign again. Tatts could even give you his faction PN to "pay back" the lost CT.

Well, as I said to IH when he was crying how ridiculous your 25 TG were: I was no part of building you up.
Likewise, I could maybe have gotten a dread and 1 INF to MR before his fleet with a WS arrived there. It would have been a waste of resources.

Letnev is a late game faction. I will do what I can to get there, and then I will flex some muscles.

If anyone wants me to do more or sooner, they should make it in my interest to do so, and so far, even getting a refresh or a commodity trade has been far from fluid (and you've been profiting from that).

[Tattersail_]

Tapper I now connect to you or rather can at least trade with you. Would you like me to swap out your commodities?

Also do you have a stall AC to sell?

[Tapper]

As for the actual content of what I could do: I care less about holding the Muaat ceasefire PN than you might think.
Hell, you could buy it from me - it's an in-hand PN after all, and if Khell has serious desires on MR, he'd LOVE to hold it, so you can likely re-sell it.


If it is IH winning the game that you all fear more? Pay me to take Imperial. It won't be cheap, especially since it means foregoing Leadership next round, but he won't score through MR.

Frankly, after you told IH to drop the granny-act, don't don the habit yourself or expect too much altruism.

This post has been edited by Tapper: 11 May 2021 - 06:26 AM

[Tapper]

Tattersail_, on 11 May 2021 - 06:18 AM, said:

Tapper I now connect to you or rather can at least trade with you. Would you like me to swap out your commodities?

Also do you have a stall AC to sell?

I do, but that means passing for me.

[Tapper]

Tapper, on 11 May 2021 - 06:25 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 11 May 2021 - 06:18 AM, said:

Tapper I now connect to you or rather can at least trade with you. Would you like me to swap out your commodities?

Also do you have a stall AC to sell?

I do, but that means passing for me.

Plus, you need a neighbour with relic fragments.

[Tapper]

Tattersail_, on 11 May 2021 - 06:18 AM, said:

Tapper I now connect to you or rather can at least trade with you. Would you like me to swap out your commodities?

Also do you have a stall AC to sell?

Commodity swap would be great, thanks let me know if you want that AC.

[Tattersail_]

Tapper, on 11 May 2021 - 08:05 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 11 May 2021 - 06:18 AM, said:

Tapper I now connect to you or rather can at least trade with you. Would you like me to swap out your commodities?

Also do you have a stall AC to sell?

Commodity swap would be great, thanks let me know if you want that AC.

I'll swap them regardless you can add that in.

The stall AC would need to be passed to D'rek on your turn for her to pass it to me on mine.

If you do then you can have my alliance PN if that is acceptable? Or is there something different you would like?

[Khellendros]

Everyone’s being so proactive all of a sudden. I did not expect that move from IH considering the comfy position he seemed to be in. I also don’t see Tatts hurting IH, no matter what he says.

This post has been edited by Khellendros: 11 May 2021 - 09:30 AM

[Khellendros]

Tatts, did you say you were passing me a PN to look at?

This post has been edited by Khellendros: 11 May 2021 - 09:33 AM

[Tattersail_]

Khellendros, on 11 May 2021 - 09:31 AM, said:

Tatts, did you say you were passing me a PM to look at?

Do you still have your SftT?

[Khellendros]

Tattersail_, on 11 May 2021 - 09:32 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 11 May 2021 - 09:31 AM, said:

Tatts, did you say you were passing me a PM to look at?

Do you still have your SftT?

Yes, but it’s headed to Twelve as far as I know...if he ever moves that Dread.

[Imperial Historian]

Khellendros, on 11 May 2021 - 09:29 AM, said:

Everyone's being so proactive all of a sudden. I did not expect that move from IH considering the comfy position he seemed to be in. I also don't see Tatts hurting IH, no matter what he says.

My go to position is to be quite passive (which usually works out well for me to be fair). I resolved this game to play more like d'rek to change things up. It will probably backfire horribly.

[Tapper]

Imperial Historian, on 11 May 2021 - 10:07 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 11 May 2021 - 09:29 AM, said:

Everyone's being so proactive all of a sudden. I did not expect that move from IH considering the comfy position he seemed to be in. I also don't see Tatts hurting IH, no matter what he says.

My go to position is to be quite passive (which usually works out well for me to be fair). I resolved this game to play more like d'rek to change things up. It will probably backfire horribly.

I for one very much like the burst of activity, as well as aiming it at D'rek, with whom you had a pretty beneficial thing going: I had fully expected you both to play the other up as the big danger and wait for Khell, Twelve and myself to sacrifice plastic and tokens to keep the other one from winning, tbh.