[Sheltatha Lore]

Gait, on 18 May 2020 - 09:50 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 18 May 2020 - 09:48 PM, said:

I believe it’s because Skintick came on day 2 and went straight for Thyrllan again like a dog with a bone.

If I remember correctly

Yes, First vote on thyr twice in a row.

Not quite

I did first vote day one. But it doesn’t matter.
Day one vote wouldn’t matter in this particular line of thinking.

[Gait]

Barghast, on 18 May 2020 - 10:12 PM, said:

Gait, on 18 May 2020 - 09:23 PM, said:

It occurs to me how wild it would be for scum if both Thyr and Venesara were infact Killers.

Imagine knowing either choice was bad.



It would also explain the Thyr Fandaray vote.

"Imagine how wild it would be if... " statements are suspicious even irl

Fair enough however I am looking at it quite seriously atm. Thyrllen was scum, there was a perfectly viable train to jump on at a critical point in the game when heat was building up.

Anyone can see how Thyr would benefit yet they did not do so...why?

[Gait]

Sheltatha Lore, on 18 May 2020 - 10:18 PM, said:

Gait, on 18 May 2020 - 09:50 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 18 May 2020 - 09:48 PM, said:

I believe it’s because Skintick came on day 2 and went straight for Thyrllan again like a dog with a bone.

If I remember correctly

Yes, First vote on thyr twice in a row.

Not quite

I did first vote day one. But it doesn’t matter.
Day one vote wouldn’t matter in this particular line of thinking.

Yes, I admit you were the first vote day 1. I overlooked it with the remove vote onto Kalse.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Gait, on 18 May 2020 - 10:19 PM, said:

Barghast, on 18 May 2020 - 10:12 PM, said:

Gait, on 18 May 2020 - 09:23 PM, said:

It occurs to me how wild it would be for scum if both Thyr and Venesara were infact Killers.

Imagine knowing either choice was bad.



It would also explain the Thyr Fandaray vote.

"Imagine how wild it would be if... " statements are suspicious even irl

Fair enough however I am looking at it quite seriously atm. Thyrllen was scum, there was a perfectly viable train to jump on at a critical point in the game when heat was building up.

Anyone can see how Thyr would benefit yet they did not do so...why?

While I fully agree with you on this point, My vote for Rikkter had similar logic attached to it and if I remember correctly you seemed to not like it. Yet here it is suiting you just fine I see.

Interesting.

[Tennes]

Barghast, on 18 May 2020 - 10:07 PM, said:

Tennes, on 18 May 2020 - 09:23 PM, said:

Now, real talk. Is there any interest to pursue Ruse? I feel better about my vote on them right now than I'd feel about anyone else. They're coasting, waiting for a train to build, dropping a safe late vote and then disappearing again. Safely disengaged from any real discussion but present enough to vote and claim participation. It screams low-posting scum to me.

What happened to your suspicion of Prazec?

I'm still suspicious of Prazec but there seems to be zero interest in lynching them at the moment and I find Ruse equally scummy. Not that there is a huge appetite for Ruse but I'm more hopeful because the case is based on more tangible evidence.

EDIT
Added the quote for context.

This post has been edited by Tennes: 18 May 2020 - 10:38 PM

[Hanas]

My brain hurts trying to make sense of some of this. I'm going to sleep on it - I will get a break before timeout tomorrow so look out for a late vote from me.

Since I was asked;

Sheltatha Lore, on 18 May 2020 - 10:41 AM, said:

Hanas, on 18 May 2020 - 10:04 AM, said:

Who the hell plays this much over the weekend?

Anyway genuine apologies for last week, either the terrible twos arrived 6 months late or the threes are here 6 months early. Have been utterly drained and exhausted all last week. Things look to have calmed down a little now so I hope to be able to actually play a bit now. Lots of quote-in-quote-in-quote is going to make it a pain but I'm going to try for at least a read up this evening.

Try not to lynch anyone until then, please.

finally, it makes an appearance.
Ive been in lockdown for over a month...every day is a weekend


anyways......care to retort on the case against you?

I've been in lockdown for 2 months. Every day is most certainly not a weekend. I haven't had a break in 8 weeks.

The case against me is that I made a vote that wasn't actually needed, no? Given that PS hadn't annouced a lynch had occurred and it was near the end of the day I thought it better safe than sorry. That seems to have irked people. I get irked by a failed D1 lynch leading to rehashing the same Day all over again. Oh well.

