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#721 User is offline   Galactic Council 

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Posted 30 October 2019 - 01:39 PM

So far I have votes from 4 of 8 players.

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Posted 30 October 2019 - 01:40 PM

I have already stated that I will, though I’m happy to reafirm. Though I don’t trudt my votes alone to be good enough.
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Posted 30 October 2019 - 01:47 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 30 October 2019 - 01:40 PM, said:

I have already stated that I will, though I’m happy to reafirm. Though I don’t trudt my votes alone to be good enough.


Excellent. Also, I did see your offer of your racial PN to me, sorry for not responding earlier. I may very well take you up on that at some point, though at this moment I'm happy to be ensconced in my little corner plotting galactic domination enjoying this space Golden Period of our democratic space nation.
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Posted 30 October 2019 - 03:12 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 30 October 2019 - 01:40 PM, said:

I have already stated that I will, though I'm happy to reafirm. Though I don't trudt my votes alone to be good enough.


@morgoth I have asked you some questions before let me know what you think
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Posted 30 October 2019 - 04:39 PM

View PostD, on 30 October 2019 - 04:05 AM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 30 October 2019 - 03:06 AM, said:

View PostD, on 30 October 2019 - 01:15 AM, said:

You're suggesting he do all that not for you to move the target to another player, but just to move it to Nestphar instead? Seems like it'd be a lot easier for Twelve to just take the hit on MR and ask me to move so he can send more infantry to it...

This is more likely what I am going to do. As once my dudes on Rex are dead I have only nevant as the path and you are clogging the works.


Or I declog the beta wormhole and you go through that and Silvano.

Well with the current new objective nevant is the preferred choice now.
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Posted 30 October 2019 - 04:42 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 30 October 2019 - 07:25 AM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 30 October 2019 - 03:04 AM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 30 October 2019 - 12:52 AM, said:

Twelve now riders and such have been played, if you want me to throw my votes onto another planet we could reach a deal if you agree not to build, move or place any additional infantry on rex (if the number of infantry you have is reduced you can replace them), and you give me your stymie card. I promise not to use or trade it unless you build more infantry on rex or attack me. You also give me a share of any tg you gain from losing infantry on presumably nestphar?

You keep rex, i keep good relations with my neighbour and we both gain tg. I'm pretty sure you'd keep your word regardless but me holding stymie should reassure everyone.

Would this be of interest?

This is unexpected. I am definitely interested in working out a deal. My stymie card would only be given out if none of my planets are selected. I think is possible to word a deal to make it binding. I have zero interest in losing any of my infantry. This though sounds like it might be a sticking point as you want trade goods from me losing infantry. I also want a higher ceiling on allowable infantry on Rex. 4 is too few and 8 is probably too high. 6 sounds about right. My racial out in the wind is a huge risk to my game so I'm not much interested in sweetening the pot much beyond that.

I'm not interested In fighting you on territory. We've worked out planet borrowing in the past. There is a hazardous planet I would like to borrow next round as well but we can work that out later once we finish our current negotiations.


Me having your racial is of very little benefit to me, though admittedly a risk to you, so if you want my votes, I'd want further compensating, maybe your trade PN?

Re rex and your infantry ceiling, 6 seems high, but I'd bow to others opinions here.

Planet borrowing we could work out I'm sure.

I'm thinking I'll have to pass. I have already resigned myself to losing infantry on Rex. Even combining out votes I doubt it would still stand up.
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Posted 30 October 2019 - 04:56 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 30 October 2019 - 10:42 AM, said:

With regard to the first agenda, having mulled it over, I think I would prefer a Stymie being played if twelve is still offering it to the agenda being passed on MR. Why? Because whoever goes on to invade MR will then have to put some effort into it, making their own subsequent hold on MR possibly more tenuous in turn.

Basically, I'm voting for instabilty and chaos :)

You are asking IH for votes for the action card agenda. How are you going to get that and help swing the vote away from Rex? Handing out stymie is about the extent of what I'm willing to pay as it's a huge risk to have out. If you have a plan then Im listening.
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Posted 30 October 2019 - 04:58 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 30 October 2019 - 10:47 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 30 October 2019 - 10:42 AM, said:

With regard to the first agenda, having mulled it over, I think I would prefer a Stymie being played if twelve is still offering it to the agenda being passed on MR. Why? Because whoever goes on to invade MR will then have to put some effort into it, making their own subsequent hold on MR possibly more tenuous in turn.

