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COVID-19 (aka Coronavirus, aka 2019-nCoV)

#201 User is offline   Azath Vitr (D'ivers 

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Posted 09 March 2020 - 09:14 PM

'Rep. Matt Gaetz To Self-Quarantine After Coronavirus Exposure At CPAC

Gaetz is one of multiple Republican lawmakers who have to enter a 14-day self-quarantine amid the COVID-19 outbreak.'

https://www.huffpost...rrZldvMxJxiWRK4

Hope he takes his own advice about drinking to kill the virus (it could work, obviously, if he drinks enough to die)....

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Posted 09 March 2020 - 11:54 PM

I'm imagining what will happen if Trump gets a severe case of the coronavirus and has to be intubated... will he keep tweeting?

'Trump walked out of the room, leaving Vice President Mike Pence and health officials to answer questions from reporters. “Mr. President, have you been tested, sir?” multiple reporters shouted at Trump as he left the press room.

Pence [said,] “I have not been tested for the coronavirus.” Asked again if Trump has been tested, he replied, “I honestly don’t know the answer to the question, but we’ll refer that question and we will get you an answer from the White House physician very quickly.”

Later in the press conference he was also unable to answer why he and Trump would not have been tested despite interacting with multiple lawmakers who had direct contact with an infected patient at CPAC less than two weeks ago and are now in self-quarantine.'

https://www.thedaily...avirus?ref=home
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Posted 10 March 2020 - 02:17 AM

'Trump, who is trying to appear like a strong boy to the public, is freaking out privately about the coronavirus. He’s apparently afraid that the media will try to Trojan Horse him and deliberately get him infected:

"Last week Trump told aides he’s afraid journalists will try to purposefully contract coronavirus to give it to him on Air Force One, a person close to the administration told me. The source also said Trump has asked the Secret Service to set up a screening program and bar anyone who has a cough from the White House grounds. 'He’s definitely melting down over this,' the source said."

'Gaetz learned that he had been in contact with the attendee after Air Force One lifted off, and “then essentially quarantined himself, sitting in a section of the plane alone.”'

https://www.vice.com...pac-coronavirus
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Posted 10 March 2020 - 08:30 AM

I am disappointed that nobody has made historical reference to Nero purportedly playing his fiddle while Rome burnt yet. We need a better class of political hacks.
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Posted 10 March 2020 - 09:07 AM

Not only did someone make that meme, it was tweeted by the shire house and retweeted by trump. They seem to have not understood it it’s meaning
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Posted 10 March 2020 - 09:31 AM

View PostKing Lear, on 09 March 2020 - 05:08 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 09 March 2020 - 04:55 PM, said:

View PostKing Lear, on 09 March 2020 - 04:46 PM, said:

Port Authority chief for New York and New Jersey, Rick Cotton, has tested positive, and his senior team will go undergoing tests as well.


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Posted 10 March 2020 - 09:43 AM

View PostCause, on 10 March 2020 - 09:07 AM, said:

Not only did someone make that meme, it was tweeted by the shire house and retweeted by trump. They seem to have not understood it it’s meaning


Well, Trump did cancel an oversees visit to stay home and monitor the last hurricane season... from his golf resort.
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Posted 10 March 2020 - 05:22 PM

Governor of Colorado has declared a State of Emergency.

Not as alarming as it sounds, but not insignificant either. It's a smart declaration and procedural step taken to get access to broader resources that may be slow in coming due to governmental red tape.
The state of Colorado has experience with the 'state of emergency' declaration and what its invocation means (i.e. access to resources) due to the fires in the west we went through over last decade.

15 confirmed COVID-19 cases in Colorado.
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Posted 10 March 2020 - 05:45 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 10 March 2020 - 09:31 AM, said:

View PostKing Lear, on 09 March 2020 - 05:08 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 09 March 2020 - 04:55 PM, said:

View PostKing Lear, on 09 March 2020 - 04:46 PM, said:

Port Authority chief for New York and New Jersey, Rick Cotton, has tested positive, and his senior team will go undergoing tests as well.


