[Gait]

Sheltatha Lore, on 17 May 2020 - 09:45 PM, said:

Gait, on 17 May 2020 - 09:42 PM, said:

Sheltatha...why are you defending Tennes?

Is this not the type of thing they should be doing?

am I defending tennes?

all i've done is clear up MY part in these accusations as they are not entirely accurate to me.

By defend I mean to say, everything Rikkter has said about you doesnt need a response?

if anything all he has said is that you link to Tennes whom the case is actually focused on.

Why bother about Rikkters read on you if its saying stuff just to link over?

I mean you've defended this already right?

[Sheltatha Lore]

Rikkter, on 17 May 2020 - 06:23 PM, said:

Continued...

Here is more of SL discussing her own role.

Sheltatha Lore, on 13 May 2020 - 09:37 AM, said:

Ruse, on 13 May 2020 - 07:50 AM, said:

Can someone tell me why we are assuming there is a symp? I don't see anything in the first few posts about the killers' organization.

Size of the game would indicate a certainly that some form of sumo exists. And... assuming there is one is better than assuming there isn't.

Sheltatha Lore, on 13 May 2020 - 09:43 AM, said:

there is some very irritating autocorrects happening with me on this forum. hopefully people can decipher it e.g Sumo = Symp.

you... quote an EDIT explanation ?...really?
okay...

[Sheltatha Lore]

Gait, on 17 May 2020 - 09:49 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 17 May 2020 - 09:45 PM, said:

Gait, on 17 May 2020 - 09:42 PM, said:

Sheltatha...why are you defending Tennes?

Is this not the type of thing they should be doing?

am I defending tennes?

all i've done is clear up MY part in these accusations as they are not entirely accurate to me.

By defend I mean to say, everything Rikkter has said about you doesnt need a response?

if anything all he has said is that you link to Tennes whom the case is actually focused on.

Why bother about Rikkters read on you if its saying stuff just to link over?

I mean you've defended this already right?

im only reading it now dude. relax

I post as I read.

And I like to clear up anything I know to be bullshit.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Rikkter, on 17 May 2020 - 06:39 PM, said:

And now pointing out Thyr mentions from Tennes as he tries to get momentum under anyone else. (See red highlights).

Tennes, on 14 May 2020 - 10:56 AM, said:

If this is a freudian slip, why not vote the person who slipped? But yeah, I feel like there's more to that slip so for now I'm gonna go for Prazec.Later today I'll be rereading the thread to look at a couple of players who had a fair bit of activity but somehow flew completely under my radar D1, like Gait, Kalse, and Barghast. I saw some mentions of suspicion about Thyr too and gun to head I couldn't tell you what that's about, so I definitely need to backtrack and read up on this as well.On another note, I find it amusing how Aranatha says they were 'prodding me' when in fact they went fucking apoplectic over a single post.Right now, though:Vote Prazec

The next quote reeks of diffusing interest in Thyr without flat out writing him off.

Tennes, on 14 May 2020 - 06:55 PM, said:

Okay, I reread the thread and there are some loose thoughts from that. I found Sheltatha to look much better on another read. They're all over the place but making decent observations, prodding and applying pressure. Weird mistake with a signalling vote early on but despite being the most active player I can't really poke more holes in their game.I still don't quite get the Thyr thing but will get to that below.The first interesting interaction from D1 is when Kalse joke-votes Gait after a pun and Gait needs three posts to talk themselves out of it. They're trying too hard to convince us they're legit.

Gait, on 12 May 2020 - 06:19 AM, said:

WIFOMisms aside I appreciate your eagerness.[rebuttal]I am not signaling. I just like puns.[/rebuttal]

Gait, on 12 May 2020 - 08:55 AM, said:

Oh I see. I'd suggest he/she/they might just like puns also?Don't take my word for it. Do as you like.Shelly seems a bit all over the place, too eager imho.