[Gait]

Sheltatha Lore, on 18 May 2020 - 10:27 PM, said:

Gait, on 18 May 2020 - 10:19 PM, said:

Barghast, on 18 May 2020 - 10:12 PM, said:

Gait, on 18 May 2020 - 09:23 PM, said:

It occurs to me how wild it would be for scum if both Thyr and Venesara were infact Killers.

Imagine knowing either choice was bad.



It would also explain the Thyr Fandaray vote.

"Imagine how wild it would be if... " statements are suspicious even irl

Fair enough however I am looking at it quite seriously atm. Thyrllen was scum, there was a perfectly viable train to jump on at a critical point in the game when heat was building up.

Anyone can see how Thyr would benefit yet they did not do so...why?

While I fully agree with you on this point, My vote for Rikkter had similar logic attached to it and if I remember correctly you seemed to not like it. Yet here it is suiting you just fine I see.

Interesting.

I dont understand, You've said alot about Rikkter, can youremind me specifically when you used similar logic?

[Rikkter]

Ok you all, let's get one thing straight: I presented a comprehensive case (I know, long-ass, tl;dr, whiny babies) on Tennes that boiled down to his interactions with Thyr, which were continually designed to remove pressure from his scummate. The crux of Tennes' rebuttal was "that's stupid, I voted for Thyr, durr" with a mic drop that probably no one heard. In the meantime, there has been some massive OMGUS voting for me going on, with SL diving right into the fray as usual to stir up shit and get the pressure off the masters asses.

So whatever, vote me out you twats. You definitely have time to revisit your mistakes when you get my CF. I don't personally give a fuck.

But if you are town and want to be an honest ass player, go read it all for yourself and then come to your own conclusions. Seemed obvious to me, but maybe I am just that much smarter than the rest of you pig-headed eejits.

And finally, I am not going to comment on Kalse because someone put some warm fuzzy votes on me first and then distracted from my case. Take care of Tennes (or me, free country and all), and then work on it. Don't get lost in the verbal vomit of scum multi-casing.

Peace.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Gait, on 18 May 2020 - 10:39 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 18 May 2020 - 10:27 PM, said:

Gait, on 18 May 2020 - 10:19 PM, said:

Barghast, on 18 May 2020 - 10:12 PM, said:

Gait, on 18 May 2020 - 09:23 PM, said:

It occurs to me how wild it would be for scum if both Thyr and Venesara were infact Killers.

Imagine knowing either choice was bad.



It would also explain the Thyr Fandaray vote.

"Imagine how wild it would be if... " statements are suspicious even irl

Fair enough however I am looking at it quite seriously atm. Thyrllen was scum, there was a perfectly viable train to jump on at a critical point in the game when heat was building up.

Anyone can see how Thyr would benefit yet they did not do so...why?

While I fully agree with you on this point, My vote for Rikkter had similar logic attached to it and if I remember correctly you seemed to not like it. Yet here it is suiting you just fine I see.

Interesting.

I dont understand, You've said alot about Rikkter, can youremind me specifically when you used similar logic?

I said.. MY VOTE for Rikkter.
in other words the post I decided to vote him. like two pages back.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Rikkter, on 18 May 2020 - 10:40 PM, said:

Ok you all, let's get one thing straight: I presented a comprehensive case (I know, long-ass, tl;dr, whiny babies) on Tennes that boiled down to his interactions with Thyr, which were continually designed to remove pressure from his scummate. The crux of Tennes' rebuttal was "that's stupid, I voted for Thyr, durr" with a mic drop that probably no one heard. In the meantime, there has been some massive OMGUS voting for me going on, with SL diving right into the fray as usual to stir up shit and get the pressure off the masters asses.

So whatever, vote me out you twats. You definitely have time to revisit your mistakes when you get my CF. I don't personally give a fuck.

But if you are town and want to be an honest ass player, go read it all for yourself and then come to your own conclusions. Seemed obvious to me, but maybe I am just that much smarter than the rest of you pig-headed eejits.

And finally, I am not going to comment on Kalse because someone put some warm fuzzy votes on me first and then distracted from my case. Take care of Tennes (or me, free country and all), and then work on it. Don't get lost in the verbal vomit of scum multi-casing.

Peace.

[COT] ----->> toys

[Barghast]

Hanas, on 18 May 2020 - 10:36 PM, said:

My brain hurts trying to make sense of some of this. I'm going to sleep on it - I will get a break before timeout tomorrow so look out for a late vote from me.

