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#2661 User is offline   twelve 

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Posted 07 April 2021 - 12:29 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 07 April 2021 - 12:03 PM, said:

Oh hey, guess who just realised that Abaddon is not a 1/0 planet, but actually a 1/2 planet with one of those explore upgrades?

This guy!

All this time...I think I have a real blind spot for those extra things next to planets.

I went almost as long not realizing Cormund was a gravity rift so dont feel bad.
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Posted 07 April 2021 - 12:29 PM

No, I think he could do it in one go:

The elected player gains this card. The owner of this card may discard this card after performing an action to remove 1 of his command counters from the game board and return it to his reinforcements; then he may perform 1 additional action.

So moves to Quann; discards card; moves to NRA home system.
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Posted 07 April 2021 - 12:45 PM

Nah, the deal is Aether abilities are free for anyone trying to stop IH.
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Posted 07 April 2021 - 12:48 PM

Blend don't do me like this man, the percentage is low, it will be epic if it came off! In a way I will be trying to stop IH. :D

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Posted 07 April 2021 - 12:50 PM

Honestly the sneak in me, I could have just asked you for the abilities hoping you'd assume I'd go for IH, and done it but I thought honesty was the best policy with you!
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Posted 07 April 2021 - 12:53 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 07 April 2021 - 12:48 PM, said:

Blend don't do me like this man, the percentage is low, it will be epic if it came off! In a way I will be trying to stop IH. :D

I have the post ready to go if its a yes!



If the percentage was a bit higher, I'd say Blend should let you go for it. But as it is, it's actually practically zero unless you get incredibly lucky. I can't see you pulling out the win with this.
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Posted 07 April 2021 - 12:53 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 07 April 2021 - 12:50 PM, said:

Honestly the sneak in me, I could have just asked you for the abilities hoping you'd assume I'd go for IH, and done it but I thought honesty was the best policy with you!


Use of my Aether abilities is a binding agreement. The deal is if you're going after IH, you can use them. If you decide to go another way, then the deal is off, you can't use them.
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Posted 07 April 2021 - 12:54 PM

View Posttwelve, on 07 April 2021 - 12:27 PM, said:

I need to look up the wording of the minister of war thing but isn't it an action to use it?. So even with fleet Logistics you wi need 1 action to move closer. 1 action to remove the token and a third action to attack Morgoth 's homeworld?


Playing Minister of War is not a component action.


View PostTattersail_, on 07 April 2021 - 12:50 PM, said:

Honestly the sneak in me, I could have just asked you for the abilities hoping you'd assume I'd go for IH, and done it but I thought honesty was the best policy with you!


The timing doesn't work for sneaking it in like that anyway. You'd have to activate the system first, and then Blend would apply or not apply his aether abilities.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 07 April 2021 - 12:55 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 07 April 2021 - 05:30 AM, said:

I was talking with a friend in my boardgame group the other day, reminiscing about the grand strategy games we haven't been able to play for more than a year. And discussing previous sessions, I realised there's a noticeable difference in my playstyle there compared to here. When we play TI in real life, I am much more agressive and expansionist, whereas here I tend to fall into a pattern of expanding somewhat and then hunkering down. The win rate is roughly the same, but I wonder why that is. Perhaps all the additional time to mull over my moves makes me more paranoid of having missed something.


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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 07 April 2021 - 12:57 PM

I think then I'm just going to pass.
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Posted 07 April 2021 - 12:59 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 07 April 2021 - 12:53 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 07 April 2021 - 12:48 PM, said:

Blend don't do me like this man, the percentage is low, it will be epic if it came off! In a way I will be trying to stop IH. :D

I have the post ready to go if its a yes!



If the percentage was a bit higher, I'd say Blend should let you go for it. But as it is, it's actually practically zero unless you get incredibly lucky. I can't see you pulling out the win with this.


Morale boost, destroy two ships when one ship is destroyed, my agent ability, my odds are better than you think.

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Posted 07 April 2021 - 01:03 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 07 April 2021 - 12:59 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 07 April 2021 - 12:53 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 07 April 2021 - 12:48 PM, said:

Blend don't do me like this man, the percentage is low, it will be epic if it came off! In a way I will be trying to stop IH. :D

I have the post ready to go if its a yes!



If the percentage was a bit higher, I'd say Blend should let you go for it. But as it is, it's actually practically zero unless you get incredibly lucky. I can't see you pulling out the win with this.


Morale boost, destroy two ships when one ship is destroyed, my agent ability, my odds are better than you think.


Again, not unless all your ships survive the journey, which is unlikely. Morgoth's upgraded destroyers and fighters are pretty potent.

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Posted 07 April 2021 - 01:04 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 07 April 2021 - 12:57 PM, said:

I think then I'm just going to pass.