Gait, on 12 May 2020 - 10:31 AM, said:

Well I personally didn't understand Kalses wording, at that point a joke was a joke was a joke. I didn't actively "overlook" anything as you put it there. Just felt it was piling speculation on top of speculation.Kalse was kind enough to explain his/her meaning. I can see why the vote was made.

Around this point two things happen that, in hindsight, shaped D1. Thyr gets 2 votes (Skintick & Sheltatha) and then I post my signalling case. The reaction to my case is more or less this:* Okral gets weirdly defensive/nervous/self-pitying* Prazec posts a silly reply about symping* Aranatha melts down* Shel calls out my case as dumb and calls out Aranatha for going HAMThis leads to the Sheltathat/Aranatha face-off and the Okral train. Gait has since claimed at least twice that the Thyrllan train was derailed/railroaded. There were two early-game votes but not even much scrutiny, so I'd hardly call that a train. So while obviously I want to hear more from Thyr, Gait's insistence there was an effort to divert attention from Thyr is pushing a narrative that didn't really happen. It's similar to what Ruse did with their claim that lynching me or Aranatha was the only viable solution for D1: trying to force the discussion into an unnecessarily narrow frame. Gait did it much more subtly though.Now, here's a twist. For all their talking about derailment, Gait does this:

Gait, on 13 May 2020 - 05:37 AM, said:

[WALL OF QUOTES CUT FOR LENGTH - Tennes]I'll be honest, Aranatha and Sheltatha read hyper sensitive right now...although Aranatha might be the type of player to dive into arguments feet first. Shelly seems to have an "anywhere but here" vibe. I noted that before.Its early and I tend to credit Symp cases once everyone has had a say. Still, I think someone hit the mark and scum might be flooding pages to draw attention off. The only player that has had any real heat on them was Thyrllen whos been extremely mild. Sheltatha started that train and I agree with the "perfectly average" reasoning. Sheltatha hasn't leaned into Thyrllen despite Thyrs continued mild play style. that feels a bit off. Okral Lom has also been perfectly average and chill but keeps a sharp eye on the game. I think there may be something here. I keep thinking were I scum i'd play like one of these two.

Gait, on 13 May 2020 - 09:26 AM, said:

[WALL OF QUOTES INCLUDING RUSE's POST, CUT FOR LENGTH - Tennes]Tennes only had one vote on him till just now. Aranathas argument on Tennes was flat out instinctual and few actually bought in.If anything all Ruse does in this post is divert the vote to Tennes from what looked like an Okral lynch. Creating a split where before there was none.This reads like derailment from Ruse who was otherwise none existent.Vote Okral LomThis is the informative vote.

So in a span of few hours, Gait goes from this is a derailment to jumping on the train. Before their vote there was 3 on Okral, 2 on me, and 1 on Skintick. So for someone claiming Okral train and Shel/Ara argument and Ruse's post were all attempts to derail, Gait surely made peace very quickly with jumping on the Okral train with a vote that was crucial to give it momentum.I need to make more tea and answer some emails now but more to follow. In the meantime, I'd like Gait to explain helping push the Okral train if you thought it was an attempt at derailment?

To be continued...

This is the first thing I can agree on with you in your case.
there is definitely some potential attempts at directing traffic away from Thyr there.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Rikkter, on 17 May 2020 - 06:53 PM, said:

Continued...



And after some distancing from Thyr, and as the train on Thyr builds, Tennes starts making noises of capitulating reluctantly that Thyr could be scum, but still insisting better candidates exist.

Tennes, on 14 May 2020 - 11:47 PM, said:

@Hanas

Hanas, on 14 May 2020 - 08:43 PM, said:

Tennes, on 14 May 2020 - 08:27 PM, said:

Votes 7-11: Aranatha, Ruse, Jalan, Prazec, Merrid.At this stage of the train there are also three alternative suggestions: Merrid (from Okral), Thyr (from Barghast), Osseric (from Hanas).Honorable mentions go to Venesara, who at L-1 and an hour or so to timeout was pondering what we're waiting for WITHOUT CASTING A VOTE and Hanas who was around before timeout but held with switching from Osseric until the lynch was already secured and gave some weird ass 'just in case of a miscount' justification.