Basically, I'm voting for instabilty and chaos :)


Whomever takes MR will have to hold it with whatever they brought, which seems unlikely for long. Twelve on the other hand can build more and more, and considering how willing he was to immediately break agreements when it suited him last game, I'm highly doubtful he'd stick to an agreement that limited his ability to control MR this time around.

I had zero intention of breaking my deal with you that game until it became obvious you were able to win if I didnt break it. You would have done the same.
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Posted 30 October 2019 - 05:09 PM

Up to 6 of 8 players' votes in!
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Posted 30 October 2019 - 05:13 PM

View Posttwelve, on 30 October 2019 - 04:56 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 30 October 2019 - 10:42 AM, said:

With regard to the first agenda, having mulled it over, I think I would prefer a Stymie being played if twelve is still offering it to the agenda being passed on MR. Why? Because whoever goes on to invade MR will then have to put some effort into it, making their own subsequent hold on MR possibly more tenuous in turn.

Basically, I'm voting for instabilty and chaos :)

You are asking IH for votes for the action card agenda. How are you going to get that and help swing the vote away from Rex? Handing out stymie is about the extent of what I'm willing to pay as it's a huge risk to have out. If you have a plan then Im listening.



Oh I'm not, I was just musing.
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Posted 30 October 2019 - 05:18 PM

@ Tatts: If Leadership is going to make its way to you, as seems to be the case currently, then why are you taking the Naalu token?
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Posted 30 October 2019 - 05:23 PM

View Posttwelve, on 30 October 2019 - 04:39 PM, said:

View PostD, on 30 October 2019 - 04:05 AM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 30 October 2019 - 03:06 AM, said:

View PostD, on 30 October 2019 - 01:15 AM, said:

You're suggesting he do all that not for you to move the target to another player, but just to move it to Nestphar instead? Seems like it'd be a lot easier for Twelve to just take the hit on MR and ask me to move so he can send more infantry to it...

This is more likely what I am going to do. As once my dudes on Rex are dead I have only nevant as the path and you are clogging the works.


Or I declog the beta wormhole and you go through that and Silvano.

Well with the current new objective nevant is the preferred choice now.


I doubt IH is gonna give you the 4th hazardous planet willingly though

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Posted 30 October 2019 - 05:38 PM

Twelve in that case can I call your votes in for me on the action card agenda. I'd appreciate any additional votes for me if you are resigned to losing. Shame I'd hoped we could come to some sort of deal to let you keep rex, but hey extra TG can't be sniffed at! Can you confirm you are sending 6 votes my way?

Jazz are we still on for our deal? 3 votes on rex for 4 on me for the action card agenda?

Khell sorry but the 3 planet system is just too much of a stretch to reach for me so I'm going to have to contest the action card agenda with you, i think you are struggling for the votes to obtain it anyway.
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Posted 30 October 2019 - 05:41 PM

View PostD, on 30 October 2019 - 05:23 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 30 October 2019 - 04:39 PM, said:

View PostD, on 30 October 2019 - 04:05 AM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 30 October 2019 - 03:06 AM, said:

View PostD, on 30 October 2019 - 01:15 AM, said:

You're suggesting he do all that not for you to move the target to another player, but just to move it to Nestphar instead? Seems like it'd be a lot easier for Twelve to just take the hit on MR and ask me to move so he can send more infantry to it...

This is more likely what I am going to do. As once my dudes on Rex are dead I have only nevant as the path and you are clogging the works.


Or I declog the beta wormhole and you go through that and Silvano.

Well with the current new objective nevant is the preferred choice now.


I doubt IH is gonna give you the 4th hazardous planet willingly though


It's not a planet I'm entirely comfortable vacating, but twelve probably has enough TG after this agenda to make it worth my while.
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Posted 30 October 2019 - 05:44 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 30 October 2019 - 05:38 PM, said:

Twelve in that case can I call your votes in for me on the action card agenda. I'd appreciate any additional votes for me if you are resigned to losing. Shame I'd hoped we could come to some sort of deal to let you keep rex, but hey extra TG can't be sniffed at! Can you confirm you are sending 6 votes my way?

