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#1361 User is offline   Itw誑 Nom 

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Posted 15 November 2019 - 09:17 PM

View PostItw誑 Nom, on 15 November 2019 - 09:15 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 15 November 2019 - 09:11 PM, said:

Toaster, I think you should put your votes on Sakulag for Core Mining so that those Nekro on your doorstep don't gain a bit more tech.


And give it to the race that is the runner up in points instead :p


While me and D'rek are still sitting at 1VP
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#1362 User is offline   Itw誑 Nom 

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Posted 15 November 2019 - 09:18 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 15 November 2019 - 09:16 PM, said:

View PostItw誑 Nom, on 15 November 2019 - 09:15 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 15 November 2019 - 09:11 PM, said:

Toaster, I think you should put your votes on Sakulag for Core Mining so that those Nekro on your doorstep don't gain a bit more tech.


And give it to the race that is the runner up in points instead :p


You got to think about the problem in front of you before you can solve the problem ahead of you :p


Well the Nekro have already agreed to leave 0 turn with their soon to be found prescience
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#1363 User is offline   Khellendros 

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Posted 15 November 2019 - 09:20 PM

View PostItwæs Nom, on 15 November 2019 - 09:17 PM, said:

View PostItwæs Nom, on 15 November 2019 - 09:15 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 15 November 2019 - 09:11 PM, said:

Toaster, I think you should put your votes on Sakulag for Core Mining so that those Nekro on your doorstep don't gain a bit more tech.


And give it to the race that is the runner up in points instead :p


While me and D'rek are still sitting at 1VP


Uh, you got to think about the big picture, long term? What if this is the catalyst that spurs you and D'rek to victory? It probably is!

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Posted 15 November 2019 - 09:20 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 15 November 2019 - 08:46 PM, said:

View PostItw誑 Nom, on 15 November 2019 - 08:38 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 15 November 2019 - 10:24 AM, said:

View PostD, on 15 November 2019 - 02:07 AM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 14 November 2019 - 11:48 PM, said:

I'm willing to sell my votes on this agenda, make me an offer. I have 16 available, and would require payment for casting the votes not winning khell :p

How many votes does nom have tied up for this, 6 from khell, 3 from morgoth and some from tatts, anyone else? Either way I think my votes could get someone the agenda nom isn't interested in.


I'll give you Antivirus to put 'em all on Daemon.


If I don't get a better offer seems reasonable


Assuming this goes through, I'm calling in the all votes from Tatts and 6 from Khell

Morgoth doesn't owe me any afaik

on Daemon on Core Mining


Wait...you want to elect the same planet? Then why do you need mine and Tatts' votes? Surely with yours and IH's you've basically already won? The more votes you call in the bigger plate of tech the Nekro get if Daemon wins.


Seems unlikely I'd copy a tech that you or Tatts has that Nom/IH don't already have, anyway.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 15 November 2019 - 09:21 PM

View PostItw誑 Nom, on 15 November 2019 - 09:18 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 15 November 2019 - 09:16 PM, said:

View PostItw誑 Nom, on 15 November 2019 - 09:15 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 15 November 2019 - 09:11 PM, said:

Toaster, I think you should put your votes on Sakulag for Core Mining so that those Nekro on your doorstep don't gain a bit more tech.


And give it to the race that is the runner up in points instead :p


You got to think about the problem in front of you before you can solve the problem ahead of you :p


Well the Nekro have already agreed to leave 0 turn with their soon to be found prescience


Toaster did say that, but now he's shopping prescience out for votes, apparently

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 15 November 2019 - 09:26 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 15 November 2019 - 09:20 PM, said:

View PostItw誑 Nom, on 15 November 2019 - 09:17 PM, said:

View PostItw誑 Nom, on 15 November 2019 - 09:15 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 15 November 2019 - 09:11 PM, said:

Toaster, I think you should put your votes on Sakulag for Core Mining so that those Nekro on your doorstep don't gain a bit more tech.


And give it to the race that is the runner up in points instead :p


While me and D'rek are still sitting at 1VP


Uh, you got to think about the big picture, long term? What if this is the catalyst that spurs you and D'rek to victory? It probably is!


