[Blend]

Bahahaha

[Imperial Historian]

Blend, on 10 December 2020 - 09:48 PM, said:

D, on 10 December 2020 - 09:46 PM, said:

Blend, on 10 December 2020 - 09:45 PM, said:

Has the action card where you can research a tech gone by yet?

If I got that, I could give Tatts my Research Agreement, research Fleet Logistics for him to copy, and if Tatts gets technology, I could trade it back to him again, research X-89 for him to copy, and then as his second action on his turn he could potentially take Drek's homeworld.

Plagiarize has been played. Focused Research has not (but it requires 4 TG).

Yes, well, with ERes, its pretty easy for me to get someone to get me the 1 extra TG I need for that. So fingers crossed I guess!

I have focused research. And the above doesn't work as d'rek would go before you could do the the research.

[Blend]

Imperial Historian, on 10 December 2020 - 09:52 PM, said:

Blend, on 10 December 2020 - 09:48 PM, said:

D, on 10 December 2020 - 09:46 PM, said:

Blend, on 10 December 2020 - 09:45 PM, said:

Has the action card where you can research a tech gone by yet?

If I got that, I could give Tatts my Research Agreement, research Fleet Logistics for him to copy, and if Tatts gets technology, I could trade it back to him again, research X-89 for him to copy, and then as his second action on his turn he could potentially take Drek's homeworld.

Plagiarize has been played. Focused Research has not (but it requires 4 TG).

Yes, well, with ERes, its pretty easy for me to get someone to get me the 1 extra TG I need for that. So fingers crossed I guess!

I have focused research. And the above doesn't work as d'rek would go before you could do the the research.

If Drek has Imperial, I'd go before her, so I don't think so.

Though it's a moot point if you have Focused Research. Owell.

This post has been edited by Blend: 10 December 2020 - 09:52 PM

[Imperial Historian]

Not if tatts took technology. You'd have to research after technology has been played.

[D'rek]

Blend, on 10 December 2020 - 09:51 PM, said:

Bahahaha

Also, it would not be a tie. One of you would win and one of you would still lose, depending on initiative order/speaker order. So I can't see the losing player agreeing to this since they get nothing out of it, unless they're really, really, really,really, really, really, really, really spitefully mad at me... and I don't think I did anything *that* bad to anyone this game???

[Imperial Historian]

Blend, on 10 December 2020 - 09:50 PM, said:

Couldn't Twelve and I just swap SftT during Agenda Phase and end the game in a tie?

You could but twelve would only have 9 points so you'd win. Depends what value twelve places on maximising his own points I guess.

[D'rek]

Yeah, the tech exchange thing won't work with the actual TECH strategy card, because there will be no time for anyone to make a move between then and my turn. You'd have to do it with Focused Research, or with the tech from the agenda.

[D'rek]

Imperial Historian, on 10 December 2020 - 09:55 PM, said:

You could but twelve would only have 9 points

and that^^^^

[Blend]

Imperial Historian, on 10 December 2020 - 09:53 PM, said:

Not if tatts took technology. You'd have to research after technology has been played.

No, if I gave Tatts my Research Agreement during agenda phase, had focused research and say Warfare, I would play before Tatts, use Focused Research to research FLeet Logistics, Tatts would copy, then I'd throw some ships at her HW to weaken the ships there if I could, and trade my Research Agreement back to Tatts, then on Tatts' turn he would use Tech, I'd research X-89, he would copy, then cause he already has Fleet Logistics, he could take another action to attack her HW.

But again, totally moot.

[Blend]

D, on 10 December 2020 - 09:54 PM, said:

Blend, on 10 December 2020 - 09:51 PM, said:

Bahahaha

Also, it would not be a tie. One of you would win and one of you would still lose, depending on initiative order/speaker order. So I can't see the losing player agreeing to this since they get nothing out of it, unless they're really, really, really,really, really, really, really, really spitefully mad at me... and I don't think I did anything *that* bad to anyone this game???

Don't worry, I wouldn't do that, it's a straight up dick move, and I prefer my dick moves to be less straight up.

[Blend]

Blend, on 10 December 2020 - 09:56 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 10 December 2020 - 09:53 PM, said:

Not if tatts took technology. You'd have to research after technology has been played.

No, if I gave Tatts my Research Agreement during agenda phase, had focused research and say Warfare, I would play before Tatts, use Focused Research to research FLeet Logistics, Tatts would copy, then I'd throw some ships at her HW to weaken the ships there if I could, and trade my Research Agreement back to Tatts, then on Tatts' turn he would use Tech, I'd research X-89, he would copy, then cause he already has Fleet Logistics, he could take another action to attack her HW.