Jazz are we still on for our deal? 3 votes on rex for 4 on me for the action card agenda?

Khell sorry but the 3 planet system is just too much of a stretch to reach for me so I'm going to have to contest the action card agenda with you, i think you are struggling for the votes to obtain it anyway.


Well I meant I was going to let you have that system whenever, not just not contest it with you this next round, but suit yourself.
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Posted 30 October 2019 - 05:46 PM

PUT AN END TO YIN TERRORISM!

STOP THE NEKRO GALACTIC THREAT!

A VOTE FOR THE LETNEV IS A VOTE FOR LAW AND ORDER!
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Posted 30 October 2019 - 05:53 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 30 October 2019 - 05:44 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 30 October 2019 - 05:38 PM, said:

Twelve in that case can I call your votes in for me on the action card agenda. I'd appreciate any additional votes for me if you are resigned to losing. Shame I'd hoped we could come to some sort of deal to let you keep rex, but hey extra TG can't be sniffed at! Can you confirm you are sending 6 votes my way?

Jazz are we still on for our deal? 3 votes on rex for 4 on me for the action card agenda?

Khell sorry but the 3 planet system is just too much of a stretch to reach for me so I'm going to have to contest the action card agenda with you, i think you are struggling for the votes to obtain it anyway.


Well I meant I was going to let you have that system whenever, not just not contest it with you this next round, but suit yourself.


Oh that is significantly more generous than I thought.

Given the current discussion on votes, all of my votes would probably get you the agenda.

Would that be sufficient for you to cede me that system, agree our current boundaries (unless negotiated) and swap ceasefires?
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Posted 30 October 2019 - 06:34 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 30 October 2019 - 05:53 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 30 October 2019 - 05:44 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 30 October 2019 - 05:38 PM, said:

Twelve in that case can I call your votes in for me on the action card agenda. I'd appreciate any additional votes for me if you are resigned to losing. Shame I'd hoped we could come to some sort of deal to let you keep rex, but hey extra TG can't be sniffed at! Can you confirm you are sending 6 votes my way?

Jazz are we still on for our deal? 3 votes on rex for 4 on me for the action card agenda?

Khell sorry but the 3 planet system is just too much of a stretch to reach for me so I'm going to have to contest the action card agenda with you, i think you are struggling for the votes to obtain it anyway.


Well I meant I was going to let you have that system whenever, not just not contest it with you this next round, but suit yourself.


Oh that is significantly more generous than I thought.

Given the current discussion on votes, all of my votes would probably get you the agenda.

Would that be sufficient for you to cede me that system, agree our current boundaries (unless negotiated) and swap ceasefires?


Yes, but again, I wouldn't swap ceasefires till I know that the agenda has passed my way (I mean, I probably would anyway eventually, but for the purposes of ensuring this deal goes through, I would like to swap ceasefires once we connect rather than in this phase).
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Posted 30 October 2019 - 07:06 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 30 October 2019 - 05:38 PM, said:



Jazz are we still on for our deal? 3 votes on rex for 4 on me for the action card agenda?



I've already sent in my votes to that effect. If you're gonna sell votes you'd probably wanna give me some time to switch to the new recipient, instead.
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Posted 30 October 2019 - 09:26 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 30 October 2019 - 05:38 PM, said:

Twelve in that case can I call your votes in for me on the action card agenda. I'd appreciate any additional votes for me if you are resigned to losing. Shame I'd hoped we could come to some sort of deal to let you keep rex, but hey extra TG can't be sniffed at! Can you confirm you are sending 6 votes my way?

Jazz are we still on for our deal? 3 votes on rex for 4 on me for the action card agenda?

Khell sorry but the 3 planet system is just too much of a stretch to reach for me so I'm going to have to contest the action card agenda with you, i think you are struggling for the votes to obtain it anyway.


I was probably the first set of votes received with the 6 already assigned to you.
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