Since I was asked;

Sheltatha Lore, on 18 May 2020 - 10:41 AM, said:

Hanas, on 18 May 2020 - 10:04 AM, said:

Who the hell plays this much over the weekend?

Anyway genuine apologies for last week, either the terrible twos arrived 6 months late or the threes are here 6 months early. Have been utterly drained and exhausted all last week. Things look to have calmed down a little now so I hope to be able to actually play a bit now. Lots of quote-in-quote-in-quote is going to make it a pain but I'm going to try for at least a read up this evening.

Try not to lynch anyone until then, please.

finally, it makes an appearance.
Ive been in lockdown for over a month...every day is a weekend


anyways......care to retort on the case against you?

I've been in lockdown for 2 months. Every day is most certainly not a weekend. I haven't had a break in 8 weeks.

The case against me is that I made a vote that wasn't actually needed, no? Given that PS hadn't annouced a lynch had occurred and it was near the end of the day I thought it better safe than sorry. That seems to have irked people. I get irked by a failed D1 lynch leading to rehashing the same Day all over again. Oh well.

I give the unneeded vote accusation no weight and still think you're scummy, as in you fit the general profile of a hiding killer very well. Nothing to go by in the light of Thyr's CF since you haven't had any interaction with him.

[Barghast]

Tennes, on 18 May 2020 - 10:36 PM, said:

Barghast, on 18 May 2020 - 10:07 PM, said:

Tennes, on 18 May 2020 - 09:23 PM, said:

Now, real talk. Is there any interest to pursue Ruse? I feel better about my vote on them right now than I'd feel about anyone else. They're coasting, waiting for a train to build, dropping a safe late vote and then disappearing again. Safely disengaged from any real discussion but present enough to vote and claim participation. It screams low-posting scum to me.

What happened to your suspicion of Prazec?

I'm still suspicious of Prazec but there seems to be zero interest in lynching them at the moment and I find Ruse equally scummy. Not that there is a huge appetite for Ruse but I'm more hopeful because the case is based on more tangible evidence.

EDIT
Added the quote for context.

I think they're a very good scum candidate in light of the cf. I wouldn't bet much on the freudian slip, tho there's still the thing that scum tend to slip do more and bigger slips. Anyway Prazec ain't said much but twice mentioned Thyr as a secondary or so suspicion, then there was the hammer with some time to go (suspicious because town wouldn't know Thyr would turn up scum, and scum would want to be on the train), and with no pressure over himself has been absent since

Prazec Goul, on 13 May 2020 - 04:53 PM, said:

Ok it took a while to catch up and I’m on my phone while I wrap up work.

Two things really stand out to me from the last 24 hours:

Aranatha’s fit. He says he was just “poking”, but he definitely created a stir over skintik. This play doesn’t usually read as a killer to me, since they tend to want to blend in. Speculation on whether there is a symp and if so is it him is not likely to get us anywhere at this point, but I’ll be keeping my eyes open.

Thyr and his perfectly averageness. That comment has bothered me, and I agree he seems to be playing that way. I’d like to hear more before timeout.

And Okral. Kalse’s case is pretty decent. Who plays Malazan Mafia and is afraid to say anything? FFS post drunk if you have to! His play for sympathy reads off, and I don’t get the Merrid vote.

I don’t want to rush through the lynch, but I will be voting either Okral or Thyr.

Prazec Goul, on 15 May 2020 - 05:06 PM, said:

Ok, I’ve missed quite a bit. I like the Hanas case, and am going to go back and read him myself. Kalse seems too reasonable for me to want to buy into his Venesara case. Whenever I find myself thinking that about a player, they always turn out to be scum. And Thyr just looks scummy.

Prazec Goul, on 15 May 2020 - 08:53 PM, said:

I was just about to vote, and saw Thyr is already on L1. Sorry my readup took so long, still a lot going on personally.

I would also vote Thyr today. He’s given me bad vibes since his perfectly average comment, and his post padding after being called out for coasting looks wrong.

Prazec Goul, on 15 May 2020 - 08:55 PM, said:

Screw it, I don’t think we’ll hear from him.

vote Thyr

But now we've got such a nice a reaction from Rikkter

[Barghast]

Here's the interaction for all

Gait, on 18 May 2020 - 02:05 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 18 May 2020 - 10:39 AM, said:

Looking at this now...
Considering Thyr is scum...why at this point would he not simply jump onto a push against Rikkte here?... it would be dead easy and non suspicious to simply agree.
instead he makes an excuse for Rikkter's aggressiveness brushing it off? It wouldn't hurt him at all to have added to the argument against Rikkter if Rikkter is inno yet he seems to be defending them.