If it had been needed I'd be enjoying you humbly licking my feet right about now.[SNIP]

Yes Hanas, if you did something useful, that would have been good. But instead you decided to be useless instead. Not exactly the townie move you're trying to present it to be.@Gait

Gait, on 14 May 2020 - 09:01 PM, said:

Tennes, on 14 May 2020 - 06:55 PM, said:

[snip]So in a span of few hours, Gait goes from this is a derailment to jumping on the train. Before their vote there was 3 on Okral, 2 on me, and 1 on Skintick. So for someone claiming Okral train and Shel/Ara argument and Ruse's post were all attempts to derail, Gait surely made peace very quickly with jumping on the Okral train with a vote that was crucial to give it momentum.I need to make more tea and answer some emails now but more to follow. In the meantime, I'd like Gait to explain helping push the Okral train if you thought it was an attempt at derailment?

I think this argument is not quite saying what I think you want it to say. Heres why:1. my interaction with Kalse was off a misread of his suspicion of Okral Lom whom he thought might be symping me. I didn't understand that and thought Kalse was hating on my bear joke. Kalse explained their reasoning and I saw their point of view. that took three replies from me, 2 from Kalse and a Vote on Kalse from Sheltatha to resolve. Note Sheltatha made the same mistake and was happy to Vote on it then retract said vote when I was corrected.2. I'm not pushing the derailment argument, quite the opposite. I have said several times that it looks like derailment. That doesn't mean I am convinced that it is. Thats a direct misrepresentation. I may suspect Thyr as he went quite after garnering some heat but there's nothing from Thyr to actually warrant a case against them yet. Nothing tangible and that is even more alarming. Day 1 came to an end with 0 voting activity from Thyr, and they may be entering modkill territory for inactivity. I think this is the perfect player for scum to try pile on suspicion so I'm taking a step back.

1. Fair enough.2. Waaaaait a minute. This part:I'm not pushing the derailment argument, quite the opposite. I have said several times that it looks like derailment. That doesn't mean I am convinced that it is.is a meaningless, contradictory word salad. You're now saying you're pushing THE OPPOSITE of the argument that Thyr train was derailed, which apparently means that it only LOOKS LIKE IT WAS but you are not sure whether it in fact was. What? Is this some Schoredinger's argument where you think there both was and wasn't an attempt to derail that train.This are your words Gait (block quotes snipped):

Gait, on 13 May 2020 - 05:37 AM, said:

I'll be honest, Aranatha and Sheltatha read hyper sensitive right now...although Aranatha might be the type of player to dive into arguments feet first. Shelly seems to have an "anywhere but here" vibe. I noted that before.Its early and I tend to credit Symp cases once everyone has had a say. Still, I think someone hit the mark and scum might be flooding pages to draw attention off. The only player that has had any real heat on them was Thyrllen whos been extremely mild.Sheltatha started that train and I agree with the "perfectly average" reasoning. Sheltatha hasn't leaned into Thyrllen despite Thyrs continued mild play style. that feels a bit off. Okral Lom has also been perfectly average and chill but keeps a sharp eye on the game. I think there may be something here. I keep thinking were I scum i'd play like one of these two.

Gait, on 13 May 2020 - 05:19 PM, said:

I generally agree with this.Okral aside I think The train on Thyr was derailed. I still stand by my vote since its highly informative. I am less confident of Okral with the random vote on Merrid.If Okral is PI we have alot to look at voting wise.

Gait, on 14 May 2020 - 03:54 PM, said:

Okral gone and in my opinion railroaded to distract from Thyrllen. Will reread to confirm it but I recall two or three overt efforts to push the vote away from thyr.Will try lay down my thoughts later once I have had a look at the voting.