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Posted 10 March 2020 - 06:01 PM

It sounds like the issue in Italy now (and possibly will be the issue elsewhere) is that a lot of the infected require ventilators to help them breathe through this. An item that is ICU-specific, and thus in rather short supply (I mean how often did anyone think they'd need ventilators/respirators for more than a few patients at a time?)...and it SOUNDS like in Northern Italy at least, the infected is growing too exponentially to be handled by the machines they have in that region, so they are beginning to prioritize the young...this is reportedly why the spike in deaths is happening on the 24hr window now. Older people, unable to cope, but no access to the machines that will help them breathe.

For reference/model of how this would look in the US. I THINK I read there are like 100k of these machines for the whole country, and no access to more. If the infection toll rises steeply enough in the wake of Trump's idiocy...that sounds like a tempest in a teapot for the elderly/immunocompromised...
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Posted 10 March 2020 - 06:04 PM

'White House press secretary screams at reporters to get out as Trump refuses to answer virus questions'

https://www.rawstory...lNMyWNsZcGgM9Mc

'Italy is a preview of what we may see in the U.S. very soon.

In a recent statement, the American Hospital Association projects strain on U.S. hospitals and is requesting congressional funding for new hospital construction and increased housing for patients. Doing the math, the U.S. currently has approximately 100,000 ICU beds with most hospitals already functioning at full or near-full capacity. According the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, 200,000 to as many as 2.9 million patients could present to U.S. hospitals with coronavirus. It's time we increase the capacity of our medical centers before the infection ramps up.

Italy has now quarantined approximately 60 million people, and closed all nightclubs, gyms, and sporting events. I respect NIAID Director Anthony Fauci and admired his leadership as a clinical voice of reason amidst of our AIDS, SARS, and Ebola epidemics, but I'm concerned he has not yet introduced contingency plans for any of these major preventive measures. Instead, he is re-iterating a popular view that there is a lot we don't know and that anything is possible. His only strong warning has been directed at to those considering cruise ship travel. Based on the current trajectory of the pandemic, all U.S. schools are at risk and may need to be closed, public gatherings like NCAA tournament games may need to be postponed, businesses should have their employees work from home whenever possible, and hospitals should staff up. I don't like it, but that's what the data are telling us to do.'

https://www.medpaget...e4s48yN8f54b0Iw

'A growing number of U.S. colleges have canceled in-person classes because of the coronavirus. The closures began in Washington state, and now include Harvard University, Columbia University, Princeton University, Rice University, Stanford University, Hofstra University, University of California, Berkeley, and the University of Washington, among others.'

https://www.npr.org/...-to-coronavirus

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Posted 10 March 2020 - 06:53 PM

If you follow the math for the virus/outbreak model in the States, with no healthcare for all, not enough places to handle things even then, not enough people even getting tested because of cost, and Trump's attempt to GASLIGHT a goddamned global virus and downplay its severity (meaning no tamping down of gatherings)...

The US might be looking at COVID-19 fatalities in the millions when all is said and done. If Italy is scary (WITH universal healthcare), I can't image the model in one of the only global countries WITHOUT universal healthcare...my gods...it could be devastating.

EDIT: It's a good thing the organizers of a lot of gatherings are cancelling/shutting down even while the WH tries to downplay it....at least that should mitigate needlessly congregating and potentially spreading it.

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Posted 10 March 2020 - 06:57 PM

I can see it now...

It's not as bad as expected.... TRUMP: SEE? SEE???? I'M THE GREATEST DOCTOR EVER!!!!!!

It's worse... TRUMP: IT'S THE MEDIA'S FAULT!!!!
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Posted 10 March 2020 - 07:08 PM

Spring Break Cancun, bitches! Body shots at Seņor Frog's ever-ree day! Wait, what?
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Posted 10 March 2020 - 07:26 PM

Philadelphia's Saint Patrick's Day parade is still on (so far).

