[D'rek]

Khellendros, on 06 April 2021 - 02:57 PM, said:

I was just looking at what Tatts could actually bring to Loki, and that's brought up a couple of questions:

- There are 3 Ul fighters on ex-Lodor, but shouldn't they be destroyed as there's nothing there to carry them?

- There are 3 fighters on Cealdri/Xanhact, but only two cruisers to carry them?

Well crapbaskets, I forgot to check (and evidently tatts did too) for that when Tatts moved his ships back to Elysium. Good catch. Give me a sec and I'll update it.

[twelve]

Tattersail_, on 06 April 2021 - 02:40 PM, said:

Actually just looking at Twelve's latest move, I don't think it worth attacking IH just so Twelve can win. I'll take my turn shortly.

Tatts you have a shot at extending the game or flat out winning still. I have no ships or infantry that could make a difference after I took Mirage off IH hence my move. And IH has ground units and a frickin Warsun to bombard past my pds on Winnu so he has a legit shot at taking my homeworld if he isn't going to win. Attacking IH is in your best interest even with you losing a sftt.

[twelve]

Plus you should feel bad for all the attacks you have done against me all these games. You can finally start to pay me back by actually attacking IH. He always seems to avoid the defensive fights early game which usually puts him in the pole position for the win. I'm still shocked you haven't really attacked me outside Thibah which was a not unreasonable move by you. Come to think it; I think every game that we finished you have attacked me. Yes! Its settled. You are totally 100% attacking IH. There is no ifs and or buts about it.

This post has been edited by twelve: 06 April 2021 - 03:24 PM

[Tattersail_]

Honestly I can attack IH and extend the game, but for the life of me I fall a CT short to score the 2VP, and the other's aren't achievable right now. I'll be stuck on 9 points. Khell who did you nominate as speaker, Yourself?

[D'rek]

Tattersail_, on 06 April 2021 - 03:33 PM, said:

Honestly I can attack IH and extend the game, but for the life of me I fall a CT short to score the 2VP, and the other's aren't achievable right now. I'll be stuck on 9 points. Khell who did you nominate as speaker, Yourself?

He didn't specify so it indeed defaulted to himself.

[Imperial Historian]

twelve, on 06 April 2021 - 03:17 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 06 April 2021 - 02:40 PM, said:

Actually just looking at Twelve's latest move, I don't think it worth attacking IH just so Twelve can win. I'll take my turn shortly.

Tatts you have a shot at extending the game or flat out winning still. I have no ships or infantry that could make a difference after I took Mirage off IH hence my move. And IH has ground units and a frickin Warsun to bombard past my pds on Winnu so he has a legit shot at taking my homeworld if he isn't going to win. Attacking IH is in your best interest even with you losing a sftt.

Even if all my warsun bombard shots hit, and I moved all the infantry I could to attack twelve, I'm still odds on to lose a battle for his homeworld. That +2 to hit for mechs and infantry is brutal.

[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 06 April 2021 - 03:37 PM, said:

twelve, on 06 April 2021 - 03:17 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 06 April 2021 - 02:40 PM, said:

Actually just looking at Twelve's latest move, I don't think it worth attacking IH just so Twelve can win. I'll take my turn shortly.

Tatts you have a shot at extending the game or flat out winning still. I have no ships or infantry that could make a difference after I took Mirage off IH hence my move. And IH has ground units and a frickin Warsun to bombard past my pds on Winnu so he has a legit shot at taking my homeworld if he isn't going to win. Attacking IH is in your best interest even with you losing a sftt.

Even if all my warsun bombard shots hit, and I moved all the infantry I could to attack twelve, I'm still odds on to lose a battle for his homeworld. That +2 to hit for mechs and infantry is brutal.

If I attack you and you attack him and weaken his home system, then I could also attack his home world after you, you'd have to retreat. I could plan for that. I don't need as much infantry to take Loki or whatever it is called.

[twelve]

Imperial Historian, on 06 April 2021 - 03:37 PM, said:

twelve, on 06 April 2021 - 03:17 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 06 April 2021 - 02:40 PM, said:

Actually just looking at Twelve's latest move, I don't think it worth attacking IH just so Twelve can win. I'll take my turn shortly.

Tatts you have a shot at extending the game or flat out winning still. I have no ships or infantry that could make a difference after I took Mirage off IH hence my move. And IH has ground units and a frickin Warsun to bombard past my pds on Winnu so he has a legit shot at taking my homeworld if he isn't going to win. Attacking IH is in your best interest even with you losing a sftt.

Even if all my warsun bombard shots hit, and I moved all the infantry I could to attack twelve, I'm still odds on to lose a battle for his homeworld. That +2 to hit for mechs and infantry is brutal.

You will get 6 bombards so dont give me that. I'm very nervous about my chances to win. Especially after the fight with Morgoth in Rex. I was slaughtered.

[Imperial Historian]

Tattersail_, on 06 April 2021 - 03:40 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 06 April 2021 - 03:37 PM, said:

twelve, on 06 April 2021 - 03:17 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 06 April 2021 - 02:40 PM, said:

Actually just looking at Twelve's latest move, I don't think it worth attacking IH just so Twelve can win. I'll take my turn shortly.

Tatts you have a shot at extending the game or flat out winning still. I have no ships or infantry that could make a difference after I took Mirage off IH hence my move. And IH has ground units and a frickin Warsun to bombard past my pds on Winnu so he has a legit shot at taking my homeworld if he isn't going to win. Attacking IH is in your best interest even with you losing a sftt.