How is this pushing the opposite of the derailment argument? You literally said, more than once, that you believe Thyr train was derailed. Why backtrack from this now?I'm done for the day but I have a day off tomorrow so will be around if people want to chat. I want to lynch Prazec and test the freudian slip theory so I'll stay for now. Hopefully someone follows that idea.Between Thyrllan and Venesara, I'll admit to having been convinced by Kalse'e arguments against Ven but now Barghast makes a good point that Ven train has Okral 2.0 written all over it.Thyr has indeed started posting and yet it feels like the flurry of posts didn't actually bring much substance. Not sure yet which way I'd lean if these were the only lynch candidates.

At this point I am still reading, but I had to post all those quotes. I don't know what the fuck Tennes was thinking, but he is painting himself into a corner with all these deflections from Thyr. It seems crazy obvious to me here, especially reading through and knowing Thyr is scum.

aaah YES...this was the batch of stuff Tennes said when I did my re-read that made me have second thoughts on him too.
If I remember correctly Gait was making noise about Thyr just before this, and it stood out to me that suddenly Tennes made a case on him.

In fact I think Kasle was another one that made similar types pf posts.
Anarathas too.

There where a few that stood out.
Thats why I said Day 2 seems to have most of the better info.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Barghast, on 17 May 2020 - 06:59 PM, said:

Kalse, on 17 May 2020 - 06:37 PM, said:

Good stuff there Rikkter, but two comments:

1. Until your vote, I thought you were going for Shelthata
2. Since you know that day 2 ended with a scum lynch, don't you think it's worth getting that rereading done before throwing your vote?

Do you call a case from which it's not even clear to you who's it about a good stuff?

EXACTLY what I was thinking.
The good stuff hadn't even been posted yet!!

[Sheltatha Lore]

Rikkter, on 17 May 2020 - 07:01 PM, said:

Gait, on 15 May 2020 - 12:38 PM, said:

I like the case. It echoes a few of my thoughts early on Day 2.

Still I'm suspicious of Sheltathas misvote on Thyrllen.

I mean both Thyrllen and Hanas make good candidates for scum. Sheltatha looked to be interested in Thyrllen then almost immediately goes after Bharghast/Hanas.

Either its ADD or diverting attention.

I'm not sure I trust it.

Hammer on the nail. Additionally supportive of my suspicion of SL. I must confess, I feel like without the mishaps of having one of their own caught out early, SL is playing quite the game. Joke finger Thyr to take them off the table, and rinse and repeat for Day 2. Jumping on Hanas was a good direction too, because you have a hard core like me latching on with noises from other people supporting suspicion of Hanas. A great pick for an alternative lynch, a case that isn't muddled with all the other suspicions, fingerings and confusion and simple enough to be a quick read and not give the reader a headache.

Slow clap to you SL.

wouldn't it have simply been easier to NOT forget to remove my vote before voting Thyr tho?
surely that would have been smarter. Instead of getting this type of shit reasoning applied to me? just think about it.

I was in the middle of making my Hanas case when THyr came back with his flurry of posts, I was very unimpressed to say the least..and thought he deserved a vote because his response was weak AF.
When I had finished my case on Hanas I changed my vote to MY CASE because why not? after all I didn't KNOW Thyr was really scum and I liked my Hanas case.. and I still do! hence my vote today.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Rikkter, on 17 May 2020 - 07:22 PM, said:

Ah right, sorry I misunderstood you. Kalse has been pinging me a lot in my reread, but I am staying focused on Tennes until he is lynched.

Im glad you noticed.
That is what I noticed too.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Barghast, on 17 May 2020 - 08:05 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 17 May 2020 - 07:42 PM, said:

Barghast, on 17 May 2020 - 07:25 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 17 May 2020 - 07:16 PM, said:

Tennes, on 15 May 2020 - 05:58 PM, said:

Decision time.

Like I said, Venesara case seemed solid to me but on another read they just feel too sloppy to be scum.

It's a toss up between Thyr and Hanas. Both are coasters, both feel scummy, both had a blunder of a post. Neither case feels stronger to me so I'm gonna go with a pragmatic vote. More people so far have commented on Thyr and I think their CF is more valuable than Hanas's.