Boo! Attack IH - there's still plenty of glory in that!
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Posted 07 April 2021 - 01:11 PM

Other than IH, it sounds mad but I could take everyone's homeworld. I was planning on being a bitch and taking Blend's out of spite. Yours Khell for being super aggressive to me all game. Twelve's although that'd be a close battle. Morgoth's with Blend letting me pass through.

If I could get enough ships to Abbaddon Loki etc without using minster of war then I could use Minister to then attack IH's homeworld but I don't think its possible to get enough to the 3 planet system without the Minster play.

But all I am thinking is what is the point. At least attacking Morgoth I had a chance at a VP.
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Posted 07 April 2021 - 01:13 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 07 April 2021 - 01:11 PM, said:

Other than IH, it sounds mad but I could take everyone's homeworld. I was planning on being a bitch and taking Blend's out of spite. Yours Khell for being super aggressive to me all game. Twelve's although that'd be a close battle. Morgoth's with Blend letting me pass through.

If I could get enough ships to Abbaddon Loki etc without using minster of war then I could use Minister to then attack IH's homeworld but I don't think its possible to get enough to the 3 planet system without the Minster play.

But all I am thinking is what is the point. At least attacking Morgoth I had a chance at a VP.


Why is there a chance at a VP vs Morgoth's HW but no one else's?
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Posted 07 April 2021 - 01:15 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 07 April 2021 - 01:11 PM, said:

Other than IH, it sounds mad but I could take everyone's homeworld. I was planning on being a bitch and taking Blend's out of spite. Yours Khell for being super aggressive to me all game. Twelve's although that'd be a close battle. Morgoth's with Blend letting me pass through.

If I could get enough ships to Abbaddon Loki etc without using minster of war then I could use Minister to then attack IH's homeworld but I don't think its possible to get enough to the 3 planet system without the Minster play.

But all I am thinking is what is the point. At least attacking Morgoth I had a chance at a VP.


Taking my home system doesn't even do anything :p

Also, I haven't attacked you the whole game, so I'm not sure how I've been super aggressive to you, when you have broken a deal with me and taken one of my planets, which you still hold.

If you could take Winnu, I could take Loki/Abaddon, which would leave you as the winner - so I'm not sure why I would do that :)
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Posted 07 April 2021 - 01:16 PM

View PostBlend, on 07 April 2021 - 01:13 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 07 April 2021 - 01:11 PM, said:

Other than IH, it sounds mad but I could take everyone's homeworld. I was planning on being a bitch and taking Blend's out of spite. Yours Khell for being super aggressive to me all game. Twelve's although that'd be a close battle. Morgoth's with Blend letting me pass through.

If I could get enough ships to Abbaddon Loki etc without using minster of war then I could use Minister to then attack IH's homeworld but I don't think its possible to get enough to the 3 planet system without the Minster play.

But all I am thinking is what is the point. At least attacking Morgoth I had a chance at a VP.


Why is there a chance at a VP vs Morgoth's HW but no one else's?


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Posted 07 April 2021 - 01:16 PM

View PostBlend, on 07 April 2021 - 01:13 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 07 April 2021 - 01:11 PM, said:

Other than IH, it sounds mad but I could take everyone's homeworld. I was planning on being a bitch and taking Blend's out of spite. Yours Khell for being super aggressive to me all game. Twelve's although that'd be a close battle. Morgoth's with Blend letting me pass through.

If I could get enough ships to Abbaddon Loki etc without using minster of war then I could use Minister to then attack IH's homeworld but I don't think its possible to get enough to the 3 planet system without the Minster play.

But all I am thinking is what is the point. At least attacking Morgoth I had a chance at a VP.


Why is there a chance at a VP vs Morgoth's HW but no one else's?


Because Morgoth holds a 1 VP relic which can be taken off him if someone took a planet in his home system (or a legendary planet off him, but he doesn't hold any)
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Posted 07 April 2021 - 01:16 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 07 April 2021 - 01:16 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 07 April 2021 - 01:13 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 07 April 2021 - 01:11 PM, said:

Other than IH, it sounds mad but I could take everyone's homeworld. I was planning on being a bitch and taking Blend's out of spite. Yours Khell for being super aggressive to me all game. Twelve's although that'd be a close battle. Morgoth's with Blend letting me pass through.

If I could get enough ships to Abbaddon Loki etc without using minster of war then I could use Minister to then attack IH's homeworld but I don't think its possible to get enough to the 3 planet system without the Minster play.

But all I am thinking is what is the point. At least attacking Morgoth I had a chance at a VP.


Why is there a chance at a VP vs Morgoth's HW but no one else's?


+ (RELIC) Shard of the Throne -- When you gain this card, gain 1 victory point; when you lose this card, lose 1 victory point. When a player gains control of a legendary planet you control or a planet you control in your home system, that player gains this card.


OH yeah, duh!

Ah well!
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Posted 07 April 2021 - 01:18 PM

Blend, it will not score me a point to attack Twelve's homeworld, could I move through your ships to do that? It will leave IH to Khell and yourself if possible.
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