Classic scum scrambling

When does the lynch voting phase come up
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Posted 15 November 2019 - 09:29 PM

Anyhoo, looks like the vote counts are:

Twelve - 16
IH - 16
Nom - 12
Morgoth - 10
Khell - 9
Toaster - 8
Tatts - 8
Jazz - 3


So even if Nom and IH both fully voted for Daemon it could be beaten by the rest, so calling in Khell and Tatts' votes makes sense.

Oh, and FYI Nom, rest assured my first move departure from Naalu/Creuss space isn't to take over Mansa III ^_^

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 15 November 2019 - 09:32 PM

View PostD, on 15 November 2019 - 09:29 PM, said:

Anyhoo, looks like the vote counts are:

Twelve - 16
IH - 16
Nom - 12
Morgoth - 10
Khell - 9
Toaster - 8
Tatts - 8
Jazz - 3


So even if Nom and IH both fully voted for Daemon it could be beaten by the rest, so calling in Khell and Tatts' votes makes sense.

Oh, and FYI Nom, rest assured my first move departure from Naalu/Creuss space isn't to take over Mansa III ^_^


Yep it's to take over daemon ;)
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Posted 15 November 2019 - 09:34 PM

I was going to ask how many votes Tatts has to give Nom - but knowing Tatts, it's all of them, isn't it? :)
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Posted 15 November 2019 - 09:36 PM

Let's do this:

If IH and Nom (and 6 of mine and all of Tatts' votes) go on Daemon, then:

Everyone else votes on Sakulag.

And then we'll be tied and let the impartial Speaker decide!
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Posted 15 November 2019 - 09:37 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 15 November 2019 - 09:32 PM, said:

View PostD, on 15 November 2019 - 09:29 PM, said:

Anyhoo, looks like the vote counts are:

Twelve - 16
IH - 16
Nom - 12
Morgoth - 10
Khell - 9
Toaster - 8
Tatts - 8
Jazz - 3


So even if Nom and IH both fully voted for Daemon it could be beaten by the rest, so calling in Khell and Tatts' votes makes sense.

Oh, and FYI Nom, rest assured my first move departure from Naalu/Creuss space isn't to take over Mansa III ^_^


Yep it's to take over daemon ;)


Haha, not that either! Not to mention Nullification Field!

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 15 November 2019 - 09:38 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 15 November 2019 - 09:36 PM, said:

Let's do this:

If IH and Nom (and 6 of mine and all of Tatts' votes) go on Daemon, then:

Everyone else votes on Sakulag.

And then we'll be tied and let the impartial Speaker decide!


The other agenda would be 0-tied between all planets and you'd get to decide that one, too!

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 15 November 2019 - 09:39 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 15 November 2019 - 09:36 PM, said:

Let's do this:

If IH and Nom (and 6 of mine and all of Tatts' votes) go on Daemon, then:

Everyone else votes on Sakulag.

And then we'll be tied and let the impartial Speaker decide!


You have 4 VP

Me and D'rek each have 1

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Posted 15 November 2019 - 09:42 PM

View PostItw誑 Nom, on 15 November 2019 - 09:39 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 15 November 2019 - 09:36 PM, said:

Let's do this:

If IH and Nom (and 6 of mine and all of Tatts' votes) go on Daemon, then:

Everyone else votes on Sakulag.

And then we'll be tied and let the impartial Speaker decide!


You have 4 VP

Me and D'rek each have 1



VP, you're always going on about VP, you're obsessed with it, almost like you're trying to get it all for yourself. Me, I don't even know what it is - Vegetable Patties?
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Posted 15 November 2019 - 09:42 PM

True, nullification field is such a good ace to have in your pocket, it deters so much just by it's presence.
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Posted 15 November 2019 - 09:55 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 15 November 2019 - 09:07 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 15 November 2019 - 08:55 PM, said:

Well, I値l vote for something else given a proper incentive.


Sure, I'll try and buy your votes. Same offer I made to Twelve (racial or early Leadership play).


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Posted 15 November 2019 - 10:27 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 15 November 2019 - 09:55 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 15 November 2019 - 09:07 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 15 November 2019 - 08:55 PM, said:

Well, I値l vote for something else given a proper incentive.


