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2020 Malazan Re-read: Deadhouse Gates Starts february 1st

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Posted 27 August 2022 - 01:42 AM

View PostContrarianMalazanReader, on 26 August 2022 - 06:13 PM, said:

As posted earlier, I find myself agreeing with what Ganoes said in MoI, that it would have been far more merciful for Tavore to just execute Felisin and spare her the nasty ordeal.


Well sure, hindsight is 20/20. It's not like Tavore had a crystal ball that told her exactly what was going to happen in the future.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 27 August 2022 - 02:23 AM

View PostD, on 27 August 2022 - 01:42 AM, said:

View PostContrarianMalazanReader, on 26 August 2022 - 06:13 PM, said:

As posted earlier, I find myself agreeing with what Ganoes said in MoI, that it would have been far more merciful for Tavore to just execute Felisin and spare her the nasty ordeal.


Well sure, hindsight is 20/20. It's not like Tavore had a crystal ball that told her exactly what was going to happen in the future.

Tavore Paran, genius military strategist capable of implausibly intricate planning and most annoyingly seems to know about everything, couldn't anticipate her little sister, who's essentially Cher Horowitz, would be unable to handle a place as harsh as the Otataral Mines? Sorry, but I don't buy that.

Tavore herself states in GotM that Felisin is too soft for any world.

Maybe it's because I went through similar stuff, though thankfully nowhere near as bad, but Felisin is the only character whose story genuinely hit me hard. I didn't care about Whiskeyjack being betrayed by Kallor, the Chain of Dogs, Beak, Hetan's hobbling or any other stories readers found heartbreaking, only felt genuinely bad for Felisin.
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Posted 27 August 2022 - 02:50 PM

So the benevolence you would extend to the one character you empathized with would be to unilaterally euthanize her like an injured racehorse? Remind me never to get on your good side!
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Posted 27 August 2022 - 04:33 PM

View PostRenewed For 2 More Seasons, on 27 August 2022 - 02:50 PM, said:

So the benevolence you would extend to the one character you empathized with would be to unilaterally euthanize her like an injured racehorse? Remind me never to get on your good side!

Since you're touching on the subject, let me tell you that we're all going to die anyway, and yes, I firmly believe in euthanasia, for death is IMO preferable to a life of agony and suffering.
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Posted 28 August 2022 - 03:42 AM

View PostContrarianMalazanReader, on 27 August 2022 - 02:23 AM, said:

View PostD, on 27 August 2022 - 01:42 AM, said:

View PostContrarianMalazanReader, on 26 August 2022 - 06:13 PM, said:

As posted earlier, I find myself agreeing with what Ganoes said in MoI, that it would have been far more merciful for Tavore to just execute Felisin and spare her the nasty ordeal.


Well sure, hindsight is 20/20. It's not like Tavore had a crystal ball that told her exactly what was going to happen in the future.

Tavore Paran, genius military strategist capable of implausibly intricate planning and most annoyingly seems to know about everything, couldn't anticipate her little sister, who's essentially Cher Horowitz, would be unable to handle a place as harsh as the Otataral Mines? Sorry, but I don't buy that.

Tavore herself states in GotM that Felisin is too soft for any world.

Maybe it's because I went through similar stuff, though thankfully nowhere near as bad, but Felisin is the only character whose story genuinely hit me hard. I didn't care about Whiskeyjack being betrayed by Kallor, the Chain of Dogs, Beak, Hetan's hobbling or any other stories readers found heartbreaking, only felt genuinely bad for Felisin.


Yes, the character who has no friends and spends the entire series having a hard time relating to her soldiers and acquaintances on a personal level, not even her Fists or confidants like Fiddler... the character who every single conversation she has in the books is awkward as hell... the character who as a little girl spent her days hiding in the library reading military treatises instead of socializing with other kids, and then grew up to be the Empress' political assassin and secretly a weirdo shadow cultist... it turns out *that* character is incredibly socially awkward and isn't as good a judge of people than she is of strategy and military logistics. What a shock!

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 28 August 2022 - 03:58 AM

View PostD, on 28 August 2022 - 03:42 AM, said:

View PostContrarianMalazanReader, on 27 August 2022 - 02:23 AM, said:

View PostD, on 27 August 2022 - 01:42 AM, said:

View PostContrarianMalazanReader, on 26 August 2022 - 06:13 PM, said:

As posted earlier, I find myself agreeing with what Ganoes said in MoI, that it would have been far more merciful for Tavore to just execute Felisin and spare her the nasty ordeal.


Well sure, hindsight is 20/20. It's not like Tavore had a crystal ball that told her exactly what was going to happen in the future.

Tavore Paran, genius military strategist capable of implausibly intricate planning and most annoyingly seems to know about everything, couldn't anticipate her little sister, who's essentially Cher Horowitz, would be unable to handle a place as harsh as the Otataral Mines? Sorry, but I don't buy that.

Tavore herself states in GotM that Felisin is too soft for any world.

Maybe it's because I went through similar stuff, though thankfully nowhere near as bad, but Felisin is the only character whose story genuinely hit me hard. I didn't care about Whiskeyjack being betrayed by Kallor, the Chain of Dogs, Beak, Hetan's hobbling or any other stories readers found heartbreaking, only felt genuinely bad for Felisin.


Yes, the character who has no friends and spends the entire series having a hard time relating to her soldiers and acquaintances on a personal level, not even her Fists or confidants like Fiddler... the character who every single conversation she has in the books is awkward as hell... the character who as a little girl spent her days hiding in the library reading military treatises instead of socializing with other kids, and then grew up to be the Empress' political assassin and secretly a weirdo shadow cultist... it turns out *that* character is incredibly socially awkward and isn't as good a judge of people than she is of strategy and military logistics. What a shock!

Which begs the question. How the hell did Tavore find herself a girlfriend? Considering how emotionally closed off and socially awkward she is, her having a girlfriend baffles me.
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Posted 28 August 2022 - 05:31 AM

View PostContrarianMalazanReader, on 28 August 2022 - 03:58 AM, said:

Which begs the question. How the hell did Tavore find herself a girlfriend? Considering how emotionally closed off and socially awkward she is, her having a girlfriend baffles me.

Isn't Zuckerberg married?
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Posted 28 August 2022 - 07:39 AM

I'm pretty sure Zuckerberg being socially awkward is just an act.
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Posted 28 August 2022 - 08:46 AM

Then I must commend his focus on maintaining the act for his entire life.

The kind of focus required to become a multibillionaire I guess.

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