[Tattersail_]

Agreed

[Tattersail_]

Does Drek pillage both you and IH on that transaction?

[D'rek]

Tattersail_, on 25 November 2020 - 01:45 PM, said:

Does Drek pillage both you and IH on that transaction?

Yes. They have both "resolved a transaction".

[Blend]

Tattersail_, on 25 November 2020 - 01:38 PM, said:

Agreed

Do you not have any desire to win this game? Just rather give it to Drek?

[Tattersail_]

Blend, on 25 November 2020 - 02:00 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 25 November 2020 - 01:38 PM, said:

Agreed

Do you not have any desire to win this game? Just rather give it to Drek?

I'd like to win yeah if I activate your systems 4 times can I get 16 tgs? That'd be nice

[Blend]

Tattersail_, on 25 November 2020 - 02:01 PM, said:

Blend, on 25 November 2020 - 02:00 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 25 November 2020 - 01:38 PM, said:

Agreed

Do you not have any desire to win this game? Just rather give it to Drek?

I'd like to win yeah if I activate your systems 4 times can I get 16 tgs? That'd be nice

You could have fooled me, given Drek owns half the Galaxy and you're just giving her more.

Also, you said you aren't doing any deals with me any more after having bullied me into voting FOR on the last agenda. Have you changed your mind? Did you really expect me to sit back and do nothing for IH after you all bullied me into exploding his ships against my better judgment? Sorry, but that's not the type of game I play. I play to win, not to give someone else a win.

[Blend]

Tattersail_, on 25 November 2020 - 02:01 PM, said:

Blend, on 25 November 2020 - 02:00 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 25 November 2020 - 01:38 PM, said:

Agreed

Do you not have any desire to win this game? Just rather give it to Drek?

I'd like to win yeah if I activate your systems 4 times can I get 16 tgs? That'd be nice

He is getting 12 TGs in exchange for 4 activations, your math is wrong.

[Tattersail_]

4 activations is 16 TG. I was just hoping you'd give all those TGs to me as my ships exploded last round.

My point being you can make whatever deal you want. You've not dealt with me at all this game so I dont expect you to start now.

As for Drek, I've got an amicable relationship with her this game. Pretty much similar to you and IH.

If you want to stop Drek gaining/holding all those planets then do something about it.

Although be careful of the point leader Twelve who may be holding a grudge against you early days.

I'm not in any position to help you out. You'll have to manage that yourself.

[Blend]

Tattersail_, on 25 November 2020 - 02:14 PM, said:

4 activations is 16 TG. I was just hoping you'd give all those TGs to me as my ships exploded last round.

My point being you can make whatever deal you want. You've not dealt with me at all this game so I dont expect you to start now.

As for Drek, I've got an amicable relationship with her this game. Pretty much similar to you and IH.

If you want to stop Drek gaining/holding all those planets then do something about it.

Although be careful of the point leader Twelve who may be holding a grudge against you early days.

I'm not in any position to help you out. You'll have to manage that yourself.

For 4 activations, I get 16TGs, 12 of which go to IH. It's pretty simple math Tatts.

There's a difference between an amicable relationship and just giving the win to someone. Why not at least elect one of your planets for the second agenda instead of giving Drek both agendas? Huh? What's the fun in playing this game for someone else?

As for me doing something, I've tried already, haven't I? Whereas you're just sitting there doing nothing. You're the Sol, you're the one who actually has power to do something to change the outcome of this game where Drek is concerned. Why is the person who's farthest from her (me) responsible for dealing with her? Oh right, because as usual you don't play to win.

This post has been edited by Blend: 25 November 2020 - 02:19 PM

[Blend]

Also, wtf are you talking about your ships exploded last round? You lost like 3 things last round, IH lost almost his entire fleet. Are you really such an asshole that you want to just eliminate IH? Gods you're a real fucking treat.

[Tattersail_]

Excuse you. I am getting a spacedock out of it that can help me build my fleet back up.

IH will be getting a dread.

So why are you thinking that'll give Drek the game hey?

I've already voted.

If there was another way for the first agenda to pop and give me the rider I'd have done that but this way was simpler

[Blend]

Right, so giving the person who already owns half the galaxy even more is worth a space dock and a dread? I don't think so. I can't believe how fricking naive you are.

[Tattersail_]

Take a chill pill Blend. If you go back to the start of last round I said to IH I would not be attacking him. Yet he chose to blow up my spacedock and mess with my plans. He didn't want to trade with me. Every game gets has been in the situation I was in he has rinsed me for PNs and more. All I wanted was the mentak racial PN in exchange for not posting diplomacy on Lazar. Instead he blew up my spacedock and traded it to you. Then preceded to activate your systems and receive 12 TGs.

