[Okaros]

Reading back through Aranatha at the moment - they don't actually bring up symps as much as I thought I did, it is more other people (like Shelly) saying it about them and then they responding. But on a different note, I thought the post below was worth discussing - agreement with Kalse about the early voters (like Gait) on Thyr's train.

Aranatha, on 16 May 2020 - 07:13 AM, said:

Kalse, on 16 May 2020 - 06:59 AM, said:

The underlined at least are very probable inno to me

That's reasonable enough. Perhaps the difference in view on when or if scum lands on a train depends on what play style you're personally used to. I tend to look at the most likely target, also because of the difficulty in the task of trying to figure out where a scum would land in the train. In the middle? The end? Would they hammer? I supposed a hammer would make sense in a way. Hmm.

[Okaros]

It's also a little amusing that two of Aranatha's three main targets have been Tennes and Fanderay.

[Okaros]

So, Aranatha. If they had links to any other player it would be Gait, possibly followed by Hanas. Aranatha was totally against Tennes' Gait case from the start, and did more than most to focus back on Tennes. HOWEVER, this is not new: Aranatha's been on Tennes' back from day 1, so if anything you might say they had blinkers on for Tennes, rather than primarily looking to defend and deflect from Gait. Still, the refusal to vote for Gait might be noteworthy. The Hanas link comes from stating that Hanas was more likely inno based on Kalse supposedly trying to divert on to them from the Thyr train...which may be the case.

The only one of the current living suspects whom Ara had anything bad to say was Kilava, who they sort of half-heartedly threw some shade at in a couple of posts. No mentions at all of Osseric.

[Okaros]

Sigh, I'm reading up on the six trying to look for possible connections between them - totally forgot that for all we know Gamelon might have been scum too Still, I'm going to forge ahead with this.

[Barghast]

Okaros, on 26 May 2020 - 10:29 AM, said:

..., but then I also put a lot of stock into RIkkter's case on Tennes, so...

Should have known Tennes is roled as soon as we saw Rikkter's cf

[Okaros]

Why would Thyr not join the Venesara train when it was the most likely other lynch? That's the question that's been bugging us a lot. It seems to make Venesara a potential scum, and yet Kalse was also pushing for it over Thyr. I have a possible answer to this: Thyr jumping on to the Ven train would mean that, of the four votes on Ven at that point, two of them - if not three including Osseric (the fourth would be me) - would have been scum. Ven turns up inno upon a lynch, and all attention then turns onto Thyr and those starting the Venesara train.

[Gait]

I feel no real direction atm. a focus on Osseric seems to have dissolved?

Occams razor suggests the simplest answer is likely the right answer. I agree with a vote on Kilava, Osseric, Aranatha, Hanas or Myself. (these votes would clarify things, coasters/low posters etc. should not get by easily)

If there is any clue to where scum are it'd be around the vote activity on Thyr. So heres the vote activity:

Path-Shaper, on 15 May 2020 - 02:05 PM, said:

It is day 2. About 8 hours remaining.

19 people left alive. Aranatha, Barghast, Fanderay, Gait, Gamelon, Hanas, Jalan, Kalse, Kilava, Okaros, Osseric, Prazec Goul, Rikkter, Ruse, Sheltatha Lore, Skintick, Tennes, Thyr, Venesara.

1 vote Prazec Goul; Tennes
3 votes Venesara; Kilava, Kalse, Okaros
4 votes Thyrllan; Skintick, Jalan, Barghast, Gait
1 vote Fanderay; Thyrllan
2 votes Hanas; Rikkter, Sheltatha Lore
1 vote Barghast; Aranatha



Players not voted; Aranatha, Barghast, Fanderay, Gait, Gamelon, Hanas, Osseric, Prazec Goul, Rikkter, Ruse, Thyr, Venesara.

Path-Shaper, on 15 May 2020 - 05:24 PM, said:

It is day 2. About 4 hours 30 minutes remaining.

19 people left alive. Aranatha, Barghast, Fanderay, Gait, Gamelon, Hanas, Jalan, Kalse, Kilava, Okaros, Osseric, Prazec Goul, Rikkter, Ruse, Sheltatha Lore, Skintick, Tennes, Thyr, Venesara.

1 vote Prazec Goul; Tennes
4 votes Venesara; Kilava, Kalse, Okaros, Osseric
4 votes Thyrllan; Skintick, Jalan, Barghast, Gait
1 vote Fanderay; Thyrllan
2 votes Hanas; Rikkter, Sheltatha Lore
1 vote Barghast; Aranatha



Players not voted; Fanderay, Gamelon, Hanas, Prazec Goul, Venesara.

Path-Shaper, on 15 May 2020 - 07:50 PM, said:

It is day 2. About 2 hours 00 minutes remaining.