'When the influenza epidemic of 1918 infected a quarter of the U.S. population, killing tens of millions of people, seemingly small choices made the difference between life and death.

As the disease was spreading, Wilmer Krusen, Philadelphia's health commissioner, allowed a huge parade to take place on September 28th; some 200,000 people marched. In the following days and weeks, the bodies piled up in the city's morgues. By the end of the season, 12,000 residents had died."

In St. Louis, a public health commissioner named Max Starkloff decided to shut the city down. Ignoring the objections of influential businessmen, he closed the city's schools, bars, cinemas, and sporting events. Thanks to his bold and unpopular actions, the per capita fatality rate in St. Louis was half that of Philadelphia. (In total roughly 1,700 people died from influenza in St Louis.)

In the coming days, thousands of people across the country will face the choice between becoming a Wilmer Krusen or a Max Starkloff.'

https://www.theatlan...K322hTFMA19MyWo

'In Philadelphia, newspaper editors wary of disloyalty accusations avoided publishing doctors' warnings about the public health risks of an upcoming parade. Within 48 hours of the event, thousands in the city fell sick with Spanish flu, but public officials continued to insist it was business as usual.
"Bodies remained uncollected in homes for days," researchers at the National Academy of Sciences write, "until eventually open trucks and even horse-drawn carts were sent down city streets and people were told to bring out the dead."'

https://www.thedaily...-his-presidency

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Posted 10 March 2020 - 07:33 PM

"Ignoring the objections of influential businessmen"

How unamerican of Starkloff...
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Posted 10 March 2020 - 08:23 PM

I think its early for the USA to have to worry about quarantines. For now they can focus on trying to quarantine the isolated pockets of infection and the CDC and the police still have enough manpower to try and trace the infection pathways and quarantine those who need it.

I'm not a germaphobe surprisingly but I am a dirt-phobe. So ever since coming to NYC I have been washing my hands more than usual because my perception of the subway and the city in general is that its filthy. It might pay off. That said Im also somewhat quarantined just by having a lack of things to do, but in NYC if you need to go somewhere you have to take the subway and that thing will be an infection super highway.
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Posted 11 March 2020 - 12:00 AM

Been seeing a lot of discussion about handshakes. Is it time for the handshake to go away? In an interview a doctor said the origin of the handshake comes from the middle ages and was done to indicate that your sword arm was encumbered. Is that true?

About handshakes though. I've never been too concerned about catching something when shaking hands, but I am bothered by limp, dead fish handshakes, it's high on my list of social faux pas. Learn how to properly shake hands people! Firm, direct, honorable and respectful.
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Posted 11 March 2020 - 12:27 AM

View PostMalankazooie, on 11 March 2020 - 12:00 AM, said:

Been seeing a lot of discussion about handshakes. Is it time for the handshake to go away? In an interview a doctor said the origin of the handshake comes from the middle ages and was done to indicate that your sword arm was encumbered. Is that true?

About handshakes though. I've never been too concerned about catching something when shaking hands, but I am bothered by limp, dead fish handshakes, it's high on my list of social faux pas. Learn how to properly shake hands people! Firm, direct, honorable and respectful.


'It is often when you are told not to do something, that you start to wonder why you do it anyway. And – as we move to elbow nudges – so it is with the handshake. Where did the custom begin?

The standard answer being bandied around (thanks to Wiki I suspect) is that it goes back to ancient Greece. But does it?

It is true that there are plenty of ancient Greek sculptures (funerary mainly) and pottery paintings that show two people clasping each other's right hand. And it is much the same in Rome [...] There is no sign, though, that this was a greeting in our sense of the word. It looks more like a symbol of closeness, affection or trust. [...]

