[Morgoth]

hm, you all let tatts extend so without consequence, and now his systems are safe once more and there's much less to be done about it.

[Morgoth]

I, of course, bear no responsibility.

[Morgoth]

IH, that sucks! But I am glad to hear you're finding something new already. Is it something you're genuinely excited about, or more an emergency choice?

[Imperial Historian]

Morgoth, on 22 September 2020 - 06:00 AM, said:

IH, that sucks! But I am glad to hear you're finding something new already. Is it something you're genuinely excited about, or more an emergency choice?

It would essentially be a promotion. My layer of management is being removed, and replaced by adding one person to the layer above me, I'd be pretty happy if I got it as that's what I was working towards anyway.

[Imperial Historian]

Morgoth, on 22 September 2020 - 05:57 AM, said:

hm, you all let tatts extend so without consequence, and now his systems are safe once more and there's much less to be done about it.

I am concerned that I made a mistake there. Tatts has played very well.

Tatts looking at the board situation are positions are roughly equal (if you spent the max amount of each planet in resources/influence you'd have the same as me, though your racial ability and tgs put you slightly ahead).

I'm fairly happy with that situation, however if I cede lazar sakulag to you, that 3 resource swing puts you 6 ahead of me, and since twelve seems unable to dislodge you from bereg lirta this doesn't seem likely to change.

I don't see how that would end in any situation other than me losing, so I'd need to use my superior fleet against you, but this would end up benefiting other players more.

I don't really want to do that so is there some agreement we can make to prevent that happening, and I can focus on others? I was thinking you would leave me lazar sakulag and we can both concentrate on expanding elsewhere.

[Tattersail_]

I'm not comfortable leaving a route through to my homeworld. We discussed Lazar sakalug and I've left it for more than enough with you including letting you exhaust it this round. Leaving AF for you by taking BL to score my SO and have that production gave you great convenience and created conflict across the board for me. Our SFTT means we both have a secure border and your set up means you can take other systems too. Morgoth has high influence planets and has actually done harm to your race. The path through MR is clear so you're not blocked from moving to pastures new.

[Imperial Historian]

Tattersail_, on 22 September 2020 - 09:49 AM, said:

I'm not comfortable leaving a route through to my homeworld. We discussed Lazar sakalug and I've left it for more than enough with you including letting you exhaust it this round. Leaving AF for you by taking BL to score my SO and have that production gave you great convenience and created conflict across the board for me. Our SFTT means we both have a secure border and your set up means you can take other systems too. Morgoth has high influence planets and has actually done harm to your race. The path through MR is clear so you're not blocked from moving to pastures new.

I'm not adverse to advancing elsewhere, but I'm equally not comfortable leaving a clear route to my homeworld, which your ships already have, and will only be exacerbated by you occupying lazar sakulag. I only agreed to vacate lazar sakulag, I can just as easily reoccupy it within the terms of our agreement. I'm open to other options but right now you are clearly getting the most out of this.

[Tattersail_]

I have no interest in losing your SFTT. You can always put ships in the system next to Lazar to block any access. I cannot believe you are trying to back out of our arrangements

[Morgoth]

People always back out of agreements, especially those that are designed for the long haul. At some point it stops making sense, and in the end there's only one player winning.

[Tattersail_]

At this stage there's no clear forerunner. Everyone has similar chances.

[Blend]

Yeah, that's right Tatts, don't let them talk you into making their lives easier. I'll continue to keep to myself if you keep out of my systems. I don't want war.

[Blend]

Also Morgoth, I really hope you don't think I'm gonna just let you gain a foothold in my territory? I've no interest in neighbouring you so you can steal my action cards. I'll be dealing with your cruiser on my next turn.

[Blend]

Tatts - prolly going to be taking Qucenn/Rarron later this round - we had kind of an agreement that whoever got there first would take one planet and leave one for the other. I'm planning to invade both, but will move out and leave one of them without any ground forces on it for you. Any preference?

[Tattersail_]

No that's okay. Whatever you choose

[Blend]

Any idea yet when you're planning to play Warfare? My guess at the moment is you want to Orbital Drop at least once more before doing so, just wondering.

[Blend]

Imperial Historian, on 22 September 2020 - 07:08 AM, said:

Tatts looking at the board situation are positions are roughly equal (if you spent the max amount of each planet in resources/influence you'd have the same as me, though your racial ability and tgs put you slightly ahead).

This is such a load of crap, by the way.

Let's have a look at your positions right now...

Tatts has 13 resources and 17 influence spread across 7 planets (including Mecatol Rex).

You have 18 resources and 8 influence spread across 10 planets.

So I know you're likely trying to imply that Tatts' influence advantage balances out your resource advantage, but the fact that his are spread across less planets means that he more often has to give up resources for influence or vice versa. Not to mention, it's certainly nicer for an L1Z1X player to have resource heavy planets.

And that's not even mentioning the fact that you're legit swimming in CTs right now. Tatts is at 0/3/1, you're at 4/5/2. If a CT is worth 3 influence, you've got the equivalent of 21 influence more sitting in your bank than Tatts does.

Tatts may be looking nice, but he has spread himself thin. I don't think that he should be agressive towards you, but I also don't think he should be rolling over for you, and I certainly don't think he currently holds the advantage between the two of you. Quit your fear mongering, IH. I won't be turning on Tatts any time soon, particularly not because of a poor attempt to demonize him by the guy who's won several games already.

[twelve]

Whenever IH goes I'm passing right after so Blend feel free to post my pass post and make your next move

[Tattersail_]

Blend, on 22 September 2020 - 01:10 PM, said:

Any idea yet when you're planning to play Warfare? My guess at the moment is you want to Orbital Drop at least once more before doing so, just wondering.

That depended on whether Twelve was going to attack or not.

If he passes though it'll be my next action

[Morgoth]

Blend, on 22 September 2020 - 01:02 PM, said:

Also Morgoth, I really hope you don't think I'm gonna just let you gain a foothold in my territory? I've no interest in neighbouring you so you can steal my action cards. I'll be dealing with your cruiser on my next turn.

I can steal from whomever, no shared border required. The cruiser is there for the PO.

[twelve]

Tattersail_, on 22 September 2020 - 04:43 PM, said:

Blend, on 22 September 2020 - 01:10 PM, said:

Any idea yet when you're planning to play Warfare? My guess at the moment is you want to Orbital Drop at least once more before doing so, just wondering.

That depended on whether Twelve was going to attack or not.

If he passes though it'll be my next action

Attack with what? All my ships are locked down and I dont have any Strategic tokens nor resources to use warfare. And what is IH waiting for anyway? Does he not know it's his turn?