19 people left alive. Aranatha, Barghast, Fanderay, Gait, Gamelon, Hanas, Jalan, Kalse, Kilava, Okaros, Osseric, Prazec Goul, Rikkter, Ruse, Sheltatha Lore, Skintick, Tennes, Thyr, Venesara.


2 votes Venesara:Okaros, Osseric
7 votes Thyrllan; Skintick, Jalan, Barghast, Gait, Tennes, Kilava, Kalse
1 vote Fanderay; Thyrllan
2 votes Hanas; Rikkter, Sheltatha Lore
1 vote Barghast; Aranatha



Players not voted; Fanderay, Gamelon, Hanas, Prazec Goul, Ruse, Venesara.

Path-Shaper, on 15 May 2020 - 09:13 PM, said:

[snip]

It is day 2. About 0 hours remaining.

19 people left alive. Aranatha, Barghast, Fanderay, Gait, Gamelon, Hanas, Jalan, Kalse, Kilava, Okaros, Osseric, Prazec Goul, Rikkter, Ruse, Sheltatha Lore, Skintick, Tennes, Thyr, Venesara.


2 votes Venesara:Okaros, Osseric
10 votes Thyrllan; Skintick, Jalan, Barghast, Gait, Tennes, Kilava, Kalse, Ruse, Aranatha, Prazec Goul
1 vote Fanderay; Thyrllan
2 votes Hanas; Rikkter, Sheltatha Lore

Players not voted; Fanderay, Gamelon, Hanas, Venesara.

Thyrllan has been lynched. He was Peanutbutta and Scum

Edit: Cross out Gamelon, removed Prazec Ghoul in not voted category

This post has been edited by Gait: 27 May 2020 - 11:54 AM

[Barghast]

Was just working on a somewhat better readable version

Path-Shaper, on 13 May 2020 - 09:18 PM, said:

It is day 1. 0 hours remaining.

21 people left alive; Aranatha, Barghast, Fanderay, Gait, Gamelon, Hanas, Jalan, Kalse, Kilava, Merrid, Okaros, Okral Lom, Osseric, Prazec Goul, Rikkter, Ruse, Sheltatha Lore, Skintick, Tennes, Thyr, Venesara. 11 votes to lynch.

11 votes Okral Lom; Rikkter, Skintick, Kalse, Gait, Tennes, Fanderay, Aranatha, Ruse, Jalan, Prazec Goul, Merrid

1 vote Osseric; Hanas

1 vote Merrid; Okral Lom

1 vote Thyrllan; Barghast

Players not voted; Gamelon, Kilava, Okaros, Osseric, Sheltatha Lore, Thyr, Venesara.

Okral Lom is dead. They were Dunsparrow and town.

Path-Shaper, on 15 May 2020 - 09:13 PM, said:

It is day 2. About 0 hours remaining.

19 people left alive. Aranatha, Barghast, Fanderay, Gait, Gamelon, Hanas, Jalan, Kalse, Kilava, Okaros, Osseric, Prazec Goul, Rikkter, Ruse, Sheltatha Lore, Skintick, Tennes, Thyr, Venesara.

2 votes Venesara: Okaros, Osseric

10 votes Thyrllan; Skintick, Jalan, Barghast, Gait, Tennes, Kilava, Kalse, Ruse, Aranatha, Prazec Goul

1 vote Fanderay; Thyrllan

2 votes Hanas; Rikkter, Sheltatha Lore

Players not voted; Fanderay, Gamelon, Hanas, Prazec Goul, Venesara.

Thyrllan has been lynched. He was Peanutbutta and Scum

Pre-switch

Path-Shaper, on 19 May 2020 - 09:00 AM, said:

It is day 3. About 2 hours remaining.

17 people left alive. Aranatha, Gait, Gamelon, Hanas, Jalan, Kalse, Kilava, Okaros, Osseric, Prazec Goul, Rikkter, Ruse, Sheltatha Lore, Tennes, Venesara.

7 votes Rikkter; Jalan, Barghast Sheltatha Lore, Fanderay, Prazec Goul, Ruse, Gait, (Aranatha), [Okaros after switch]

1 vote Ruse; Tennes

2 votes Tennes; Rikkter, Aranatha(not)

1 vote Venesara; Kalse

Players not voted; Gamelon, Hanas, Kilava, Okaros, Osseric, Venesara.

Path-Shaper, on 21 May 2020 - 12:19 PM, said:

It is day 3 4. 0 minutes remaining remaining.

13 people left alive. Aranatha, Barghast, Fanderay, Gait, Hanas, Kilava, Okaros, Osseric, Prazec Goul, Ruse, Sheltatha Lore, Tennes, Venesara.

7 to lynch.

1 vote Gait; Fanderay

2 votes Tennes; Ruse, Aranatha

7 votes Prazec; Barghast, Tennes, Sheltatha Lore, Okaros, Gait, Hanas, Venesara

Players not voted; Kilava, Osseric, Prazec Goul,

Prazec Goul is lynched. She was Lady Bliss and RI.