Remove vote.

Vote Thyr.

AHHHHHH, there it is. The vote on Thyr from Tennes, middle of the road of course, with more caveats to down play this vote all the way, even offering up Hanas as the alternative, someone he has not spent too much time fingering up to this point. 5 votes on Thyr at this point is a risky proposition, but the weight of the thread is still fixated on Thyr's odd behavior, and if Tennes is going to claim they are innocent of being in cahoots, they need to make their presence on the lynch train early enough to look supportive not just capitulating a the last minute.

And you claim you didn't have the knowledge of this vote when you started on the case? Seems convenient enough

Believe what you like. I always put a lot of weight on Day 1 for my initial rereads, and I thus made that my priority. Reading Day 2 and Day 3 were going to be tasks of their own, to be compared to my day 1 impression once I made it. It is how I work.

This isn't just a reread tho, you came out of nowhere with a complete D1 case, caliming little knowledge of Tennes' play onwards from there, and miraculously enough reading on wall after wall of quotes not a sliver of doubt has swayed you and you became more and more adamant

I wish my rereads had such perfect forms of cases complete with a vote at their beginning

I'm not necessarily downplaying your case in it's quality, nor defending Tennes, but find your behaviour scummy af rn

vote Rikkter

This is valid...

I tend to agree with you, although no one will care as I am apparenlty a symp in this matter, and anything I say will be disregarded, or used, one way or another to further a "Tennes centric" narrative.
While I do have some reservations on some of the the stuff Tennes had posted on day two (now knowing that Thyrllan is scum)....when I read it yesterday, there was more than one person that stood out to me with exactly the same kinds of things this case its build on.


I obviously take offence to allot of the reasoning behind the accusations regarding myself, as it has been skewed to support a narrative in that respect.

I also want to hear what Rikkter's thoughts are on Kalse.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Looks like im all alone.

guess ill go sleep..

[Okaros]

I too was a bit confused when Tennes, after posting a bunch of reasoned suspicions about others, went and put a vote on Thyrrlan instead. Afterwards, I mostly discounted it because Tennes' was the swing vote which turned the tide inexorably on to Thyrrlan - before that, I wouldn't say it was certain that Thyr was going to be lynched. Still, if you're going to help lynch fellow scum, that's ideally where you'd want to be on the train.

[Hanas]

Who the hell plays this much over the weekend?

Anyway genuine apologies for last week, either the terrible twos arrived 6 months late or the threes are here 6 months early. Have been utterly drained and exhausted all last week. Things look to have calmed down a little now so I hope to be able to actually play a bit now. Lots of quote-in-quote-in-quote is going to make it a pain but I'm going to try for at least a read up this evening.

Try not to lynch anyone until then, please.

[Okaros]

Thyrllan, on 14 May 2020 - 10:07 PM, said:

Tennes, on 14 May 2020 - 08:27 PM, said:

Okay, moving on.

After Gait's vote I also moved to Okral and then Fanderay shows up, drops another vote, and at this point Okral is and left as the only viable lynch for the day. So let's break down the train, shall we?

Votes 1-3: Rikkter, Skintick, Kalse.
The people who built the original case against Okral. A solid one, as I admitted on D1.

Votes 4-6: Gait, me, Fanderay.
I believe the three of us gave the train enough momentum to seal Okral's fate for better or worse (hindsight: obviously worse).

Votes 7-11: Aranatha, Ruse, Jalan, Prazec, Merrid.
At this stage of the train there are also three alternative suggestions: Merrid (from Okral), Thyr (from Barghast), Osseric (from Hanas).
Honorable mentions go to Venesara, who at L-1 and an hour or so to timeout was pondering what we're waiting for WITHOUT CASTING A VOTE and Hanas who was around before timeout but held with switching from Osseric until the lynch was already secured and gave some weird ass 'just in case of a miscount' justification.