Sure, I'll try and buy your votes. Same offer I made to Twelve (racial or early Leadership play).


I値l do it for your racial


Well, right now, unless everybody who's not IH or Nom or Tatts votes with all their votes for my choice of Sakulag, then I can't win, and I'm not going to bribe everybody.

But I'll tell you what, if you still put your votes on my choice, and I happen to win, then I'll pass my racial over (on condition that you use it when I have zero TGs).
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Posted 15 November 2019 - 10:50 PM

View Posttwelve, on 15 November 2019 - 03:30 PM, said:

View PostD, on 15 November 2019 - 02:26 PM, said:

1T | 5F | 0S Twelve, really? You'd better have a Summit card ^_^

Nope. Dont even know what the summit card does. Risky yes but I'm willing to roll some dice to protect my investment.


Your "investment" has paid off plenty already. You have 2 imperial points. You might not realize it but that's a huge deal. It means everybody else has to score 12 'real' points to win, and you only need 10. Trying to hang onto Mecatol for longer is greedy and will hurt you more than it will help you.

You're also currently blocked from reaching Mecatol. Do you really think your cruisers and the little infantry they can bring can beat my fleet + dudes after I land on the planet?

I'm still on 3 influence. I respect the Parley play, it will fetch you some nice additional CT's next round. But if you insist on contesting me on Mecatol we will just be dragged into a war that will hurt both of us. I'm getting rather desperate for tokens and Mecatol is the best way to solve it for me. So I will fight you on this.

@khell I'll support Sakulag for Core Mining. Though my vote count is tiny, it might make a difference. I hope you remember this and return the favor in the future.
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Posted 15 November 2019 - 10:52 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 15 November 2019 - 10:27 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 15 November 2019 - 09:55 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 15 November 2019 - 09:07 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 15 November 2019 - 08:55 PM, said:

Well, I値l vote for something else given a proper incentive.


Sure, I'll try and buy your votes. Same offer I made to Twelve (racial or early Leadership play).


I値l do it for your racial


Well, right now, unless everybody who's not IH or Nom or Tatts votes with all their votes for my choice of Sakulag, then I can't win, and I'm not going to bribe everybody.

But I'll tell you what, if you still put your votes on my choice, and I happen to win, then I'll pass my racial over (on condition that you use it when I have zero TGs).



Not that it'll ever happen (waaaay too easy for 1 person to decide to put just 1 of their votes on Research Team instead and win it), but on the miniscule hypothetical chance that people actually thinkg of going along with this... I'll point out that Letnev is the absolute worst possible choice of giving a red tech skip to here. If Khell gets to give one of his own planets Research Team it'll be straight to Duranium Armour + Non-Euclidean Shield Dreadnoughts/Flagships/War Suns for him.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 15 November 2019 - 10:53 PM

View PostJazzarm, on 15 November 2019 - 10:50 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 15 November 2019 - 03:30 PM, said:

View PostD, on 15 November 2019 - 02:26 PM, said:

1T | 5F | 0S Twelve, really? You'd better have a Summit card ^_^

Nope. Dont even know what the summit card does. Risky yes but I'm willing to roll some dice to protect my investment.


Your "investment" has paid off plenty already. You have 2 imperial points. You might not realize it but that's a huge deal. It means everybody else has to score 12 'real' points to win, and you only need 10. Trying to hang onto Mecatol for longer is greedy and will hurt you more than it will help you.

You're also currently blocked from reaching Mecatol. Do you really think your cruisers and the little infantry they can bring can beat my fleet + dudes after I land on the planet?

I'm still on 3 influence. I respect the Parley play, it will fetch you some nice additional CT's next round. But if you insist on contesting me on Mecatol we will just be dragged into a war that will hurt both of us. I'm getting rather desperate for tokens and Mecatol is the best way to solve it for me. So I will fight you on this.

@khell I'll support Sakulag for Core Mining. Though my vote count is tiny, it might make a difference. I hope you remember this and return the favor in the future.



Thanks man. I will certainly remember it.

So if we can get Toaster on board now...
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