Path-Shaper, on 25 May 2020 - 03:12 PM, said:

It is day 4 5. 0 minutes remaining.

11 people left alive. Aranatha, Barghast, Fanderay, Gait, Hanas, Kilava, Okaros, Osseric, Sheltatha Lore, Tennes, Venesara.

Day timed out without a lynch.

3 votes Tennes; Aranatha, Okaros, Gait

5 votes Osseric: Tennes, Fanderay, Sheltatha, Hanas, Barghast

Players not voted; Fanderay, Hanas, Kilava, Osseric, Venesara.

edit: removed abundant quote, corrected day numbers

edit: turns out strikethrough doesn't really work with 4, further formatting

This post has been edited by Barghast: 27 May 2020 - 12:24 PM

[Okaros]

Reading up on Gait now:

They are difficult to get a read on because they tend to swing around quite a bit. They were among the very first to say that Thyr should be looked at more closely (pro), but then, when questioned by Tennes, they back away to say they only 'think' that it 'seems' like scum 'might' be diverting away from Thyr. Then under more pressure, they go back to placing a vote on Thyr because of Thyr's flurry of posts.

But on my (third?) reread of Gait they once again ultimately come up as someone who feels more town than scum. Yes, they have scum-like behaviour - that 'let's put a pin in this' stuff late on with Tennes continues to rub me the wrong way, as well as some brief interaction with Prazec where they seem to be trying to encourage Prazec to support them more strongly in quite a mealy way. Nevertheless, I think their suspicion of and vote on Thyr was more crucial to that lynch than Tennes could admit.

If they were allied with anyone out of our group, it's not Ven (who they've raised multiple times as suspicious because Thyr didn't vote for them), it's probably not Hanas who they've also disliked multiple times, and there was also some more mild, half-hearted disagreement with Aranatha.

[Gait]

I think Kalse being on the lynch train made things hopeless for Thyr.

Before that, Scum fought the lynch with that Venesara train. They may have been building more than one train to rival the Thyr vote. I would be VERY surprised if Kalse was the only scum on the Venesara train.

[Okaros]

That last Osseric train is interesting. A lot of known non-killers on it. Only Hanas of the five is an unknown quantity.

[Gait]

Okaros, on 27 May 2020 - 12:10 PM, said:

That last Osseric train is interesting. A lot of known non-killers on it. Only Hanas of the five is an unknown quantity.

I think Hanas/Osseric votes would help information wise.

I don't like how often Hanas seems to arrive at the tail end of lynches. I don't like Osserics activity around the Thyr lynch.


Vote Osseric

[Okaros]

Osseric has not posted since the 22nd. They must be getting modkilled at the end of the day if they don't show up. So the question is do we want the CF, or do we look elsewhere knowing they're on their way out anyway?

[Okaros]

Kilava's an interesting read and probably provides the most comprehensively damning evidence for voting for Osseric. Kilava's was the first vote on Venesara, for 'post-padding,' which Kalse, myself, and Osseric then followed. Kilava points out that Osseric's vote ties up the vote counts between Thyr and Venesara. This doesn't sit right with Kilava and they jump onto Thyr as a result, making it 5-3 in favour of Thyr getting lynched (I think I pointed this out once before). Kilava points out the weakness of Osseric's vote - they'll vote Ven, but 'are happy' to also switch to Thyrllan if need be.

I'm not sure I need to read more - this already feels like quite a strong town play in light of Thyr's CF.

[Okaros]

Essentially this read-up takes me back to my initial top two suspects from the six, Hanas and Osseric. Probably followed by Aranatha/Gait, Venesara, Kilava in that order.

[Okaros]

I'm going to put in a

Vote Hanas


to give us another option. I would like to hear opinions on letting Osseric go to a modkill or whether to get the CF.

[Path-Shaper]

It is day 5. 3 hours 45 minutes remaining.

10 players left alive. Aranatha, Barghast, Fanderay, Gait, Hanas, Kilava, Okaros, Osseric, Sheltatha Lore, Venesara. 

6 votes to lynch.

3 votes Osseric; Sheltatha, Kilava, Gait
1 vote Hanas; Okaros

Players not voted; Aranatha, Barghast, Fanderay, Hanas, Osseric, Venesara

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 27 May 2020 - 01:14 PM

[Okaros]

Thyr not wanting to vote for Venesara when fellow killers Kalse and Osseric were already there would make a whole lot of sense...though it would also make sense just because Kalse on his own was on Ven already, as Kalse had done quite a bit of deflecting from Thyr by that point.

[Barghast]

It's not as if Osserc's scum CF would tell us that much

[Okaros]

One thing swaying me a little from Osseric/Hanas as the final two: If it is them, that would mean that NO killers at all were on Rikkter's final lynch train, which would be, if not implausible, then a little odd.