That sounds fair.

All my trade is here is my votes for her votes. She helps me get my spacedock back and I help her get a 5 influence system.

[Blend]

Drek: 23 votes
Tatts: 20 votes
Blend: 11 votes
IH: 1 vote
Twelve: 9 votes

===

Alright, so if Drek and Tatts vote as they noted, the rest of us can still force a tie on the second agenda.

Twelve and IH - I'm going to throw all my votes on Torkan for Senate Sanctuary. I recommend you both place all your votes there too. It's about our only chance to keep it out of Drek's hands.

[Tattersail_]

Let's not forget Drek is on 2 points whereas Twelve is on 6.

[Blend]

Tattersail_, on 25 November 2020 - 02:27 PM, said:

Take a chill pill Blend. If you go back to the start of last round I said to IH I would not be attacking him. Yet he chose to blow up my spacedock and mess with my plans. He didn't want to trade with me. Every game gets has been in the situation I was in he has rinsed me for PNs and more. All I wanted was the mentak racial PN in exchange for not posting diplomacy on Lazar. Instead he blew up my spacedock and traded it to you. Then preceded to activate your systems and receive 12 TGs.

That sounds fair.

All my trade is here is my votes for her votes. She helps me get my spacedock back and I help her get a 5 influence system.

Like she'd ever vote for anyone else for that agenda... *roll eyes* She's not giving you anything you wouldn't have gotten anyway, so you're just GIVING her a 5 influence planet for nothing.

[Tattersail_]

D, on 25 November 2020 - 01:20 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 24 November 2020 - 11:33 AM, said:

Drek I will use all my votes towards you on the other agenda if you help my construction rider pass. I think you have 23 votes and I have 20. The rest have 21 votes between them I think.

I think you'll want the strategic token as it could come in clutch in later rounds.

If you vote 23 votes on that one it should go through barring any shenanigans.

If you do then I'll vote 20 on a planet of your choice for the other one.

Modification to this: I'll put 22 votes to myself for Arbiter, and 1 vote towards Rarron for Senate Sanctuary. You put all votes towards Rarron for Senate Sanctuary. (Otherwise they can all put their votes towards a planet for Senate Sanctuary, tie your 20 votes, and win it with Speaker resolving the tie.) Agreed?

(I fully expect they will play Bribery or Distinguished Councilor to win one of these anyway, but that's ok I want to bait those cards out sooner rather than later.)

21 votes on yourself for arbiter should see that through as only Blend and Twelve can vote on that one.

2 vote plus mine on the other for Rarron should see that one through.

[Blend]

Tattersail_, on 25 November 2020 - 02:29 PM, said:

Let's not forget Drek is on 2 points whereas Twelve is on 6.

Let's also not forget that Twelve has 6 planets whereas Drek has 13.

Twelve has access to 8 resources and 9 influence, whereas Drek has 22 resources and 23 influence.

Twelve has 2 non-fleet CTs, Drek has 3.

Twelve has 12TGs but no easy way to continue gaining them, Drek has 12TGs and will continue to amass them constantly thanks to the Mentax.

So yeah, Twelve may be in first place VP-wise, but Drek has him beat in every other metric of the game. But go on trying to convince me that giving her more is a good idea.

This post has been edited by Blend: 25 November 2020 - 02:34 PM

[Tattersail_]

Drek NEEDS imperial to catch up. So depends who is grabbing that or leaving it to her.

[Tattersail_]

Blend, on 25 November 2020 - 02:33 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 25 November 2020 - 02:29 PM, said:

Let's not forget Drek is on 2 points whereas Twelve is on 6.

Let's also not forget that Twelve has 6 planets whereas Drek has 13.

Twelve has access to 8 resources and 9 influence, whereas Drek has 22 resources and 23 influence.

Twelve has 2 non-fleet CTs, Drek has 3.

Twelve has 12TGs but no easy way to continue gaining them, Drek has 12TGs and will continue to amass them constantly thanks to the Mentax.

So yeah, Twelve may be in first place VP-wise, but Drek has him beat in every other metric of the game. But go on trying to convince me that giving her more is a good idea.

And when Twelve grabs Meer and has 2 extra influence on Tokan. 2 vp scored easily.

He has an SO and would only need to score a single point PO. So its game over pretty soon if you feed him.