But again, totally moot.

Shit, I've played a few games on TTS and since then I always forget that we don't do secondaries immediately in forum format. If we were playing IRL, we could manage the above. LoL

[D'rek]

Blend, on 10 December 2020 - 09:56 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 10 December 2020 - 09:53 PM, said:

Not if tatts took technology. You'd have to research after technology has been played.

No, if I gave Tatts my Research Agreement during agenda phase, had focused research and say Warfare, I would play before Tatts, use Focused Research to research FLeet Logistics, Tatts would copy, then I'd throw some ships at her HW to weaken the ships there if I could, and trade my Research Agreement back to Tatts, then on Tatts' turn he would use Tech, I'd research X-89, he would copy, then cause he already has Fleet Logistics, he could take another action to attack her HW.

But again, totally moot.

Your research from him playing TECH wouldn't happen until your next turn.

And you could skip the Fleet Logistics + TECH strategy card parts and just do Focused Research -> he copies X-89. No point in Fleet Logistics if the first action of his turn is just going to be getting X-89 anyways.

Also... I still have his ceasefire.

[Blend]

D, on 10 December 2020 - 09:59 PM, said:

Blend, on 10 December 2020 - 09:56 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 10 December 2020 - 09:53 PM, said:

Not if tatts took technology. You'd have to research after technology has been played.

No, if I gave Tatts my Research Agreement during agenda phase, had focused research and say Warfare, I would play before Tatts, use Focused Research to research FLeet Logistics, Tatts would copy, then I'd throw some ships at her HW to weaken the ships there if I could, and trade my Research Agreement back to Tatts, then on Tatts' turn he would use Tech, I'd research X-89, he would copy, then cause he already has Fleet Logistics, he could take another action to attack her HW.

But again, totally moot.

Your research from him playing TECH wouldn't happen until your next turn.

And you could skip the Fleet Logistics + TECH strategy card parts and just do Focused Research -> he copies X-89. No point in Fleet Logistics if the first action of his turn is just going to be getting X-89 anyways.

Also... I still have his ceasefire.

STILL MOOT!

[Imperial Historian]

Blend, on 10 December 2020 - 09:56 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 10 December 2020 - 09:53 PM, said:

Not if tatts took technology. You'd have to research after technology has been played.

No, if I gave Tatts my Research Agreement during agenda phase, had focused research and say Warfare, I would play before Tatts, use Focused Research to research FLeet Logistics, Tatts would copy, then I'd throw some ships at her HW to weaken the ships there if I could, and trade my Research Agreement back to Tatts, then on Tatts' turn he would use Tech, I'd research X-89, he would copy, then cause he already has Fleet Logistics, he could take another action to attack her HW.

But again, totally moot.

No tatts plays tech, you don't actually research anything until your next turn so he can't copy x89. In a real life game with simultaneous secondaries that would work but not with forum rules.

In a real life game you could trade your racial back mid research and do a double research if he took technology but in this case it doesn't work.

I guess the game could also end with an action phase SO if tatts or blend have one.

[Blend]

So yeah, I don't see any way that we can prevent Drek from winning at this point.

[Blend]

Imperial Historian, on 10 December 2020 - 10:00 PM, said:

I guess the game could also end with an action phase SO if tatts or blend have one.

Or this. Definitely shoulda spent my ST on getting a different SO last round, owell.

[D'rek]

Blend, on 10 December 2020 - 10:00 PM, said:

So yeah, I don't see any way that we can prevent Drek from winning at this point.

1. Vote AGAINST on Wormhole Research so I don't diplo my HW.
2. You draw a flank speed. Someone draws a sabotage.
3. Twelve picks Leadership and plays it first thing
4. You use leadership secondary to put more CTs in your fleet pool
5. You attack my HW with flagship + 4 cruisers w/ 4 inf on your first turn. Should be a close battle, but it's possible.
6. Whoever drew that sabotage plays it when I play Parley on your invasion of Moll Primus.
7. Win the ground combat in Moll Primus.

^^seems like the only way

Well, that or similar to the above but with IH attacking and I roll zero hits against his lone cruiser.

[D'rek]

And then I queue up the starcraft trailer and go full "MY BRETHERN TODAY WE RETAKE OUR HOMELAND"

[Blend]

D, on 10 December 2020 - 10:11 PM, said:

And then I queue up the starcraft trailer and go full "MY BRETHERN TODAY WE RETAKE OUR HOMELAND"

I *am* an Artanis fanboi.

[Tattersail_]

Yes, acs have not been handed out so theres a chance.