In ancient (and particularly Homeric) Greece, if you were meeting someone of higher status to beg a favour, then you would very likely have got to the ground and clasped them around the knees. There was probably plenty of bowing, scraping and self-prostration in ancient Rome too (that kind of abasement was something of which "good" emperors supposedly disapproved – which very likely means that it happened a lot!). But what would more ordinary members of the elite do if they met someone they regarded as an equal? The fact is that they would probably have kissed, on the lips, or lips to eyelids. And not just man to man. The Greek antiquarian Plutarch (who found quite a lot of what the Romans did rather puzzling) asked in his Roman Questions "Why do Roman women kiss their male relatives on the lips?" His favoured answer (probably untrue, but a giveaway of social attitudes to women) was so that the men could tell if the ladies had been at the bottle.'

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(These people are all dead now. Though if it's funerary art, maybe they were already dead?...)

https://www.the-tls....-the-handshake/

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'One of the earliest depictions of a handshake is found in a ninth century B.C. relief, which shows the Assyrian King Shalmaneser III pressing the flesh with a Babylonian ruler to seal an alliance. The epic poet Homer described handshakes several times in his "Iliad" and "Odyssey," most often in relation to pledges and displays of trust. The gesture was also a recurring motif in the fourth and fifth century B.C. Greek funerary art. Gravestones would often depict the deceased person shaking hands with a member of their family, signifying either a final farewell or the eternal bond between the living and the dead. In ancient Rome, meanwhile, the handshake was often used as a symbol of friendship and loyalty. Pairs of clasped hands even appeared on Roman coins.

While the handshake had several meanings in the ancient world, its use as an everyday greeting is a more recent phenomenon. Some historians believe it was popularized by the 17th century Quakers, who viewed a simple handclasp as a more egalitarian alternative to bowing or tipping a hat. The greeting later became commonplace, and by the 1800s, etiquette manuals often included guidelines for the proper handshaking technique'

https://www.history....f-the-handshake

A rumor is going around the African-American community that black people can't get the novel coronavirus:

'I was casually chatting with a friend Monday when the subject of the coronavirus came up and he said, "I don't think black folks get it."

I was, like, "What?!"

Needless to say, my jaw was hanging as he went on to explain how he had heard that it had something to do with the melanin in darker skin tones. Now, normally, I would have just politely disabused him of that fallacy and kept it moving, as they say.

But earlier, I had been poking around online and stumbled across a few comments on social media in which other African Americans appeared equally as skeptical about the respiratory disease spreading around the globe and its possible impact on them.

I also asked a random sampling of some of my most vocal Facebook friends about the coronavirus and most of them had heard the same thing.

[...] Caudle, also an associate professor at Rowan University[... :] "I literally was in the beauty shop just yesterday. I'm not even kidding and I overheard this woman talking to another woman and she said something like: 'Did you hear? I heard black people can't get coronavirus,' " Caudle says on the video. "She was literally having a conversation with another woman about this.

"Guys, I'm black. Many of you might be black. There is no evidence to say that black people cannot get coronavirus. This is a myth. Anyone can get coronavirus," she adds.'

https://www.inquirer...g-20200310.html

Apparently some people genuinely believe that beer will kill the virus:

'He'd just broken up with a girlfriend and had gone out for a few beers, alone. He said the beer would protect him from the virus.'

https://slate.com/hu...yft-advice.html

'CDC Director Condemns Trump's "China Virus" Tweet
"ABSOLUTELY WRONG"
The president on Tuesday reposted a tweet that referred to the novel coronavirus as the "China Virus," a term with racist and xenophobic meaning.

[...] The president[...] reposted a tweet from conservative commentator Charlie Kirk on Tuesday referring to the disease as the "China Virus" and calling for the U.S.-Mexico border wall to be constructed. Trump added, "Going up fast. We need the Wall more than ever!"'

https://www.thedaily...ina-virus-tweet

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Posted 11 March 2020 - 09:22 AM

https://www.nytimes....oronavirus.html

What the actual fuck!?

This is a thing? Is this real? This can't be real, can it?
Screw you all, and have a nice day!

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