Even if all my warsun bombard shots hit, and I moved all the infantry I could to attack twelve, I'm still odds on to lose a battle for his homeworld. That +2 to hit for mechs and infantry is brutal.

If I attack you and you attack him and weaken his home system, then I could also attack his home world after you, you'd have to retreat. I could plan for that. I don't need as much infantry to take Loki or whatever it is called.

If you attack me, I'll just use imperial to score a point and claim 2nd. I'm not just leaving the game for khell to win!

[Khellendros]

D, on 06 April 2021 - 03:35 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 06 April 2021 - 03:33 PM, said:

Honestly I can attack IH and extend the game, but for the life of me I fall a CT short to score the 2VP, and the other's aren't achievable right now. I'll be stuck on 9 points. Khell who did you nominate as speaker, Yourself?

He didn't specify so it indeed defaulted to himself.

Oh yeah, I totally forgot about that bit of Politics! For some reason perhaps I deemed it unlikely to matter

[twelve]

Imperial Historian, on 06 April 2021 - 03:44 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 06 April 2021 - 03:40 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 06 April 2021 - 03:37 PM, said:

twelve, on 06 April 2021 - 03:17 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 06 April 2021 - 02:40 PM, said:

Actually just looking at Twelve's latest move, I don't think it worth attacking IH just so Twelve can win. I'll take my turn shortly.

Tatts you have a shot at extending the game or flat out winning still. I have no ships or infantry that could make a difference after I took Mirage off IH hence my move. And IH has ground units and a frickin Warsun to bombard past my pds on Winnu so he has a legit shot at taking my homeworld if he isn't going to win. Attacking IH is in your best interest even with you losing a sftt.

Even if all my warsun bombard shots hit, and I moved all the infantry I could to attack twelve, I'm still odds on to lose a battle for his homeworld. That +2 to hit for mechs and infantry is brutal.

If I attack you and you attack him and weaken his home system, then I could also attack his home world after you, you'd have to retreat. I could plan for that. I don't need as much infantry to take Loki or whatever it is called.

If you attack me, I'll just use imperial to score a point and claim 2nd. I'm not just leaving the game for khell to win!

I don't believe this for a second. Playing mind games with Tatts. Shame on you but have to admire the high level play.

[Tattersail_]

This is a tough decision. I can increase my fleet capacity to 9 and move in on Loki this turn.

[Tattersail_]

Even if I do someone would still need to take 1 more influence from IH. So before I make my decision can someone show me exactly how they are going to accomplish that?

[twelve]

Tattersail_, on 06 April 2021 - 09:00 PM, said:

This is a tough decision. I can increase my fleet capacity to 9 and move in on Loki this turn.

If you can take Loki why wouldn't you also take Abaddon as well? There are no troops there. That is 4 influence removed leaving IH with 6 influence on his remaining 4 influence planets and 7 trade hoods. That's 4 CT plus the 1 he has left in Strategic leaving him 1 short. Can you not take both?

[Tattersail_]

He has Arnor Lor 3 inf and 3 in his home system hasn't he? With 6 tgs. That's 12 influence. He can buy 4 CTs plus the 2 he has already.

[Blend]

Tattersail_, on 06 April 2021 - 10:24 PM, said:

He has Arnor Lor 3 inf and 3 in his home system hasn't he? With 6 tgs. That's 12 influence. He can buy 4 CTs plus the 2 he has already.

He only has 1 CT at the moment. 4+1=5.

[twelve]

Blend, on 06 April 2021 - 10:55 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 06 April 2021 - 10:24 PM, said:

He has Arnor Lor 3 inf and 3 in his home system hasn't he? With 6 tgs. That's 12 influence. He can buy 4 CTs plus the 2 he has already.

He only has 1 CT at the moment. 4+1=5.

This. His current CT count is 0T/5F/1S so him gaining 4 is fine.

[Imperial Historian]

I am surprised you are even thinking of making this move. There is zero chance it results in you winning, and almost guarantees your final position will be lower, but if you are that determined to stop me winning after what I thought was a pretty good alliance this game go ahead.

[Morgoth]

I was talking with a friend in my boardgame group the other day, reminiscing about the grand strategy games we haven't been able to play for more than a year. And discussing previous sessions, I realised there's a noticeable difference in my playstyle there compared to here. When we play TI in real life, I am much more agressive and expansionist, whereas here I tend to fall into a pattern of expanding somewhat and then hunkering down. The win rate is roughly the same, but I wonder why that is. Perhaps all the additional time to mull over my moves makes me more paranoid of having missed something.

[Imperial Historian]

Morgoth, on 07 April 2021 - 05:30 AM, said:

I was talking with a friend in my boardgame group the other day, reminiscing about the grand strategy games we haven't been able to play for more than a year. And discussing previous sessions, I realised there's a noticeable difference in my playstyle there compared to here. When we play TI in real life, I am much more agressive and expansionist, whereas here I tend to fall into a pattern of expanding somewhat and then hunkering down. The win rate is roughly the same, but I wonder why that is. Perhaps all the additional time to mull over my moves makes me more paranoid of having missed something.

I'm also a lot more aggressive player in real life. I think forum play rewards a more conservative play as everyone has the chance to spot the weaknesses that inevitably open up in forum play, whereas you are much more likely to get away with risky moves in real life.

Or because it's going to take 3 months I'm much more risk averse where a 6 hour game if I'm losing at least it's over soon.