Seems like he was subtly is trying to disregard looking at Rikkter to me.

remove vote
Vote Rikkter


I assume all the symp shouting will come out at me shortly, but I am gonna keep calling it as I see it.

Jump onto Rikkter????

Venesara had a viable case at the time and Thyr seemed iffy about it but willing. Why didnt he jump there instead? Thyrs vote on Fandaray lacked any follow up whatsoever. Of ALL the players Thyr pointed fingers at, none actually had anything going except for Venesara and Thyr pointedly overlooked that.

Why would you now use this as reasoning to vote Rikkter? It's blatant support of Thyrs read.

I cant tell if this is calculated or actually just really bad symp play.

edit: the Shel Gait interaction

This post has been edited by Barghast: 18 May 2020 - 11:05 PM

[Sheltatha Lore]

could you elaborate more what you mean Barghast?
Im struggling to see your actual point here in your last two posts...

[Barghast]

But to address the point of both of you, maybe he wanted to look like he's coming up with some sort of town-helpful activity of his own instead of merely following other people's ideas?

Sheltatha Lore, on 18 May 2020 - 11:09 PM, said:

could you elaborate more what you mean Barghast?
Im struggling to see your actual point here in your last two posts...

The posts are all idnependent of each other

[Barghast]

Barghast, on 18 May 2020 - 11:12 PM, said:

But to address the point of both of you, maybe he wanted to look like he's coming up with some sort of town-helpful activity of his own instead of merely following other people's ideas?

This should be the relevant vote update

Path-Shaper, on 14 May 2020 - 08:56 PM, said:

It is day 2. About 25 hours remaining.

19 people left alive. Aranatha, Barghast, Fanderay, Gait, Gamelon, Hanas, Jalan, Kalse, Kilava, Okaros, Osseric, Prazec Goul, Rikkter, Ruse, Sheltatha Lore, Skintick, Tennes, Thyr, Venesara.

1 vote Okaros; Sheltatha Lore
1 vote Prazec Goul; Tennes
3 votes Venesara; Kilava, Kalse, Okaros
2 votes Thyrllan; Skintick, Jalan


Players not voted; Aranatha, Barghast, Fanderay, Gait, Gamelon, Hanas, Osseric, Prazec Goul, Rikkter, Ruse, Thyr, Venesara.

Still a day left, Venesara has one more vote, Thyr didn't really yet had that big a reason to feel that threatened

[Sheltatha Lore]

Barghast, on 18 May 2020 - 11:12 PM, said:

But to address the point of both of you, maybe he wanted to look like he's coming up with some sort of town-helpful activity of his own instead of merely following other people's ideas?

Sheltatha Lore, on 18 May 2020 - 11:09 PM, said:

could you elaborate more what you mean Barghast?
Im struggling to see your actual point here in your last two posts...

The posts are all idnependent of each other

don't make sense to me. either way.
second post just references a interaction...but no explanation with what you are seeing?

[Barghast]

Sheltatha Lore, on 18 May 2020 - 11:17 PM, said:

Barghast, on 18 May 2020 - 11:12 PM, said:

But to address the point of both of you, maybe he wanted to look like he's coming up with some sort of town-helpful activity of his own instead of merely following other people's ideas?

Sheltatha Lore, on 18 May 2020 - 11:09 PM, said:

could you elaborate more what you mean Barghast?
Im struggling to see your actual point here in your last two posts...

The posts are all idnependent of each other

don't make sense to me. either way.
second post just references a interaction...but no explanation with what you are seeing?

It's just the interaction you and Gait are talking about quoted for better thread readability

[Sheltatha Lore]

Barghast, on 18 May 2020 - 11:12 PM, said:

But to address the point of both of you, maybe he wanted to look like he's coming up with some sort of town-helpful activity of his own instead of merely following other people's ideas?

My thinking was that he didn't just do it for one person at that point...he ignored a few opportunities to hitch on another trailer and didn't bother.

its..weird.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Barghast, on 18 May 2020 - 11:18 PM, said:

It's just the interaction you and Gait are talking about quoted for better thread readability

ooooh for Gait..he didn't know what I was referring to...coool cool. I get it now.