Bunch of quick thoughts from reviewing the train:
* For all the talk about derailing the train on Thyr, there is zero scrutiny on Rikkter and Kalse. Skintick is at least consistent, they were onto Thyr from early on. Jalan is voting Thyr already and Gait is pushing the derailing narrative I talked about in the previous post. I find it very curious that you two are circling back to this game's first almost-train but none of you even name-dropped the person who started it? What the hell.
* Ruse's vote is extremely convenient. Called out for the bullshit post about lynching me or Ara swiftly brushed it off and moved on to a safe vote on a secure lynch train.
* Venesara and Hanas are full of shit.

As for Thyr, whose presence or lack thereof is getting a lot of attention, they're coasting. That's never a good sign and they very well might be a quiet partner to a more vocal killer. There are others I'm more suspicious of but come on out Thyr, it's D2, high time you said something of substance.

Hey, analyzing vote trains is/was my bag!

Anyway, I like this type of thinking a lot. Rikkter was pretty aggressive with people. Yes, we needed a lynch but I think he might just be a jerk.

In general, more posting = more likely to get heat, so it is probably a little suspicious to not have any on Kalse or Skintick.

On the other hand from my previous post:

Reading through posts from/about Thyr, this one stands out to me so far. Would Thyr be so overt with agreeing with Tennes ("I like this type of thinking a lot," if they were partners?).

[Sheltatha Lore]

Okaros, on 18 May 2020 - 10:11 AM, said:

Thyrllan, on 14 May 2020 - 10:07 PM, said:

Tennes, on 14 May 2020 - 08:27 PM, said:

Okay, moving on.

After Gait's vote I also moved to Okral and then Fanderay shows up, drops another vote, and at this point Okral is and left as the only viable lynch for the day. So let's break down the train, shall we?

Votes 1-3: Rikkter, Skintick, Kalse.
The people who built the original case against Okral. A solid one, as I admitted on D1.

Votes 4-6: Gait, me, Fanderay.
I believe the three of us gave the train enough momentum to seal Okral's fate for better or worse (hindsight: obviously worse).

Votes 7-11: Aranatha, Ruse, Jalan, Prazec, Merrid.
At this stage of the train there are also three alternative suggestions: Merrid (from Okral), Thyr (from Barghast), Osseric (from Hanas).
Honorable mentions go to Venesara, who at L-1 and an hour or so to timeout was pondering what we're waiting for WITHOUT CASTING A VOTE and Hanas who was around before timeout but held with switching from Osseric until the lynch was already secured and gave some weird ass 'just in case of a miscount' justification.

Bunch of quick thoughts from reviewing the train:
* For all the talk about derailing the train on Thyr, there is zero scrutiny on Rikkter and Kalse. Skintick is at least consistent, they were onto Thyr from early on. Jalan is voting Thyr already and Gait is pushing the derailing narrative I talked about in the previous post. I find it very curious that you two are circling back to this game's first almost-train but none of you even name-dropped the person who started it? What the hell.
* Ruse's vote is extremely convenient. Called out for the bullshit post about lynching me or Ara swiftly brushed it off and moved on to a safe vote on a secure lynch train.
* Venesara and Hanas are full of shit.

As for Thyr, whose presence or lack thereof is getting a lot of attention, they're coasting. That's never a good sign and they very well might be a quiet partner to a more vocal killer. There are others I'm more suspicious of but come on out Thyr, it's D2, high time you said something of substance.

Hey, analyzing vote trains is/was my bag!

Anyway, I like this type of thinking a lot. Rikkter was pretty aggressive with people. Yes, we needed a lynch but I think he might just be a jerk.

In general, more posting = more likely to get heat, so it is probably a little suspicious to not have any on Kalse or Skintick.

On the other hand from my previous post:

Reading through posts from/about Thyr, this one stands out to me so far. Would Thyr be so overt with agreeing with Tennes ("I like this type of thinking a lot," if they were partners?).

