[Hanas]

Gait, on 27 May 2020 - 12:24 PM, said:

Okaros, on 27 May 2020 - 12:10 PM, said:

That last Osseric train is interesting. A lot of known non-killers on it. Only Hanas of the five is an unknown quantity.

I think Hanas/Osseric votes would help information wise.

I don't like how often Hanas seems to arrive at the tail end of lynches. I don't like Osserics activity around the Thyr lynch.


Vote Osseric

That'd be something to do with the 48 hour days and my wife and I alternating who gets a lay in or a daytime break.


In terms of Osseric, depends how much you want the Osseric CF and on the odd/evens rule.

If we lynch Osseric then NK takes us to 8
If we don't lynch then NK and modkill takes us to 8
If we lynch elsewhere then NK and modkill take us to 7

It's probably safe to say a NK will be on someone who has revealed.

Personally I'd rather take us down to 7 players than 8 - that one less needed for a majority gives our (ex-)roled less need to hope enough low-posters get on board with their thoughts for a future successful lynch.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Okaros, on 27 May 2020 - 01:01 PM, said:

Essentially this read-up takes me back to my initial top two suspects from the six, Hanas and Osseric. Probably followed by Aranatha/Gait, Venesara, Kilava in that order.

I would put Kilava up at the top with Hanas and Osseric... I cant tell why tho...just gut

[Sheltatha Lore]

Okaros, on 27 May 2020 - 01:26 PM, said:

One thing swaying me a little from Osseric/Hanas as the final two: If it is them, that would mean that NO killers at all were on Rikkter's final lynch train, which would be, if not implausible, then a little odd.

Well scum tend to avoid being on Lynch trains as much as possible... and at the time there was only 3 scum and quite allot of town around to do the deed for them.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Hanas, on 27 May 2020 - 01:35 PM, said:

Gait, on 27 May 2020 - 12:24 PM, said:

Okaros, on 27 May 2020 - 12:10 PM, said:

That last Osseric train is interesting. A lot of known non-killers on it. Only Hanas of the five is an unknown quantity.

I think Hanas/Osseric votes would help information wise.

I don't like how often Hanas seems to arrive at the tail end of lynches. I don't like Osserics activity around the Thyr lynch.


Vote Osseric

That'd be something to do with the 48 hour days and my wife and I alternating who gets a lay in or a daytime break.


In terms of Osseric, depends how much you want the Osseric CF and on the odd/evens rule.

If we lynch Osseric then NK takes us to 8
If we don't lynch then NK and modkill takes us to 8
If we lynch elsewhere then NK and modkill take us to 7

It's probably safe to say a NK will be on someone who has revealed.

Personally I'd rather take us down to 7 players than 8 - that one less needed for a majority gives our (ex-)roled less need to hope enough low-posters get on board with their thoughts for a future successful lynch.

this makes sense...ive been dreading the odd/even rule and end game.

[Sheltatha Lore]

with that said...


REMOTE VOTE

[Sheltatha Lore]

assuming Osseric gets mod killed.

we probably should be going for one of the other low poster scum potentials.

Kilava, Anaratha, Hanas, Gait.


who to pick

[Fanderay]

D2, Kalse had said that they would prefer a lynch on Hanas over a Thyrllan lynch. I'd prefer a lynch on Aranatha, Gait, or Kilava before we go after them.

[Kilava]

I'm here

[Okaros]

Fanderay, on 27 May 2020 - 03:06 PM, said:

D2, Kalse had said that they would prefer a lynch on Hanas over a Thyrllan lynch. I'd prefer a lynch on Aranatha, Gait, or Kilava before we go after them.

This is true and just about the only pro thing that Hanas has on their side to my mind (that is, nothing in their own posts makes me strongly think 'town'). However, I would argue that despite saying that, Kalse never veered from putting their own vote on Venesara and also pushing for Ven's lynch as an alternative to Thyr alongside Hanas. Hanas had 2 votes on the day of Thyr's lynch while Thyr and Ven had 4 each - it would be pretty easy to include Hanas in the conversation without risking the lynch simply swinging over to them instead of Thyr.

[Okaros]

If I had to choose another over Osseric or Hanas, it would be Aranatha or Gait...probably Aranatha.

[Kilava]

Okaros, on 27 May 2020 - 12:58 PM, said:

Kilava's an interesting read and probably provides the most comprehensively damning evidence for voting for Osseric. Kilava's was the first vote on Venesara, for 'post-padding,' which Kalse, myself, and Osseric then followed. Kilava points out that Osseric's vote ties up the vote counts between Thyr and Venesara. This doesn't sit right with Kilava and they jump onto Thyr as a result, making it 5-3 in favour of Thyr getting lynched (I think I pointed this out once before). Kilava points out the weakness of Osseric's vote - they'll vote Ven, but 'are happy' to also switch to Thyrllan if need be.

I'm not sure I need to read more - this already feels like quite a strong town play in light of Thyr's CF.

hmmm normally this wouldn't be worth commenting on except you aren't telling the whole truth (the best lies, right?) - did you forget about Tennes? why is the roled finder absent from this story? After Osseric ties up the votes it sits at 4-4 for awhile until...Tennes breaks this tie, to 4-5 (ven vs. thyr).

if you read what I said at all, my vote was on ven already and so if I switch to thyr, that is a 2 point swing, and I wasn't ready to push that far ahead at 4-4. tennes votes to 4-5. this plus osseric was enough for me to switch, putting count at 3-6 -- and kalse followed me almost immediately to seal the deal for Thyr lynch at 3-7. i don't care who you want to blame for the swing, but do you think scum would do this? wait for OTHER SCUM to throw down some logic, use that logic to agree with said SCUM, and then follow votes onto a SCUM train? no fucking way. call his "reasoning" what you want, but kalse voted ven right after me as well.

pretty convenient okaros, tennes has been one of the most visible players all game.

remove vote

[Path-Shaper]

It is day 5. 1 hours 35 minutes remaining.

10 players left alive. Aranatha, Barghast, Fanderay, Gait, Hanas, Kilava, Okaros, Osseric, Sheltatha Lore, Venesara. 

6 votes to lynch.

1 votes Osseric; Gait
1 vote Hanas; Okaros

Players not voted; Aranatha, Barghast, Fanderay, Hanas, Osseric, Sheltatha, Venesara

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 27 May 2020 - 03:27 PM

[Okaros]

Kilava, on 27 May 2020 - 03:21 PM, said:

Okaros, on 27 May 2020 - 12:58 PM, said:

Kilava's an interesting read and probably provides the most comprehensively damning evidence for voting for Osseric. Kilava's was the first vote on Venesara, for 'post-padding,' which Kalse, myself, and Osseric then followed. Kilava points out that Osseric's vote ties up the vote counts between Thyr and Venesara. This doesn't sit right with Kilava and they jump onto Thyr as a result, making it 5-3 in favour of Thyr getting lynched (I think I pointed this out once before). Kilava points out the weakness of Osseric's vote - they'll vote Ven, but 'are happy' to also switch to Thyrllan if need be.

I'm not sure I need to read more - this already feels like quite a strong town play in light of Thyr's CF.

hmmm normally this wouldn't be worth commenting on except you aren't telling the whole truth (the best lies, right?) - did you forget about Tennes? why is the roled finder absent from this story? After Osseric ties up the votes it sits at 4-4 for awhile until...Tennes breaks this tie, to 4-5 (ven vs. thyr).

if you read what I said at all, my vote was on ven already and so if I switch to thyr, that is a 2 point swing, and I wasn't ready to push that far ahead at 4-4. tennes votes to 4-5. this plus osseric was enough for me to switch, putting count at 3-6 -- and kalse followed me almost immediately to seal the deal for Thyr lynch at 3-7. i don't care who you want to blame for the swing, but do you think scum would do this? wait for OTHER SCUM to throw down some logic, use that logic to agree with said SCUM, and then follow votes onto a SCUM train? no fucking way. call his "reasoning" what you want, but kalse voted ven right after me as well.

pretty convenient okaros, tennes has been one of the most visible players all game.

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Uh, what? Are you reading properly?

I literally say you are town to my mind because of your actions, and you think I'm doing...what? Casting suspicion on you??

Yeah, I missed out Tennes' vote (in numbers, not Tennes himself, I was thinking Tennes was the fourth, not fifth vote on Thyr), so it was 5-4 when you changed vote to make it 6-3...which actually makes your vote less strong as a tipping point, not more (that is, Tennes had already begun to tip it to Thyr?) So actually, you're weakening my own assertion on you being town

But ultimately, you seem to be angry at me...because I agreed with you?

[Kilava]

Sheltatha Lore, on 27 May 2020 - 02:56 PM, said:

assuming Osseric gets mod killed.

we probably should be going for one of the other low poster scum potentials.

Kilava, Anaratha, Hanas, Gait.


who to pick

um..what qualifies as a low poster to you? this is like 3 weeks in and I'm sitting here talking to you at timeout. are you just counting posts?

because you are bad at it...gait and aranatha are - along with you - in the top 4 posters by numbers this game... how does that make them low posters? did you mean they haven't been around?

it sounds very much like you do not care who gets lynched instead of suspecting low posters... by the way, feel free to subract half your posts from the total count, your dick swinging contest with ara isn't worth the time it took me to type this

Who posted in: Mafia 150 - Lockdown Hell
Member name	Posts
Sheltatha Lore 	303
Barghast 	142
Aranatha 	122
Gait 	110
Okaros 	103
Tennes 	97
Path-Shaper 	86
Kalse 	57
Hanas 	53
Kilava 	49
Skintick 	39
Prazec Goul 	37
Fanderay 	31
Thyrllan 	28
Rikkter 	28
Venesara 	25
Osseric 	21
Jalan 	13
Ruse 	12
Merrid 	9
Okral Lom 	5
Gamelon 	1
EmperorMagus 	1

[Kilava]

Okaros, on 27 May 2020 - 03:27 PM, said:

Kilava, on 27 May 2020 - 03:21 PM, said:

Okaros, on 27 May 2020 - 12:58 PM, said:

Kilava's an interesting read and probably provides the most comprehensively damning evidence for voting for Osseric. Kilava's was the first vote on Venesara, for 'post-padding,' which Kalse, myself, and Osseric then followed. Kilava points out that Osseric's vote ties up the vote counts between Thyr and Venesara. This doesn't sit right with Kilava and they jump onto Thyr as a result, making it 5-3 in favour of Thyr getting lynched (I think I pointed this out once before). Kilava points out the weakness of Osseric's vote - they'll vote Ven, but 'are happy' to also switch to Thyrllan if need be.