Looking at this now...
Considering Thyr is scum...why at this point would he not simply jump onto a push against Rikkte here?... it would be dead easy and non suspicious to simply agree.
instead he makes an excuse for Rikkter's aggressiveness brushing it off? It wouldn't hurt him at all to have added to the argument against Rikkter if Rikkter is inno yet he seems to be defending them.

Seems like he was subtly is trying to disregard looking at Rikkter to me.

remove vote
Vote Rikkter


I assume all the symp shouting will come out at me shortly, but I am gonna keep calling it as I see it.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Hanas, on 18 May 2020 - 10:04 AM, said:

Who the hell plays this much over the weekend?

Anyway genuine apologies for last week, either the terrible twos arrived 6 months late or the threes are here 6 months early. Have been utterly drained and exhausted all last week. Things look to have calmed down a little now so I hope to be able to actually play a bit now. Lots of quote-in-quote-in-quote is going to make it a pain but I'm going to try for at least a read up this evening.

Try not to lynch anyone until then, please.

finally, it makes an appearance.
Ive been in lockdown for over a month...every day is a weekend


anyways......care to retort on the case against you?

[Okaros]

Kilava may have been the real swing that sealed the Thyrllan lynch - they removed from Venesara to vote Thyrllan. The thing that apparently convinced them was what they saw as Osseric's suspicious hesitancy to vote for Thyrllan - so I'd be interested to know what Kilava thinks of Osseric now. I had a look through Osseric's posts myself and there isn't much to go on there - a lot of chat (in a few sentences) that makes them seem careful and considerate, stuff about how mafia games work, and a slight run-in with Sheltatha. Very much a softly softly approach that doesn't give much away. Talks about carefully weighing up all the interactions which Thyrllan had but doesn't seem like they've done that yet themselves.

Edit: misspelled ThyrLLan.

This post has been edited by Okaros: 18 May 2020 - 10:58 AM

[Okaros]

Here are the things Thyrllan was 'suspicious' of:

- Twice felt that Tennes was being scummy.
- Ruse looking like they're deflecting from Okral (then says however Okral turned out to be town duh).
- Suspected Prazec of signalling myself (which, by the way, is something that Thyr's previous suspect Tennes also said...).
- Aranatha stirring the pot.
- Jokingly suggests that they would vote for Venesara for acting/posting in the same way as them (Thyr) has been doing.

For what it's worth (not sure it's worth anything), the only people/posts that Thyr interacted with more than once were Sheltatha, Tennes, Kalse, and Prazec. Never had any interactions with or with the posts of: Aranatha (but mentioned), Gait, Hanas, Osseric, Okaros (me), Jalan, Kilava, Okral (dead), Gamelon (all but dead).

[Venesara]

Holy hell, I was already dreading the catch up, but I had no idea it would be so much.

[Prazec Goul]

Ok back and catching up. I’m glad PS did a 72 hour day, because my time has been limited.

[Gait]

Sheltatha Lore, on 18 May 2020 - 10:39 AM, said:

Looking at this now...
Considering Thyr is scum...why at this point would he not simply jump onto a push against Rikkte here?... it would be dead easy and non suspicious to simply agree.
instead he makes an excuse for Rikkter's aggressiveness brushing it off? It wouldn't hurt him at all to have added to the argument against Rikkter if Rikkter is inno yet he seems to be defending them.

Seems like he was subtly is trying to disregard looking at Rikkter to me.

remove vote
Vote Rikkter


I assume all the symp shouting will come out at me shortly, but I am gonna keep calling it as I see it.

Jump onto Rikkter????

Venesara had a viable case at the time and Thyr seemed iffy about it but willing. Why didnt he jump there instead? Thyrs vote on Fandaray lacked any follow up whatsoever. Of ALL the players Thyr pointed fingers at, none actually had anything going except for Venesara and Thyr pointedly overlooked that.

Why would you now use this as reasoning to vote Rikkter? It's blatant support of Thyrs read.

I cant tell if this is calculated or actually just really bad symp play.