I'm not sure I need to read more - this already feels like quite a strong town play in light of Thyr's CF.

hmmm normally this wouldn't be worth commenting on except you aren't telling the whole truth (the best lies, right?) - did you forget about Tennes? why is the roled finder absent from this story? After Osseric ties up the votes it sits at 4-4 for awhile until...Tennes breaks this tie, to 4-5 (ven vs. thyr).

if you read what I said at all, my vote was on ven already and so if I switch to thyr, that is a 2 point swing, and I wasn't ready to push that far ahead at 4-4. tennes votes to 4-5. this plus osseric was enough for me to switch, putting count at 3-6 -- and kalse followed me almost immediately to seal the deal for Thyr lynch at 3-7. i don't care who you want to blame for the swing, but do you think scum would do this? wait for OTHER SCUM to throw down some logic, use that logic to agree with said SCUM, and then follow votes onto a SCUM train? no fucking way. call his "reasoning" what you want, but kalse voted ven right after me as well.

pretty convenient okaros, tennes has been one of the most visible players all game.

remove vote

Uh, what? Are you reading properly?

I literally say you are town to my mind because of your actions, and you think I'm doing...what? Casting suspicion on you??

Yeah, I missed out Tennes' vote (in numbers, not Tennes himself, I was thinking Tennes was the fourth, not fifth vote on Thyr), so it was 5-4 when you changed vote to make it 6-3...which actually makes your vote less strong as a tipping point, not more (that is, Tennes had already begun to tip it to Thyr?) So actually, you're weakening my own assertion on you being town

But ultimately, you seem to be angry at me...because I agreed with you?

er...relax? how is pointing out what you missed casting suspicion on you?

how is it possible for everyone to think that I am angry at them...? do I need to put smileys or something? is my true opinion just too harsh? I really don't get why everyone is so butthurt because I talked to them...

anyway... yes, everything you said about tennes in that paragraph I agree with, because I stated all of it on thread in detail before i ever switched my vote to Thyr.

[Kilava]

OK I reread what I said when I quoted you earlier and... yeah I guess it sounds angry. this is what I meant, with a royal You, you know, the editorial?

in particular the middle paragraph about kalse's reasoning as a scum, I really wasn't directing that at you (okaros), because it didn't have anything to do with what you said really, but for all the attention that the thyr train got, I find it interesting/helpful to see how the other scum we know voted, and that's definitely not the focus.

someone else already said it recently i think, but that's a lot of scum on that train if so. it would take ballsy scum for 2 of them to use the same logic, agree openly on thread, and jump on a train on scum #3. I find this hard to see right now

[Okaros]

Alright, we have less than an hour left - what's the consensus going to be?

[Path-Shaper]

It is day 5. 45 minutes remaining.

10 players left alive. Aranatha, Barghast, Fanderay, Gait, Hanas, Kilava, Okaros, Osseric, Sheltatha Lore, Venesara. 

6 votes to lynch.

1 votes Osseric; Gait
1 vote Hanas; Okaros

Players not voted; Aranatha, Barghast, Fanderay, Hanas, Osseric, Sheltatha, Venesara

[Sheltatha Lore]

Kilava, on 27 May 2020 - 03:31 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 27 May 2020 - 02:56 PM, said:

assuming Osseric gets mod killed.

we probably should be going for one of the other low poster scum potentials.

Kilava, Anaratha, Hanas, Gait.


who to pick

um..what qualifies as a low poster to you? this is like 3 weeks in and I'm sitting here talking to you at timeout. are you just counting posts?

because you are bad at it...gait and aranatha are - along with you - in the top 4 posters by numbers this game... how does that make them low posters? did you mean they haven't been around?

it sounds very much like you do not care who gets lynched instead of suspecting low posters... by the way, feel free to subract half your posts from the total count, your dick swinging contest with ara isn't worth the time it took me to type this

Who posted in: Mafia 150 - Lockdown Hell
Member name	Posts
Sheltatha Lore 	303
Barghast 	142
Aranatha 	122
Gait 	110
Okaros 	103
Tennes 	97
Path-Shaper 	86
Kalse 	57
Hanas 	53
Kilava 	49
Skintick 	39
Prazec Goul 	37
Fanderay 	31
Thyrllan 	28
Rikkter 	28
Venesara 	25
Osseric 	21
Jalan 	13
Ruse 	12
Merrid 	9
Okral Lom 	5
Gamelon 	1
EmperorMagus 	1

Not that I have to explain...

but people that have not contributed much in the last while are also included in as "low posters" yes.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Vote Kilava






You are way too jumpy